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I hope my EU will take actions for those decisions ❤️🙏🏼
That’s NOT how the EU’s anti competition laws and consumer protection laws work.

If Apple makes claims that it is, in fact, faster than it is. And specifically the memory. Then sure. But A that will never ever happen. And B, Apple would get to change some words to reflect reality. And that’s it.
 
I'm just happy to see that people are finally waking up to Cook's Apple. Sure, it is nice as a shareholder for Apple to be the number one company in the world. However, I would gladly trade some of my own profits to go back to the good old days of true innovation, magical keynotes, and less buggy OS's.
 
I take thousands of photos and videos and I’ve still yet to even come close to filling a 256gb phone. What are you all doing that you need that much space?

4K video? Pro Res video? Spatial? Keeping everything ever shot on the phone? a big music collection ripped to Music? Not paying for iCloud to offload some of it? Not paying rent for access to music in the cloud but synching it instead? Synching a number of ripped movies to watch while traveling? Too much unprocessed email? Too many text message conversations never closed but just accumulating & accumulating and thus loaded up with endless amount of cat videos? Etc.

I very carefully manage everything on my 256GB iDevice, including offloading regularly, etc and have creeped up to about 65% full...

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I pay nothing extra for iCloud or to rent streams of stuff like music. It is not hard to fill 512GB or even 1TB depending on how people use their device.
 
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That’s NOT how the EU’s anti competition laws and consumer protection laws work.

If Apple makes claims that it is, in fact, faster than it is. And specifically the memory. Then sure. But A that will never ever happen. And B, Apple would get to change some words to reflect reality. And that’s it.
The EU is a Schrodinger entity, it is an overreaching irrelevant institution but also the solution to all consumers problems.
 
Just what we need, more read / write speed 'woe is me' debates, as if the Mac threads are lacking in that department. lol.

All that could go away if Apple focused on consumer benefits in such things vs. shareholder ROI maximization. IMO: in the last 5-8 years, too much of the latter at the expense of the former. This- if true- smells like more of the same.
 
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My question, what functions/features does the iPhone and iOS do where this would even be noticeable?

Would the .000000000000001 slowdown in posting to instagram or sending a text be that noticeable?
 
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All that could go away if Apple focused on consumer benefits in such things vs. shareholder ROI maximization. IMO: too much of the latter at the expense of the former. This- if true- smells like more of the same.
Cost of device isn't a consumer benefit? We certainly see enough debates around here about the cost of Apple devices.

Same with size of device. As I read the article, it's not just talking about cost, but also size of the device.
 
Wow, Apple is really scraping the barrel here. I wouldn’t trust important data to QLC without frequent backups. Which becomes more tedious at terabyte sizes, especially with slower storage.

I think it’s kind of crazy to have this much storage in a phone at all. And as you say, the more storage the faster it better be if you intend to use it all.

If you need more than half a gig I think external storage is the way to go. Apple clearly takes this philosophy with their Macs, I don’t see why the phone needs so much storage, especially if the tech isn’t there yet to do it well.
 
That’s NOT how the EU’s anti competition laws and consumer protection laws work.

If Apple makes claims that it is, in fact, faster than it is. And specifically the memory. Then sure. But A that will never ever happen. And B, Apple would get to change some words to reflect reality. And that’s it.
Ah...but as I read most EU supporters on these threads, that seems to be a large part of what they want the EU to do relative to Apple and other big tech.
 
Spatial videos?
Yeah, it's weird how so many comments here end the narrative today.

The question isn't why do I need this much storage today, but why does Apple want me to have more storage in the future? (The future, Conan?)

There are better answers than, "Because it sells and we can cash in on insane margins," though that's probably 80% of it, sadly. Regardless, that's not the only answer, and the answer is probably in the future.

But as long as they offer a <= 512 gig solution, why do those saying they don't need more storage care? That is, it's like a Sprinter van, you should really only be buying [here giant memory phones] if you know you need it for a specific purpose.
 
Cost of device isn't a consumer benefit? We certainly see enough debates around here about the cost of Apple devices.

Same with size of device. As I read the article, it's not just talking about cost, but also size of the device.

This rumor doesn't say anything at all about the price of iPhone having to go higher if Apple keeps using the SAME, faster storage than opting for this rumored slower storage.

This card is played to make it sound like keeping it the same means the price must go up. What will go up if this is true is margin.

And Apple may opt to raise the price anyway to further enhance that margin... which is as plausible as the idea that Apple would otherwise have to raise the price without slowing down the storage.

Want to somewhat manage customer frustration with an OPTIONAL decision like this? Pass through the savings to the customers with LOWERED iPhone pricing. That too is just as plausible as the idea that pricing must go up without reducing the underlying cost of storage as rumored here.

But that's not the proposition in this rumor: it appears to be hold the price at the SAME but slow the storage because it's cheaper for Apple. Customers thinking as customers should never applaud margin expansion. That's a shareholder mentality. Customers should want as much value for their money as they can get.
 
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4K video? Pro Res video? Spatial? Keeping everything ever shot on the phone? a big music collection ripped to Music? Not paying for iCloud to offload some of it? Not paying rent for access to music in the cloud but synching it instead? Synching a number of ripped movies to watch while traveling? Too much unprocessed email? Too many text message conversations never closed but just accumulating & accumulating and thus loaded up with endless amount of cat videos? Etc.

I very carefully manage everything on my 256GB iDevice, including offloading regularly, etc and have creeped up to about 65% full. I pay nothing extra for iCloud or to rent streams of stuff like music. It is not hard to fill 512GB or even 1TB depending on how people use their device.
without getting into all that fake stuff that I do not care about because I don't buy into the marketing hype, I can tell you that just a handful of games will easily fill my 64GB iphone xs. My 16GB iPad Air 2 is practically unusable; it barely has enough space to run Netflix thanks to OS bloat.

1TB is great if someone keeps their device for several years before swapping, and doesn't mind being hopelessly addicted to their device and enjoying running the battery down in a matter of hours.

For me, 64GB actually helps me to be on my phone less.
 
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I take thousands of photos and videos and I’ve still yet to even come close to filling a 256gb phone. What are you all doing that you need that much space?
13 Pro here, 1.02TB. 450 Tunes, 391 Videos, 9,049 Photos, 116 apps, 833.23 GB free

Why do I have a 1TB phone? Company buys them, Boss wants a 1TB because they fill their phones with crap from 10 grandchildren, photos, photos, photos, vids, vids, vids.

So *I* must need a 1TB too! meh, ok, when I toss this for the next itineration I'll get another 1TB phone I'm sure.
 
To those talking about “cost cutting”…do you guys actually understand technology at all? There’s trade offs to using any technology over another.

In this case higher density means more storage, but at the cost of *some* performance.

Maybe invent your own method of no tradeoffs that a multibillion dollar *industry* hasn’t figure out?

This is the reality of where NAND manufacturing is today, it has nothing to do with cost or even Apple’s decisions.
 
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