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It’s top tier un-novation. They just replicate concepts from other competitors who brought out a low-quality product (foldable phone that breaks etc.) and appealed to a customer base with it. It’s for the sake of it.
Oaky, but Apple doesn’t do “for the sake of it.”
 
Would be huge for artists/designers. I’m also sure they’re banking on new use cases yet to be discovered.
Probably true. If Kuo said it, I believe it, but this could be cannibalizing their other MacBooks. I guess we’ll see.
 
"Kuo estimated that foldable MacBook shipments will exceed one million units in 2026, suggesting that the device will launch in around two years from now."

He's a comedian now.
 
This reads a bit like a classic Mac to bondi-blue iMac revival of desktop portability. I could be sold on a foldable device if it could go in full orientation of 90 to greater than 270 degrees. There are times it would be nice to fold back the screen to 1/2 size at greater than 270 degrees (blackout the other half). But also be able to open it full screen at 180 degrees for normal horizontal desktop use. Then perhaps fold it to less than 180 to have a table screen of sorts, with a traditional orientation monitor. It can be nice to look straight down for reference files between screen and paper; I could make screen and screen work.

However, I imagine this Venn diagram has a sizable overlap with AVP owners who could otherwise be sold on this, but have all the monitors they need. But I imagine there are many who wouldn’t be ready for AVP but would be ready for a folding Mac.

Again, somewhat preaching to the choir here. All my life, I have worn watches... but still haven't embraced Apple Watch. I was even given one for Christmas but gave it back, knowing I wouldn't wear it. I prefer traditional watches. […]
Also… I absolutely adore gaming how this gift rejection may have played out… did you say “hrmm, Apple Watch… it’s like you don’t even know me.”
 
I'm holding out for the Neato Inflato 42” model!

Compressed (Apple crushes huge Macs into a pocketable one and resurrects a recent advert), it can be an 11” MBA, a 12” MacBook (finally running Apple Silicon), 13”, etc. all the way up to a wall-sized 42” model!

It can even be hung there or spread out on a dining room table for board games!

Optional desk stand for only $6,000.
 
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Also… I absolutely adore gaming how this gift rejection may have played out… did you say “hrmm, Apple Watch… it’s like you don’t even know me.”

I’m a watch enthusiast and I doubt there’s any other way it could play out. Everyone I know understands that buying me a watch, especially a tech watch, would be a very poor idea. Most watch collectors are the same. They aren’t timid about their hobby.
 
Until foldable is 100% crease free, hard pass. Can't say I really would want it anyway.

I wonder how/where this crease will be? When considering a foldable iPhone/iPad it is very easy to imagine using the "half" device and then unfolding it for basically a 2x size device, how does one fold a laptop?
See Lenovo Laptop ThinkPad X1 Fold.

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Also… I absolutely adore gaming how this gift rejection may have played out… did you say “hrmm, Apple Watch… it’s like you don’t even know me.”

Nothing that bad. It was a "bonus" gift that could readily go to someone else who would be more interested in it. I happen to be a rare Apple guy who doesn't own iPhone. Instead, I let cellular iPad mini 6 with buds & VOIP app cover my mobile telephony needs (just fine). Since Watch is basically married to iPhone and I don't have one, I suggested giving it to someone else with an iPhone.

If I had wanted to adopt Watch over my preference (traditional watches), I would have also had to adopt iPhone over what I do now and have done since the first cellular iPad Mini. I had no such interest in adding an iPhone (too), so it was best to just let it become a gift for someone else.
 
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I want 20" MacBook Pro but I don't want it to be foldable.
Yes yes yes.

Well actually, I want a 16-18" MBA with a base M-series chip, but with ability to expand to more than 24GB RAM and 2TB SSD, and with the full airline allowed battery capacity.

I don't need the massive overkill power of a bazillion GPU cores, nor the fan, thickness, and weight, required for cooling such a beast, nor the price tag for such unwanted overkill.

And as much as it is "nice" to have all the extra ports, I've never actually used the extra ports that my MBP has over an MBA.

Come on Apple, wanting a bigger screen does not equate to wanting a mega powerful graphics processing machine.
 
Nothing that bad. It was a "bonus" gift that could readily go to someone else who would be more interested in it. I happen to be a rare Apple guy who doesn't own iPhone. Instead, I let cellular iPad mini 6 with buds & VOIP app cover my mobile telephony needs (just fine). Since Watch is basically married to iPhone and I don't have one, I suggested giving it to someone else with an iPhone.

If I had wanted to adopt Watch over my preference (traditional watches), I would have also had to adopt iPhone over what I do now and have done since the first cellular iPad Mini. I had no such interest in adding an iPhone (too), so it was best to just let it become a gift for someone else.
That’s both disappointing and a relief. I was hoping for a drama filled tale, and also hoping no one’s feelings got hurt.

Your VOIP is also a really good idea… with an unlimited data connection, the cellular portion is easily replaced with tons of services even google voice… even if it doesn’t save money, you’re untethered from your service provider and can switch any time you want. That’s quite the cheat-code you discovered.
 
That’s both disappointing and a relief. I was hoping for a drama filled tale, and also hoping no one’s feelings got hurt.

Your VOIP is also a really good idea… with an unlimited data connection, the cellular portion is easily replaced with tons of services even google voice… even if it doesn’t save money, you’re untethered from your service provider and can switch any time you want. That’s quite the cheat-code you discovered.

Yes, nobody's feelings were hurt. Gifts that were intended for me were received, so nobody felt like I got cheated out of a gift either. It was just a bonus that wouldn't really work for me. I didn't want to take it and re-gift it, nor sell it, etc when others there could readily enjoy it as it is intended to be enjoyed.

As to the iPad Mini as phone, I have ZERO complaints. It "just works", 5G data plan is dirt cheap ($25/year) and iPads seems to have longer (use) legs than iPhones, so my last jump was Mini 2 to Mini 6. I expect my next jump (and thus purchase) is Mini 9 or 10 in about 2029-30. Thus, service costs nearly nothing and hardware cost is much less frequent.

IMO: all other apps- including Messages- generally works BETTER on a bigger screen. However, since a few things have tech "marital" dependencies on iPhone, I don't have those things: Watch being one of them. CarPlay is another (though iPad mini easily links to my stock system in car for calls, music, turn-by-turn directions, etc).
 
Im guessing this will be a improved version of something like Lenovo X1 fold. You can use like a regular clamshell notebook with either virtual keyboard or overlay physical keyboard (like the HP Spectre foldable). The 2nd use case is unfolded for the full 20" experience with external mouse keyboard. As a traveling consultant I would welcome the extra screen real estate and ability to use like a desktop when stationary and as a more traditional clamshell laptop when traveling.
Will be interesting to see how much Apple can improve on the weight, thickness, crease, etc. for the existing HP and Lenovo folding notebooks.
The big news here of course is that Apple is FINALLY trying a different form factor other than the traditional clamshell, no touch design that they have had for decades.
So, basically a 20" iPad with macOS???

I mean, why wait for a foldable screen form factor, when you could already give us macOS with iPads, and Macs with a touch screen?
 
That would be the good news here, no question.

I'd love to get my Apple desktop OS usage down to one single 11" iPad Pro (or thereabouts on size)
Portable and full blown Mac when docked = perfection!
Good news maybe.

Or it could mean the death of a properly usable macOS. The termination of the terminal? The death of "side loading" on a Mac?
 
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Yes, time for the return of Lapzilla. :)

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Ha ha. I used to have a 17" MBP back the day before they killed it off. I had zero problems with the portability of that beast, even though MBP's were much thicker and heavier back then. I had to go back to 15", sigh. Now we are back to 16.2". Bring on the bigger stuff. I'd buy a 17" MBA/MBP in a heartbeat.
 
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I handle it fine. But I wasn’t wrong in this case.
On this particular point, you could not be more wrong. But it stems from this centralized thinking that can’t comprehend reality where the Mac and macOS exist and are separate from and not in competition with or on the verge of being replaced by iPad or iPadOS. This is reality. This is fact. And some people just can‘t accept it. That’s why you’re wrong. Apple has done nothing to “move away” from macOS, because Apple has never tried to get average users to use macOS, at least not for the last 20 years or so. They make OTHER things for the wide market. That isn’t a move away from macOS for the people who will always need macOS. It is move INTO other things that also make money, by selling them to other people that would never in a million years buy a phone or a tablet with macOS on it.
 
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On this particular point, you could not be more wrong. But it stems from this centralized thinking that can’t comprehend reality where the Mac and macOS exist and are separate from and not in competition with or on the verge of being replaced by iPad or iPadOS. This is reality. This is fact. And some people just can‘t accept it. That’s why you’re wrong. Apple has done nothing to “move away” from macOS, because Apple has never tried to get average users to use macOS, at least not for the last 20 years or so. They make OTHER things for the wide market. That isn’t a move away from macOS for the people who will always need macOS. It is move INTO other things that also make money, by selling them to other people that would never in a million years buy a phone or a tablet with macOS on it.

I’m not wrong. Apple makes more money on iOS based hardware. The locked down ecosystem is their ideal. MacOS hasn’t been a top priority for Apple for years. Apple isn’t really a computer company any more so much as it is a consumer electronics company. They still make a range of Macs but that isn’t their core business. As I said, I’m sure Tim Cook and the rest of Apple leadership would love to supplant MacOS on laptops by replacing them with the rumored foldable device. Even the iMac seems likely to get a touch interface based on iOS eventually. I’m sure Apple would be happy to only be selling Mac Mini, Mac Studio and Mac Pro with MacOS. I’d suggest that you’re working conceptually with a version of Apple that ceased to exist about a decade ago.
 
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Looking forward to seeing Apple's first foldable device. Not happy with the rumoured pricing.
 
Will I need a 2nd or reverse mortgage for this? lol
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But on a serious note one area where Apple's chops are unmatched are in ID and ME... so given that if this/next generation screens provide the folding robustness I'd put money on a solid, uncompromising product execution from Apple (undoubtedly at an uncompromising price)
 
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I've actually seen this in public: walked into a local McDonalds one day and a guy has a 27" set up in a booth near a socket. The 27" was apparently his "mobile" Mac... or mobile McMac in that particular venue. ;)
Heck I was once on the train with an outlet and had the trash can Mac Pro running with a portable monitor (doing a very long build that took almost the entire ride in prep for a demo).
 
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