Yes I did the installation of Pike's Yose Fix, but restarted only one time.. before hitting "Update All".
if that can be the problem?
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Resolved 2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X Yosemite
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Yes I did the installation of Pike's Yose Fix, but restarted only one time.. before hitting "Update All".
if that can be the problem?
Good luck, but that didn't work for me (I'm running a DIY Fusion drive). I suspect Mr. Zarniwoop is right, this has something to do with initially trying to boot off of the wrong partition, but I don't know enough to actually figure out what's going on (or to fix it). Just renamed the bootcaches.plist file in /usr/standalone so that the system doesn't recognize it. Stops the double boot. Change the filename back to bootcaches.plist before any system updates, as this file is sometimes changed and it will bork the update if the plist file is not found. Then rename it after the update completes and you're all set.
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No idea.
Boot from the 10.7.5 disk/partition I have been advising all 1,1 owners to keep handy.
Place a freshly download boot.efi in both spots
Run a repair permissions
Should do it
Ideally the repair permissions is done from a recovery partition, may not run from old OS onto new one.
Going from Mavericks to Yosemite
I used the SFOTT method in 2014 to go from Lion to Mavericks on my MP1,1 and have been running great ever since. (of course I upgrade the CPUs, video card, RAM, and an SSD). Now I'd like to try moving up to Yosemite.
Question: Since I'm already on Mavericks are there any shortcuts to getting to Yosemite or do I need to go through Hennesie2000 guide as I would if the machine was still on Lion?
(current machine info attached)
Thanks guys this thread is amazing
I used the SFOTT method in 2014 to go from Lion to Mavericks on my MP1,1 and have been running great ever since. (of course I upgrade the CPUs, video card, RAM, and an SSD). Now I'd like to try moving up to Yosemite.
Question: Since I'm already on Mavericks are there any shortcuts to getting to Yosemite or do I need to go through Hennesie2000 guide as I would if the machine was still on Lion?
(current machine info attached)
Thanks guys this thread is amazing
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I tried the bless approach first and it didn't work, so we may be sure it won't cure the issue.
The bootcaches.plist approach worked, thanks!!!
I've been having issues since 10.10.3 supplemental so I reinstalled from my Yosemite Macbook Air, booted from that drive attached to my MBA into Yosemite, change the boot.efi in both spots (I've done this several times successfully with 10.10 and 10.10.2), run disk permissions then place the drive back in my MacPro 1,1. Hangs at startup. I jump to my Lion drive and open disk util and the drive no longer shows the option to repair permissions (I'm guessing the mac thinks it's a non-bootable drive?). Is there something that might've gotten changed besides the efi files? PikeYoseFix was installed but was apparently thrwarted by the supplemental. What spot do you check to see if Yose is still installed? I haven't reinstalled in this latest round because I haven't been able to boot from the drive on the MacPro yet.
Solid gray Apple icon or blinking folder icon
Hi everyone!
I have perused this massive thread for answers and seem a bit stuck. I have a Mac Pro 1,1 that had OS X version 10.6.8 installed on it. I recently added a Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT to make sure it would be compatible with Yosemite.
I used the 1st/easiest method to upgrade to Yosemite - I simply downloaded the pre-patched Yosemite DMG file from Mega.com and used Disk Utility to restore it to a 8GB flash drive. I restarted my Mac, chose to boot from the USB drive and it recognized it successfully and started installing. It said it would take about 20 minutes.
Well, 3 hours later and its only showing a dark gray apple logo on a light gray background. I push the button on my Mac to power down and restart (without the USB drive plugged in). This time, it shows the gray icon but blinks with the folder and question mark. If I hold down OPTION while I boot and specifically choose the System Drive to boot from, it goes back to the dark gray icon/gray background.
I then tried to go through the installation process again and got the same result. What exactly am I doing wrong? I thought that by using the pre-made DMG file that I wouldn't have to do anything besides restore it to a drive and boot from it. Is there something I am missing?
By the way, I am not running any unusual disk drives or Hackintosh or anything like that. Just a standard SSD drive with OS X 10.6.8 installed on it previously.
Any help would be appreciated. I am trying to upgrade this machine so I can use the latest version of Premiere for my video editing work. Thanks!
Hi everyone!
I have perused this massive thread for answers and seem a bit stuck. I have a Mac Pro 1,1 that had OS X version 10.6.8 installed on it. I recently added a Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT to make sure it would be compatible with Yosemite.
I used the 1st/easiest method to upgrade to Yosemite - I simply downloaded the pre-patched Yosemite DMG file from Mega.com and used Disk Utility to restore it to a 8GB flash drive. I restarted my Mac, chose to boot from the USB drive and it recognized it successfully and started installing. It said it would take about 20 minutes.
Well, 3 hours later and its only showing a dark gray apple logo on a light gray background. I push the button on my Mac to power down and restart (without the USB drive plugged in). This time, it shows the gray icon but blinks with the folder and question mark. If I hold down OPTION while I boot and specifically choose the System Drive to boot from, it goes back to the dark gray icon/gray background.
I then tried to go through the installation process again and got the same result. What exactly am I doing wrong? I thought that by using the pre-made DMG file that I wouldn't have to do anything besides restore it to a drive and boot from it. Is there something I am missing?
By the way, I am not running any unusual disk drives or Hackintosh or anything like that. Just a standard SSD drive with OS X 10.6.8 installed on it previously.
Any help would be appreciated. I am trying to upgrade this machine so I can use the latest version of Premiere for my video editing work. Thanks!
Just don't forget to rename the file to bootcaches.plist before you apply any system updates. Most of them are fine, but I couldn't get Security Update 003 (or whatever it was called) to install. Finally figured out that it was looking for the bootcaches.plist file and was crashing when it didn't find it. Then you can change the name again afterwards to eliminate the dual boot.
Early 2008 Mac Pro Graphic Card Issue (Sapphire HD 7950)
I tried searching for this specific issue but could not find any threads, sorry if there is one floating around :x
So I have an early 2008 Mac Pro - I was curious if anyone had experience putting other graphic cards into their machine? The board is compatible it seems as it fits in but when I start the computer I get the post screen but just before it boots to the operating system, it restarts itself stating it had an error.
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...d=1450&&lid=1#
That's the card that was given to me to try and put in. At this point I am assuming I need to flash the card perhaps? Or will this card completely not work?
Thanks!
I tried searching for this specific issue but could not find any threads, sorry if there is one floating around :x
So I have an early 2008 Mac Pro - I was curious if anyone had experience putting other graphic cards into their machine? The board is compatible it seems as it fits in but when I start the computer I get the post screen but just before it boots to the operating system, it restarts itself stating it had an error.
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...d=1450&&lid=1#
That's the card that was given to me to try and put in. At this point I am assuming I need to flash the card perhaps? Or will this card completely not work?
Thanks!
What version of Yosemite are you using? I've read that 10.3 breaks some AMD/ ATI drivers. This happened to me with my HD7750. Otherwise I believe that card is supported.
Having problems extracting using Pacifist
To follow up with my earlier post, I found that apparently, the pre-packaged DMG file hosted on Mega.com has become corrupt somehow. I believe it may be Mega.com's fault and not the original uploader; I have downloaded a few other zip files the other day from that website and none of those were able to extract either. I noticed something was off when I first tried to unzip it and Unarchiver told me "the archive file is incomplete". Another program worked, somehow, so I shrugged it off. Then I ran into the problems mentioned earlier (blinking folder with question mark). So I thought I would redownload it on a different machine.
I downloaded it on Windows and tried to extract the ZIP file with WinRar and the Windows built-in unzip. Both times, it said it was corrupt, just like on the Mac, and wouldn't extract anything at all. So I don't know if the original file is damaged or if Mega.com is causing problems but I decided to try it manually instead.
I followed the instructions of the guide on Page 1. I downloaded a copy of the 10.10 package and it went fine until it came time to extract the kernel. I have Pacifist 3.2 (3.5 will not run on my version of OS X, which is 10.6.8) and when I get to the step where I need to extract the kernel from the Essentials.pkg file, I get the following error:
“file:///xxxx/./System/Library/Kernels/kernel” does not exist."
This is the same error another user (johnywoodstar) was seeing as well back in February. I have tried opening the Essentials.pkg file with other programs but it will not reveal the file structure like Pacifist does.
Basically - can someone upload the kernel file somewhere? I know Hennesie2000 was going to but never got a response from johnywoodstar and so it never got uploaded. I have been trying to get Yosemite installed for 3 days now and just want to be finished. Thanks!
To follow up with my earlier post, I found that apparently, the pre-packaged DMG file hosted on Mega.com has become corrupt somehow. I believe it may be Mega.com's fault and not the original uploader; I have downloaded a few other zip files the other day from that website and none of those were able to extract either. I noticed something was off when I first tried to unzip it and Unarchiver told me "the archive file is incomplete". Another program worked, somehow, so I shrugged it off. Then I ran into the problems mentioned earlier (blinking folder with question mark). So I thought I would redownload it on a different machine.
I downloaded it on Windows and tried to extract the ZIP file with WinRar and the Windows built-in unzip. Both times, it said it was corrupt, just like on the Mac, and wouldn't extract anything at all. So I don't know if the original file is damaged or if Mega.com is causing problems but I decided to try it manually instead.
I followed the instructions of the guide on Page 1. I downloaded a copy of the 10.10 package and it went fine until it came time to extract the kernel. I have Pacifist 3.2 (3.5 will not run on my version of OS X, which is 10.6.8) and when I get to the step where I need to extract the kernel from the Essentials.pkg file, I get the following error:
“file:///xxxx/./System/Library/Kernels/kernel” does not exist."
This is the same error another user (johnywoodstar) was seeing as well back in February. I have tried opening the Essentials.pkg file with other programs but it will not reveal the file structure like Pacifist does.
Basically - can someone upload the kernel file somewhere? I know Hennesie2000 was going to but never got a response from johnywoodstar and so it never got uploaded. I have been trying to get Yosemite installed for 3 days now and just want to be finished. Thanks!
Here you go. https://copy.com/UhlWrUCDGZilVttN
I would just attach it here but it is over the file size limit. Hopefully copy.com works. I think with MEGA it works best if you are running Chrome and have the official MEGA Chrome extension installed. Some people say it is corrupted when downloaded but there are many on this thread who have downloaded and used it just fine.
Auxiliary Tools cannot be found
I thought it might have been the ZIP program too, which is why I tried it with 4 different unzipping programs. Just to test, I'm redownloading it now using the Mega extensions on both Chrome and Firefox on 2 separate machines.
Anyways - thank you for uploading the kernel! I was able to copy it properly. Now my problem is - I can't find the Auxiliary Tools on the Apple developers website! I wonder if they deleted them since they were 3 years old (and, to them, outdated). I searched all throughout Google as well and can't find it anywhere.
Does anyone know where to find the "Auxiliary Tools - Late July 2012"? Or perhaps there is a different package on the developers site I can grab? Thanks!
I thought it might have been the ZIP program too, which is why I tried it with 4 different unzipping programs. Just to test, I'm redownloading it now using the Mega extensions on both Chrome and Firefox on 2 separate machines.
Anyways - thank you for uploading the kernel! I was able to copy it properly. Now my problem is - I can't find the Auxiliary Tools on the Apple developers website! I wonder if they deleted them since they were 3 years old (and, to them, outdated). I searched all throughout Google as well and can't find it anywhere.
Does anyone know where to find the "Auxiliary Tools - Late July 2012"? Or perhaps there is a different package on the developers site I can grab? Thanks!
The tools are still there. I just checked and I had downloaded them a week ago. Here is how to find it.
- Go to https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action
- Login
- Search for Auxiliary Tools
Still have a question mark/blinking folder
So apparently, my Apple ID was malfunctioning. I called Apple and even they couldn't figure out the problem. I ended up using someone else's Apple ID and voila, I was able to grab the Auxiliary Tools.
I completed the rest of the setup according to the document. I was able to boot off of the thumb drive successfully and it brought up the installation dialogue like normal. I clicked on Install, accepted the agreement, and it said it would take 20 minutes. I watched the progress bar go down and it looked good.
After it was finished, my machine restarted and then stayed on the Apple logo. I let it sit for more than 2 hours and it didn't do a single thing. I shut off the machine, booted it back up and now I have the exact same problem as before! It shows the Apple logo, then flashes with a folder icon with a question mark.
I'm really at a loss here - it seems like murphy's law has been applied to my install quite a bit! Again, this is the same problem I had when installing from the pre-packaged DMG, but I used the manual method this time. This makes me wonder if it's something specific to my machine but I can't think of what it would be. I have a Mac Pro 1,1 with a 4-core CPU, a Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT 1GB video card that was Mac formatted (here is even the link I bought it from: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261792055528) with 10GB of RAM. The Geforce video card and the RAM worked fine before the upgrade, on OS X 10.6.8. Correct me if I'm wrong, but all of these things should work with this upgrade, right?
Any insight or things to try would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
So apparently, my Apple ID was malfunctioning. I called Apple and even they couldn't figure out the problem. I ended up using someone else's Apple ID and voila, I was able to grab the Auxiliary Tools.
I completed the rest of the setup according to the document. I was able to boot off of the thumb drive successfully and it brought up the installation dialogue like normal. I clicked on Install, accepted the agreement, and it said it would take 20 minutes. I watched the progress bar go down and it looked good.
After it was finished, my machine restarted and then stayed on the Apple logo. I let it sit for more than 2 hours and it didn't do a single thing. I shut off the machine, booted it back up and now I have the exact same problem as before! It shows the Apple logo, then flashes with a folder icon with a question mark.
I'm really at a loss here - it seems like murphy's law has been applied to my install quite a bit! Again, this is the same problem I had when installing from the pre-packaged DMG, but I used the manual method this time. This makes me wonder if it's something specific to my machine but I can't think of what it would be. I have a Mac Pro 1,1 with a 4-core CPU, a Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT 1GB video card that was Mac formatted (here is even the link I bought it from: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261792055528) with 10GB of RAM. The Geforce video card and the RAM worked fine before the upgrade, on OS X 10.6.8. Correct me if I'm wrong, but all of these things should work with this upgrade, right?
Any insight or things to try would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Can you still boot from the USB stick? Try repairing permissions and make sure the boot.efi file in CoreServices is locked.
Still have a question mark/blinking folder
Yes, my USB drive is still bootable. I assume you mean to repair permissions and lock the boot.efi file on the USB drive (and not the System OS drive) right?
*When I booted off of the USB drive and opened up terminal, I tried to lock the boot.efi file and it tells me the sudo "command not found"
*I cloned my System OS disk onto an external drive before upgrading (so I have a backup OS to use in the
meantime). I booted from that, opened up Terminal and it allowed me to lock the boot.efi file on the USB drive using the sudo command. Again, 100% positive I did this previously but it doesn't hurt to do it again.
*"Repair Disk Permissions" is greyed out for my USB Thumb drive, both for the drive itself and the partition. I did a standard HFS+ Journaled with a GUID partition like I was instructed to. I did a Verify Disk and it said it was okay. Should I do a Repair Disk instead?
*Just as a test, I checked and the CoreServices folder is not on /Volumes/System OS Disk/System/Library/. Not sure if that's normal or not.
*As a test, I repaired permissions on the System OS Disk but still getting blinking icon.
Thank you for your assistance with this so far!
Yes, my USB drive is still bootable. I assume you mean to repair permissions and lock the boot.efi file on the USB drive (and not the System OS drive) right?
*When I booted off of the USB drive and opened up terminal, I tried to lock the boot.efi file and it tells me the sudo "command not found"
*I cloned my System OS disk onto an external drive before upgrading (so I have a backup OS to use in the
meantime). I booted from that, opened up Terminal and it allowed me to lock the boot.efi file on the USB drive using the sudo command. Again, 100% positive I did this previously but it doesn't hurt to do it again.
*"Repair Disk Permissions" is greyed out for my USB Thumb drive, both for the drive itself and the partition. I did a standard HFS+ Journaled with a GUID partition like I was instructed to. I did a Verify Disk and it said it was okay. Should I do a Repair Disk instead?
*Just as a test, I checked and the CoreServices folder is not on /Volumes/System OS Disk/System/Library/. Not sure if that's normal or not.
*As a test, I repaired permissions on the System OS Disk but still getting blinking icon.
Thank you for your assistance with this so far!
No I was talking about repairing permissions on the drive/partition where you installed Yosemite from the USB.
Yes, I went ahead and repaired permissions on the System OS Disk on my Mac Pro, which is where I installed Yosemite. I also re-locked the boot.efi file on the USB drive, went through the installation steps again and still had the same issue.
I loaded up Disk Utility from the USB Drive and ran a "Repair Permissions" on the System OS Disk again since I reinstalled it. I rebooted the machine and still get the blinking folder/question mark. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that blinking icon mean it can't find something to boot from? Should I check in a location to make sure the appropriate files got copied over?
Thanks!
I loaded up Disk Utility from the USB Drive and ran a "Repair Permissions" on the System OS Disk again since I reinstalled it. I rebooted the machine and still get the blinking folder/question mark. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that blinking icon mean it can't find something to boot from? Should I check in a location to make sure the appropriate files got copied over?
Thanks!
Yes that means it cannot find something to boot from. Since you are able to boot the USB stick and are able to complete the install I am honestly not sure what is happening and without a working MacPro to test things, unfortunately I can only guess at this point.
The boot.efi file should be in /System/Library/CoreServices and /usr/standalone/i386 on your main system disk. As Hennesie2000 pointed out, the file in the CoreServices folder should be locked (this is the file that the computer boots off of). You might try running the bless command while booted from the USB installer (there are instructions at several places in the thread). I vaguely remember having a problem like this at one point that was fixed by doing this, and it seems to have helped other people.
This is linked to in the first post. https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/20668456/
Mr. Zarniwoop has done a fantastic job maintaining the first post with updates and solutions to problems.
Finally working!
Alright, so after spending 4 1/2 days with this, I seem to have made it work.
Since I couldn't outright "upgrade" the OS, I decided to do what I didn't want - wipe my System OS drive completely. When I did this and installed it, the machine rebooted and I got the language selection screen for the first time. When it came to migrating data, I was delighted to see that it had an option for importing data from a Startup/External Disk. The whole purpose of trying to upgrade was to keep my Applications intact so this seemed like a great option.
I selected my Backup Disk (that was a clone of my old OS X 10.6.8) and let it run. Afterward, the machine restarted again - to the same exact problem with the blinking folder/question mark! So I wiped the drive AGAIN, did a clean install again, and when it came to migration, I checked all of the boxes to transfer data from my backup disk EXCEPT for "Computer and System Settings".
After that transferred, the machine rebooted as normal! I am now running 10.10! On top of that, I loaded up Final Cut 7 just fine and it reads my old projects without any issues! I wish I would have tried this method 4 days ago instead of endlessly trying to troubleshoot one single problem. It seems there must have been some weird system file or something on the old OS X 10.6.8 that prevented it from booting. Not sure what exactly.
So for those who experience the blinking folder/question mark issue (especially when upgrading from 10.6.8) and your 1st few troubleshooting steps do not work, do what I did:
1.) Make a complete clone of your System OS hard drive and back it up to an external one. I used Carbon Copy Cloner and it worked like a charm!
2.) As a safety precaution, you might want to boot your machine from the External Back up Drive just to make sure all of your files transferred correctly.
3.) Boot from the Yosemite USB drive, open Disk Utility, select your old System OS disk and click ERASE to wipe it clean
4.) Go through the installation process of Yosemite.
5.) After the machine reboots and you have selected your language, it will ask if you want to migrate data. Choose the first option for Startup Disk, then select your Back Up External drive that you made a clone to. Choose all options EXCEPT for "Computer and System Settings".
6.) After it migrates, it should restart to Yosemite and you should be good to go.
Thanks everyone who spent time helping me and troubleshooting. Although I still don't know the exact root cause of my issue, I found a way to get Yosemite installed & working along with all of my Applications and files transferred. Later on, I might look at the process for upgrading to 10.10.3 but for now, I am going to take a breather!
Alright, so after spending 4 1/2 days with this, I seem to have made it work.
Since I couldn't outright "upgrade" the OS, I decided to do what I didn't want - wipe my System OS drive completely. When I did this and installed it, the machine rebooted and I got the language selection screen for the first time. When it came to migrating data, I was delighted to see that it had an option for importing data from a Startup/External Disk. The whole purpose of trying to upgrade was to keep my Applications intact so this seemed like a great option.
I selected my Backup Disk (that was a clone of my old OS X 10.6.8) and let it run. Afterward, the machine restarted again - to the same exact problem with the blinking folder/question mark! So I wiped the drive AGAIN, did a clean install again, and when it came to migration, I checked all of the boxes to transfer data from my backup disk EXCEPT for "Computer and System Settings".
After that transferred, the machine rebooted as normal! I am now running 10.10! On top of that, I loaded up Final Cut 7 just fine and it reads my old projects without any issues! I wish I would have tried this method 4 days ago instead of endlessly trying to troubleshoot one single problem. It seems there must have been some weird system file or something on the old OS X 10.6.8 that prevented it from booting. Not sure what exactly.
So for those who experience the blinking folder/question mark issue (especially when upgrading from 10.6.8) and your 1st few troubleshooting steps do not work, do what I did:
1.) Make a complete clone of your System OS hard drive and back it up to an external one. I used Carbon Copy Cloner and it worked like a charm!
2.) As a safety precaution, you might want to boot your machine from the External Back up Drive just to make sure all of your files transferred correctly.
3.) Boot from the Yosemite USB drive, open Disk Utility, select your old System OS disk and click ERASE to wipe it clean
4.) Go through the installation process of Yosemite.
5.) After the machine reboots and you have selected your language, it will ask if you want to migrate data. Choose the first option for Startup Disk, then select your Back Up External drive that you made a clone to. Choose all options EXCEPT for "Computer and System Settings".
6.) After it migrates, it should restart to Yosemite and you should be good to go.
Thanks everyone who spent time helping me and troubleshooting. Although I still don't know the exact root cause of my issue, I found a way to get Yosemite installed & working along with all of my Applications and files transferred. Later on, I might look at the process for upgrading to 10.10.3 but for now, I am going to take a breather!