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Resolved 2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X Yosemite
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Hi guys.
I work for a charity that can't afford to buy new Macs, so we're thinking of upgrading some Mac Pro 1,1's to either Yosemite at least if not even El Capitan.
My main question is, can we upgrade from 10.6.8 (I know, they never upgraded) to Yosemite through pike's efi-boot method without loosing everything?
Or is it that this method only works in terms of clean reinstalls?
The reason for the above is testing some already existing software, think CS3 and such...
Is it at all possible, or is the only way to use these an clean reinstallation of the OS?
Or should I upgrade to 10.8 first which is the latest supported and from there on to 10.10 with pike's method?
Thanks!
I work for a charity that can't afford to buy new Macs, so we're thinking of upgrading some Mac Pro 1,1's to either Yosemite at least if not even El Capitan.
My main question is, can we upgrade from 10.6.8 (I know, they never upgraded) to Yosemite through pike's efi-boot method without loosing everything?
Or is it that this method only works in terms of clean reinstalls?
The reason for the above is testing some already existing software, think CS3 and such...
Is it at all possible, or is the only way to use these an clean reinstallation of the OS?
Or should I upgrade to 10.8 first which is the latest supported and from there on to 10.10 with pike's method?
Thanks!
You should be able to update to Yosemite from 10.6.8.
Just a correction to your post, 10.7 is the last supported os for these Macs.
Oh yes, sorry about that.
So can I use any of the methods from the first post such as a separate Yosemite mac and target disk mode? Or is there one that is only for updating with the rest for clean reinstalls.
Also, on the matter of graphics cards, I do have some Asus 210 nvidia something cards (can't remember the model now and they seem like such a mix), would any of those work? I tried sticking it into 10.6.8 but of course it didn't have any drivers so it didn't work.
Is a better video card required just for the boot screen or will yosemite/el capitan work even with the stock one?
Thank you!
Whatever non-EFI card you tried in 10.6.8 didn't work primarily because self-initing cards appeared in 10.7.3 or so.
For us to tell you if your original card will work in Yosemite you will have to tell us what is in there, my crystal ball is out getting polished.
For us to tell you if your original card will work in Yosemite you will have to tell us what is in there, my crystal ball is out getting polished.
I know the initial one won't work because it says in many online tutorials that the stock ones don't work.
The stock one is a 7300 GT.
I have a bunch of Asus EN210 SILENT/DI/1GD3/V2/LP cards, will any work?
How do I even attempt to use the solution in the first thread if I can't see anything due to my current card.
Or should I upgrade to 10.7 first and then try pike's efi boot solution?
Thanks!
If you are booting in target disk mode to do the upgrade it doesn't matter what card is in the machine. If you want to make a USB installer then the 7300GT will usually boot the installer but you will need another card to actually run Yosemite, the GT210 should work.
As I haven't attempted any of this yet, I have no idea which of the two ways would be best.
Which of them is easiest?
Will both merely update my existing OS and keep all my data?
I'm thinking target disk mode would be easier, right?
When would I swap the cards? After the update?
Target disk mode using a supported Mac is easiest. After the update check to make sure all is well. Shut the machine down and swap that cards.
Don't forget to swap out the boot.efi files before attempting to boot the MacPro1,1 on its own. And, don't for get to install the PikeYoseFix before attempting to update the OS.
How do you use this file? It is a strange looking zip and I tried to just change it into dmg and it became even more strange looking.
Thanks for replying... I don't have a working Mac right, and when I tried to unzip in on Windows using 7z things were just weird... I'll try if I can do anything to it in Installer environment, could you take a look at my post? https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...er-kernel-trap-at-type-14-page-fault.1922171/
Sorry for getting back to you so late.
Yes, indeed, I'll do all that.
Just to be extra sure, installing Yosemite on the Mac Pro 1 1 that is in target disk mode and using pike's stuff will just upgrade the OS and not destroy any data, correct?
I will do the rest as mentioned as well, I'm just wanting to make sure I get this right.
Thank you!
An extra HD is usually laying around in most homes. Take advantage of all those bays and make an image of your drive before you monkey around with it. That way if it doesn't work out, you can revert easily.
Ok, I can do that, ut that still doesn't answer my initial question which I have been asking for some posts now, is the above procedure going to upgrade my 10.6.8 installation, or wipe it all and start from scratch?
Even if I take a backup, I'm still not going to be able to make much use of it if I need to put everything back.
Thank you!
Yes. But there is always a risk, that's why MacVidCards said backup.
Yup, that's fine, I have a backup anyways, it's just a nightmare restoring if I end up with a blank OS.
So in target disk mode, I just re-download Yosemite and go to the installed of it and select the target disk and that's it?
The initial thread isn't very clear on this exact step of the tutorial.
It really feels like I'm formatting the entire drive when I attempt to do that.
Thanks!
C'mon techsupport that's how OS X has always been. It is a non destructive install.
Well, while I do know that to be true, though I mostly do Windows and Linux-based distros, I have sadly had encounters with its darker side that decided to wipe everything.... And upgrading from something so ancient, I'm a bit hesitant.
I will try all of the above tomorrow then.
Thank you!
Right, so I connected the Mac Pro I wanted to upgrade intarget disk mode to a Yosemite one.
I downloaded Yosemite again in the appstore on the newer mac and selected the target disk as the installation drive.
It installed, and funny enough it rebooted booting the OS on the newer mac from the drive of the older one.
I restarted, disconnected the cable thinking it is just picking it up automatically (though I would have expected it to ask me which drive to boot from since two were available, but perhaps that's a key I should have held down), but now that I've disconnected the cable between the two macs, the newer one is taking mw through the reinstallation of Yosemite, as if it didn't have it installed at all.
Why is that, what did I miss, and can you guys please update the initial thread so that other people don't run into this.
I used to help the jailbreaking community with tests in the day of the 2g and 3g iphone and proper tutorials were always the problem, as they often times skipped steps.
I even wrote at one point an entire "put Linux on your idevoice" tutorial on hackint0sh simply because there wasn't a unified tutorial anywhere online.
I think the freshly installed OS X has to be booted once to remove the OS X installer from the boot args of the installer machine.
btw, are you sure the installation was even finished? Sounds more like you just ran the installer from the AppStore but didn't run the installation following the reboot...
btw, are you sure the installation was even finished? Sounds more like you just ran the installer from the AppStore but didn't run the installation following the reboot...
Yes, the installation did finish, it even,booted into the user and such and I could see all software.
I just turned it off, unplugged the cable and then it wanted to reinstall Yosemite on the newer Mac.
Now what?
The OS was booted up off of the old mac at least once.