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Ant3000

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Not sure if anyone can help... Been running El Capitan for a while on my old Mac Pro 2.1. Only problem has been that I replaced the graphics card ages ago with a non-flashed card so have never had the boot screen. Decided to update the graphics card and bought a genuine Mac Nvidia Quadro 4000 and installed it but I still do not get the boot screen on either video port.

Any idea why?

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Don't you have to download the drivers for Nvidea cards? Not sure if this is the issue but I recall somewhere that Radeon drivers were included in the OS but not Nvidia.
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Hi. Stuck on grey screen. Trying to install El Capitan on my MacPro (originally 1.1, upgraded with 2x Xeons x5365 and flashed to 2.1), 12Gb RAM, GT 7300 graphic card, OS X 10.7.5. Downloaded latest El Cap from Apple store, pikified with pikify3.1v14, after reboot- grey screen. If reboot and manually select boot disc, computer freezes momentarily after pushing select button. SMC reset does not help. No warning lights on memory riser cards. Out of ideas...
I assume you do not have any 512mb or even 1gb RAM modules installed - these are know to cause issues.
 

rthpjm

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Hi. Stuck on grey screen. Trying to install El Capitan on my MacPro (originally 1.1, upgraded with 2x Xeons x5365 and flashed to 2.1), 12Gb RAM, GT 7300 graphic card, OS X 10.7.5. Downloaded latest El Cap from Apple store, pikified with pikify3.1v14, after reboot- grey screen. If reboot and manually select boot disc, computer freezes momentarily after pushing select button. SMC reset does not help. No warning lights on memory riser cards. Out of ideas...
Hello ytoze

Please try a verbose boot. When you hear the chime hold down the APPLE and V keys. You should see the screen clear to black, and then text printed showing the progress. It should provide some insight...

If you can boot from another Volume, take a look at the response I gave to user @TT01 at post #3326

You could try to boot from the Recovery HD if you used Pikify to build your El Capitan volume.
 
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ytoze

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May 26, 2017
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Thank you for suggestions Ant3000 and rthpjm. Just an update- It lookes like GT 7300 graphic card was a problem. Installed PC version of GTS 450 in PCIe slot 2 and could finally see apple boot logo and progress bar for some seconds, but then again got just grey screen. Then tried to play with DVI to VGA adapter, connecting it to DVI outputs of GT 7300 or GTS 450 and could see signal from one of DVI outputs on GT 7300- El Capitan was waiting for me to install :). Inserting GT 450 in PCIe slot 1 instead of 2 also solved the problem- got correct signal to monitor without DVI to VGA adapter.
 

rthpjm

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Thank you for suggestions Ant3000 and rthpjm. Just an update- It lookes like GT 7300 graphic card was a problem. Installed PC version of GTS 450 in PCIe slot 2 and could finally see apple boot logo and progress bar for some seconds, but then again got just grey screen. Then tried to play with DVI to VGA adapter, connecting it to DVI outputs of GT 7300 or GTS 450 and could see signal from one of DVI outputs on GT 7300- El Capitan was waiting for me to install :). Inserting GT 450 in PCIe slot 1 instead of 2 also solved the problem- got correct signal to monitor without DVI to VGA adapter.
Hello Ytoze,

I think I have seen this before. The system had booted correctly to the installer (running OS), but the chosen monitor for output is a connector that you did not have a physical attachment. So you were seeing a "second" monitor screen, but because of your physical connections you are seeing the grey background of the second monitor only.

Well done on figuring it out :)
 

me.home

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May 22, 2017
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Yesterday I installed 10.11 on my MacPro 2.1 coming from 10.7.5 to 10.10.5 thanks MacRumors forum!
I did all @rthpjm showed in his fine video, thank you for explaining it all so easy to understand.
It took about 2hrs. to make the installer on a small HD partition, install 10.11.0 then install the Boot64.v3.mpkg and start the updates until all is up to date.

I used version pikify v14 and Boot64.v3.mpkg and did all on the 10.10.5 on my MacPro2.1 (2x quad, 4x4GB, 1024MB ATI 4870 with bootlogo).

Now I'll test it a bit and then clone it to my SSD.

Edit: Do I need to do anything about SIP? It's activated...
 

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rthpjm

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Yesterday I installed 10.11 on my MacPro 2.1 coming from 10.7.5 to 10.10.5 thanks MacRumors forum!
I did all @rthpjm showed in his fine video, thank you for explaining it all so easy to understand.
It took about 2hrs. to make the installer on a small HD partition, install 10.11.0 then install the Boot64.v3.mpkg and start the updates until all is up to date.

I used version pikify v14 and Boot64.v3.mpkg and did all on the 10.10.5 on my MacPro2.1 (2x quad, 4x4GB, 1024MB ATI 4870 with bootlogo).

Now I'll test it a bit and then clone it to my SSD.

Edit: Do I need to do anything about SIP? It's activated...
Hello me.home

10.11.6 is probably the last "point" upgrade for El Capitan. There has been a couple of security updates since 10.11.6.

It appears that Apple has never (to date) released a new copy of their boot.efi file with security updates. New copies of Apple's boot.efi file have only ever been released with "point" updates (10.11.2, 10.11.4, 10.11.5).

The boot.efi file is the only community modified file that's important for MacPro owners. Boot64 and CapitanPikeFix are two utilities that watch the boot.efi files. If the Pike versions of boot.efi files are overwritten (by an Apple update for example), the utility puts the Pike copies back before the system is rebooted. This is how we can run the App Store updates and not worry about the need to check/replace the boot.efi files.
Of course, you can manually replace the boot.efi files when required.

As I point out in post #1391 (the Boot64 post), Apple would probably extend SIP to the point where Boot64 would no longer work with SIP enabled, (it will work with it disabled). 10.11.6 was that point. (It will work for previous versions of El Capitan, for those people who start building from a copy of El Capitan earlier than 10.11.5).

CapitanPikeFix was designed to work with SIP permanently disabled.
Boot64 was designed to work with SIP enabled.
Boot64 will work with SIP permanently disabled (there's little difference between Boot64 and CapitanPikeFix with SIP disabled).


So the answer to your question, isn't simple.
Do you need to do anything with SIP? Probably not.
Will some future update from Apple require you to do something with SIP? Maybe.

If in doubt, turn off SIP before you start.
Boot into the Recovery HD partition, use csrutil disable in a Terminal.
Reboot to usual partition, do whatever you are intending to do.
Turn SIP back on if you want to benefit from the extra level of protection....
 
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me.home

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May 22, 2017
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If in doubt, turn off SIP before you start.
Boot into the Recovery HD partition, use csrutil disable in a Terminal.
Reboot to usual partition, do whatever you are intending to do.
Turn SIP back on if you want to benefit from the extra level of protection....

thank you for the info !

I'll keep it on and did clone HD to SSD put in another 16GB all working so far fine!
 

wingjoey

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Dec 13, 2016
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Dear All
i have a macpro 1.1 and instaled Osx 10.11
Thx for all people help ^^
but I have a question about the bootcamp
is macpro 1.1 installed 10.11 is support bootcamp to install windows 10 64bit Version?
 

iron7267

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Jun 1, 2017
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This may be a repeat question but I could not find an answer after browsing a little bit. I have 1,1 that I was able to get El Capitan installed on, several times actually. My issue is that each time, all my usb ports quit working except the one my keyboard is plugged into. The two usb ports on the keyboard also continue to work. My airport card also seems to not be working. Everything works fine in Lion so I am not sure what is going on. Any thoughts?
 

rthpjm

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Jan 31, 2011
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This may be a repeat question but I could not find an answer after browsing a little bit. I have 1,1 that I was able to get El Capitan installed on, several times actually. My issue is that each time, all my usb ports quit working except the one my keyboard is plugged into. The two usb ports on the keyboard also continue to work. My airport card also seems to not be working. Everything works fine in Lion so I am not sure what is going on. Any thoughts?
Try an SMC reset.
Search this thread...
 

me.home

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May 22, 2017
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Well as mentioned before I'm running 10.11.6.

Now when I press ALT during startup I can not choose the installer partition and it's also not bootable in system startup device.
Do I need to run the script again (install all over) to have an emergency bootup installer or use bless ?
 

rthpjm

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Jan 31, 2011
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Well as mentioned before I'm running 10.11.6.

Now when I press ALT during startup I can not choose the installer partition and it's also not bootable in system startup device.
Do I need to run the script again (install all over) to have an emergency bootup installer or use bless ?

You do not need to keep an installer volume for emergencies. There is a Recovery HD partition for that purpose. The Recovery HD is "hidden" from the normally running operating system (El Capitan). It is available at boot-time. You can boot into the Recovery HD in two ways:
  1. After you hear the boot chime, hold down CMD (also known as the Apple key) and the R key.
  2. After you hear the boot chime, hold down the ALT key to get to the boot selector.

If you want to make the installer volume bootable again, you need to bless the installer partition.

Search this thread for bless.... ( post #2720 )
 
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AlistairD

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Don't you have to download the drivers for Nvidea cards? Not sure if this is the issue but I recall somewhere that Radeon drivers were included in the OS but not Nvidia.

Thanks Ant, but I have the Nvidia Drivers installed... I am running an older Mac Screen with a multi-pin input and not the newer DVI type plug... Might that be the problem?
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Supersoberguy

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Jun 5, 2017
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Hey everyone. I just wanted to say thank you, for this wonderful guide! I managed to install El Capitan twice on my Mac Pro 2,1 (flashed from 1,1). This guide is bookmarked and saved for good!

Everything seems to work flawless for the exception of the video card and booting into El Capitan on second and consecutive boots. I was hoping for some help in troubleshooting, since all of my ideas and research has failed.
  • I got a 1,1 that I flashed to 2,1
  • 2x3 Ghz X5365
  • 26 Gb RAM
  • Stock GPU 7300, 256 Mb, no external power needed
  • Non-flashed 9800 GT, 1 GB, 6-pin connector needed
The problem is that if I change the stock GPU to the non-stock non-flashed MSI 9800 GT GPU, I get to the El Capitan on first time. Everything works perfectly and flawlessly. But on the second boot, or the restart of the first boot, Mac Pro refuses to boot into El Capitan. Since this GPU is non-flashed, I don't get any boot screen or whatsoever and cannot troubleshoot. I then install my old stock 7300 and everything, miraculously to my frustration, works fine on the first boot. If I switch from the stock to non-stock GPU, it again works on the first boot, but not on the restarts or consequent boots.

And here I am, swapping these GPU back and forth all the time and this is getting annoying, since I can't understand the problem.

Another annoying part of this whole this is that if I put my Bootcamp partition as a startup disk, my non-stock non-flashed GPU works perfectly all the time. The restarts, no matter how many times I turn off the machine and turn it on - it will still boot into Bootcamp without any problems and works just fine.

So, what I did so far and has not worked:
  • Put in my old RAM
  • Reset the PRAM and the SMC (hoped for something)
  • Changed the PCI slots for the 9800 GT
  • Re-installed El Capitan for the second time
  • Changed the power connectors from the motherboards mini 6 pin to two Molex (from Optical Drive Bay) to 6 pin connector
If some of you have encountered this problem, or similar (since I searched the forum and google this issue without any success), share the light of knowledge and save me from this swapping hell, please. If any info is needed, I will supply it to you.
 

raymanster

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I had something similar with my 1,1 after flashing and upgrading (processors, RAM and GPU), it turns out the RAM was overheating. Try using something like Macs Fan Control (www.crystalidea.com/macs-fan-control) to speed up the fans for the RAM and processors. I think I set mine to around 1000-1200 rpm and since then it reboots fine.


Hey everyone. I just wanted to say thank you, for this wonderful guide! I managed to install El Capitan twice on my Mac Pro 2,1 (flashed from 1,1). This guide is bookmarked and saved for good!

Everything seems to work flawless for the exception of the video card and booting into El Capitan on second and consecutive boots. I was hoping for some help in troubleshooting, since all of my ideas and research has failed.
  • I got a 1,1 that I flashed to 2,1
  • 2x3 Ghz X5365
  • 26 Gb RAM
  • Stock GPU 7300, 256 Mb, no external power needed
  • Non-flashed 9800 GT, 1 GB, 6-pin connector needed
The problem is that if I change the stock GPU to the non-stock non-flashed MSI 9800 GT GPU, I get to the El Capitan on first time. Everything works perfectly and flawlessly. But on the second boot, or the restart of the first boot, Mac Pro refuses to boot into El Capitan. Since this GPU is non-flashed, I don't get any boot screen or whatsoever and cannot troubleshoot. I then install my old stock 7300 and everything, miraculously to my frustration, works fine on the first boot. If I switch from the stock to non-stock GPU, it again works on the first boot, but not on the restarts or consequent boots.

And here I am, swapping these GPU back and forth all the time and this is getting annoying, since I can't understand the problem.

Another annoying part of this whole this is that if I put my Bootcamp partition as a startup disk, my non-stock non-flashed GPU works perfectly all the time. The restarts, no matter how many times I turn off the machine and turn it on - it will still boot into Bootcamp without any problems and works just fine.

So, what I did so far and has not worked:
  • Put in my old RAM
  • Reset the PRAM and the SMC (hoped for something)
  • Changed the PCI slots for the 9800 GT
  • Re-installed El Capitan for the second time
  • Changed the power connectors from the motherboards mini 6 pin to two Molex (from Optical Drive Bay) to 6 pin connector
If some of you have encountered this problem, or similar (since I searched the forum and google this issue without any success), share the light of knowledge and save me from this swapping hell, please. If any info is needed, I will supply it to you.
 

Supersoberguy

macrumors newbie
Jun 5, 2017
25
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Thank you for your reply.

Yeah, I've had ideas that the temperature may be an issue, since new RAM came with a different heat sink from the Apple's stock one's and new one's do get hot as hell even after 5-10 minutes of work. Some get more hot than the other's, but still, a 5-10° C difference is a big thing...

TG Pro showed that some of the slots did get more heat and the rear exhaust was pushing like an animal and there were times when I thought "Oh, dear me, it's gonna take off now any minute now".

I addressed the issue by experimenting with the positions of the RAM's. But the total number of combinations is a bit too high for me.. It is 8!=40320... So, with the trial and error method I managed to find the more or less working combination of RAM placement so that I would not get 2000+ RPM. But rather 800-1000 RPM.

But the issues with GPU still remains even after all of these manipulations. I guess, if this is the RAM issue, I'll just continue on with the placement of RAM and hopefully will find a more favorable combination.

Another interesting thing is that the stock RAM will still give me this headache with boot on second and following times.


Could it be the CPU's? Even though I do get boot and the CPU heat sink's temperatures are 40-45° C in idle.


I had something similar with my 1,1 after flashing and upgrading (processors, RAM and GPU), it turns out the RAM was overheating. Try using something like Macs Fan Control (www.crystalidea.com/macs-fan-control) to speed up the fans for the RAM and processors. I think I set mine to around 1000-1200 rpm and since then it reboots fine.
 
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rthpjm

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Thank you for your reply.

Yeah, I've had ideas that the temperature may be an issue, since new RAM came with a different heat sink from the Apple's stock one's and new one's do get hot as hell even after 5-10 minutes of work. Some get more hot than the other's, but still, a 5-10° C difference is a big thing...

TG Pro showed that some of the slots did get more heat and the rear exhaust was pushing like an animal and there were times when I thought "Oh, dear me, it's gonna take off now any minute now".

I addressed the issue by experimenting with the positions of the RAM's. But the total number of combinations is a bit too high for me.. It is 8!=40320... So, with the trial and error method I managed to find the more or less working combination of RAM placement so that I would not get 2000+ RPM. But rather 800-1000 RPM.

But the issues with GPU still remains even after all of these manipulations. I guess, if this is the RAM issue, I'll just continue on with the placement of RAM and hopefully will find a more favorable combination.

Another interesting thing is that the stock RAM will still give me this headache with boot on second and following times.


Could it be the CPU's? Even though I do get boot and the CPU heat sink's temperatures are 40-45° C in idle.
Hello Supersoberguy,

If you believe your issue is heat related, then can I ask if you have cleaned the CPU heat sinks?

The air flow on early MacPros is front to back, the main air flow is push-pulled through the lower third of the chassis. There is a front fan pushing air across the CPU heat sinks, then across the RAM compartment, finally there is a rear fan pulling air out of the RAM compartment.

Personally, I regularly remove the front fan assembly and clean the front side of the CPU heat sinks. It's quite easy for the heat sinks to become blocked and thus disrupt/reduce the air flow over the RAM. In my environment, cleaning twice a year is sufficient, ymmv.

My RAM is a mixed estate, some with Apple-correct large finned heat sinks, some with just regular flat heat spreaders. For me, I have not had a problem with heat generated crashes or errors.

Most of my RAM and both of my CPUs are second hand purchases. Maybe I've simply been lucky! With second hand components, you can never know if they've been through thermal stress before you got hold of them.

If you can't find a totally stable layout with all the RAM, try removing a pair to see if it alters the behaviour. If the behaviour stays the same, refit the pair, then remove another pair. Repeat until you find a stable set. If you still can't find a stable condition, consider removing the CPU heat sinks, clean the paste off, re-apply paste and reassemble.
 

Supersoberguy

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Jun 5, 2017
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Hello Supersoberguy,

If you believe your issue is heat related, then can I ask if you have cleaned the CPU heat sinks?

The air flow on early MacPros is front to back, the main air flow is push-pulled through the lower third of the chassis. There is a front fan pushing air across the CPU heat sinks, then across the RAM compartment, finally there is a rear fan pulling air out of the RAM compartment.

Personally, I regularly remove the front fan assembly and clean the front side of the CPU heat sinks. It's quite easy for the heat sinks to become blocked and thus disrupt/reduce the air flow over the RAM. In my environment, cleaning twice a year is sufficient, ymmv.

My RAM is a mixed estate, some with Apple-correct large finned heat sinks, some with just regular flat heat spreaders. For me, I have not had a problem with heat generated crashes or errors.

Most of my RAM and both of my CPUs are second hand purchases. Maybe I've simply been lucky! With second hand components, you can never know if they've been through thermal stress before you got hold of them.

If you can't find a totally stable layout with all the RAM, try removing a pair to see if it alters the behaviour. If the behaviour stays the same, refit the pair, then remove another pair. Repeat until you find a stable set. If you still can't find a stable condition, consider removing the CPU heat sinks, clean the paste off, re-apply paste and reassemble.

Dear rthpjm, thank you for your reply.

When I picked the Mac Pro, it was in a really poor condition. It was dusty, dirty, no soul in it from the previous owner who had closed down the company and was selling off these machines dirt cheap. Couldn't ask for more with the price I paid for it in the end. I spend the whole day cleaning the poor thing out and making it look live again.

Yes, when I changed the CPU's I did clean both the heat sinks (which were very dusty) and the CPU very thoroughly, and only then did I apply the new thermal paste and reinstalled the whole thing back. I do understand that it will take some time for the thermal paste to properly sit and kick in, I guess. I'll leave the screenshot of the TG Pro of my Mac Pro for the reference of my temperatures. I didn't benchmark the temperatures with the old CPU's with different scenarios, but the new CPU's are more or less in 4-5° C difference with CPU A (higher one) being a little bit cooler than the CPU B (lower one). Even though the laws of physics of aerial circulation in a room space tells us that the cool air is in the lower part of the space and hotter air is in the upper. But, I guess, this is due to the different levels thermal paste that may have been the case of this thermal difference.

Coming back to the GPU problem. I somewhat did manage to find the solution, but I am not entirely sure that this is really a solution, or just a temporary patch-like workaround.

The thing is that raymanster pointed out the heat problem of RAM as a possible issue which then led me to thinking that even if my RAM was getting high temperatures, it may affect the PCI 1 slot as well and the GPU that is placed there, even though the RAM sits in a cage-like box and some hot air is blown away. But still, the cage itself gets hot and it may affect the GPU as well. I took off the cooler and re-applied the thermal paste in my old 9800 GT that I have put into Mac Pro and decided to put it in the PCI 2 slot (even though previously it didn't make any difference). I do know that it is now bottlenecked to the x8 speeds, as far as I can remember from what I chose from the Expansion Utility.

Since then, Mac Pro does boot more or less on the second or third try, but will still get me to just a blank screen without ever booting in from time to time. I then put the stock 7300 which will boot just fine and then replace it with 9800 once again.
 

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Ant3000

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FWIW I have 32gb of RAM that seems to run fine but it does have the big heat sinks - I figured Apple used these for a reason as they would have used standard types if they weren't useful - although others have success without them. If you have had the CPUs and heat sinks apart it may be a good place to check - the instructions I used recommended cleaning and priming the CPU before using a small spot of thermal paste to connect to the heat sink. But checking where heat is being created would be a good start - you can rev up the fans in the hot area to see if performance improves.
My fan speeds are CPU 763 IO 708 Exhaust 863 PS 599 With Ambient air of 25C my figures look slightly lower.
 

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rthpjm

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Dear rthpjm, thank you for your reply.

When I picked the Mac Pro, it was in a really poor condition. It was dusty, dirty, no soul in it from the previous owner who had closed down the company and was selling off these machines dirt cheap. Couldn't ask for more with the price I paid for it in the end. I spend the whole day cleaning the poor thing out and making it look live again.

Yes, when I changed the CPU's I did clean both the heat sinks (which were very dusty) and the CPU very thoroughly, and only then did I apply the new thermal paste and reinstalled the whole thing back. I do understand that it will take some time for the thermal paste to properly sit and kick in, I guess. I'll leave the screenshot of the TG Pro of my Mac Pro for the reference of my temperatures. I didn't benchmark the temperatures with the old CPU's with different scenarios, but the new CPU's are more or less in 4-5° C difference with CPU A (higher one) being a little bit cooler than the CPU B (lower one). Even though the laws of physics of aerial circulation in a room space tells us that the cool air is in the lower part of the space and hotter air is in the upper. But, I guess, this is due to the different levels thermal paste that may have been the case of this thermal difference.

Coming back to the GPU problem. I somewhat did manage to find the solution, but I am not entirely sure that this is really a solution, or just a temporary patch-like workaround.

The thing is that raymanster pointed out the heat problem of RAM as a possible issue which then led me to thinking that even if my RAM was getting high temperatures, it may affect the PCI 1 slot as well and the GPU that is placed there, even though the RAM sits in a cage-like box and some hot air is blown away. But still, the cage itself gets hot and it may affect the GPU as well. I took off the cooler and re-applied the thermal paste in my old 9800 GT that I have put into Mac Pro and decided to put it in the PCI 2 slot (even though previously it didn't make any difference). I do know that it is now bottlenecked to the x8 speeds, as far as I can remember from what I chose from the Expansion Utility.

Since then, Mac Pro does boot more or less on the second or third try, but will still get me to just a blank screen without ever booting in from time to time. I then put the stock 7300 which will boot just fine and then replace it with 9800 once again.
From your responses it does point to your GT9800 being heat sensitive. The stock 7300 is a rock solid card, and the fact that it is passively cooled probably means it stays well within its thermal parameters.
I've killed an Apple 1900 (previously owned by someone else). Unfortunately graphics cards can and will fail. Thermal stress is the usual cause.

Is the lower rear (exhaust) fan actually spinning? Speeds are often read from the controller, they may not actually represent the actual physical speed of the unit....
 

Supersoberguy

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Jun 5, 2017
25
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Almaty, Kazakhstan
cleaning and priming the CPU before using a small spot
Could this really be the case? I've done the thermal paste before without priming the CPU and everything was up and running. Maybe the Mac Pro is a different story. I'll try it, if all fails.

Is the lower rear (exhaust) fan actually spinning?

Yes, it does spin. All of the fans in Mac Peo spin.


I'm starting to think that the GPU itself is causing problems. I've tried another GPU, everything worked fine... Guess, I'll just have some other GPU in some time then.
 

work2survive

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Hi, first of all thanks for the time you spent on this.
I just ordered few memory expansions for my mac pro 1.1, I would just want to advise you to put the same warning about memory size implemented in the pikify v12, because is missing in the v14, so therefore will run and crash when extracting "essentials.pkg" if you dont have enough RAM, that's all.

Thanks again.
 
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Ant3000

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Could this really be the case? I've done the thermal paste before without priming the CPU and everything was up and running. Maybe the Mac Pro is a different story. I'll try it, if all fails.

Maybe not, it was just a thought as you mentioned you had taken them apart. I have only limited experience of doing this but the instructions I followed suggest it ensured better contact between CPU and heat sink. It was basically adding thermal paste to the cpu and wiping off to fill the microscopic pits on the chip. Then add the spot of thermal paste and the heat sink. If it was this it would probably give higher temperature readings for the CPUs. By the sound of it may be your graphics card.
I had a HD5770 that should have connected at x16 but only ever showed x8 and on looking into it it appears it makes very little difference to noticeable speed. Have you tried increasing the fan speeds to see if it helps?[/QUOTE]
 

chrisrm9208

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Just tried to resurrect another Mac Pro 1,1 using v14 and this behaved as documented, right up to the point where I started it the next day. At that point, it went to the recovery partition and asked whether I wanted to restore OS X etc... Choosing the startup partition from the Disk Utility looked OK, right up to the point where it reboots and starts up in the recovery partition. Absolutely everything behaved as described in the execution of v14, except the result. I'm typing this on my own MP1,1 that I used an earlier version of this process to bring El Cap onto, and this is still running just fine. Have downloaded v12, and I may give that a try if it's suggested. Anyone seen what I describe before?
 

rthpjm

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Hi, first of all thanks for the time you spent on this.
I just ordered few memory expansions for my mac pro 1.1, I would just want to advise you to put the same warning about memory size implemented in the pikify v12, because is missing in the v14, so therefore will run and crash when extracting "essentials.pkg" if you dont have enough RAM, that's all.

Thanks again.
Hello work2survive,

I'm not sure what you mean here. My post at #1390 clearly states 12GB or more of RAM is required (bold red text). Did you watch the video? I don't think you can miss the reference there!!!!
 
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