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LaurentR2D2

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The beta is pretty stable but you would need to be using clover or chameleon to boot Mavericks as the Tiamo boot.efi method does not currently work with Yosemite. If it is to be your primary OS then I would wait till the GM release.

Thank you. Then, I'll wait. I'm curious, but not enough to take the risk to have to reinstall all my computer :). And normally, we should have just a little more than one month to wait now ?
 

Hennesie2000

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iMessage

iMessage stopped working for me yesterday for some reason and it wouldn't let me login on my MacPro (10.10) or my Hackintosh (10.9). I ended up having to call Apple because I think my UUID or serial number must have been blacklisted on the Mac Pro. The tech support had to check a box to allow the device to be registered with iMessage.
 

haralds

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iMessage stopped working for me yesterday for some reason and it wouldn't let me login on my MacPro (10.10) or my Hackintosh (10.9). I ended up having to call Apple because I think my UUID or serial number must have been blacklisted on the Mac Pro. The tech support had to check a box to allow the device to be registered with iMessage.
Apple has some sophisticated "hidden" and low level security precautions that lock in identity and device on multiple levels. Most messaging systems are easily spoofed. This is why you also get a lot of notifications on all devices and OSs as an instance is added.

It makes sense for them to have a time-out/lock out. I ran into that same issue before. It was also resolved by Apple support.
 

nick85

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Nov 27, 2011
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how to manage continuity and handoff support for mac pro 1.1/2.1 ?

is there any working confirmed solution under osx yosemite together with mac pro 1.1/2.1 ???
 

H2SO4

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is there any working confirmed solution under osx yosemite together with mac pro 1.1/2.1 ???

Eh? You’ve lost me.
There are people here in this thread, (you’ve read it right), that have it working what exactly do you mean?
 

radionicholls

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Eh? You’ve lost me.
There are people here in this thread, (you’ve read it right), that have it working what exactly do you mean?

He, and for that matter myself, are asking because we have come here and to be honest dont want to have to wade through 19 pages of discussions that wander all over the place to answer the question simple question!
 

richgoga

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Oct 11, 2013
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He, and for that matter myself, are asking because we have come here and to be honest dont want to have to wade through 19 pages of discussions that wander all over the place to answer the question simple question!

I don't normally reply to statements like this. I prefer to help whenever I post. But for you, I'll make an exception.

To simply answer your simple question... YES. People do have Yosemite working on a Mac Pro 1,1/2,1.

Now, if you want detailed instructions in how to do it yourself, READ THE THREAD. Because:
A) You might learn something. The geniuses who've made this work have gone through many trials and tribulations, so...
B) Stop asking for things to be repeated because you're too lazy to read.
C) Keeping these old machines running the latest OS requires time and patience. If you don't have enough of both of these (i.e. enough to read 19 pages), maybe it's best that you quit before you start.
 

H2SO4

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He, and for that matter myself, are asking because we have come here and to be honest dont want to have to wade through 19 pages of discussions that wander all over the place to answer the question simple question!

You know I had 10.8 running on my 1,1 and that thread grew to 156 pages, I’d understand if you weren’t going to trudge through all that. But just 19 pages?
BTW, they don’t wander all over the place most of the wandering is from people that have made mistakes or have problems, (even those methods that seem perfect for some reason are not a definitive answer for everybody).
 

Sko

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how to manage continuity and handoff support for mac pro 1.1/2.1 ?
is there any working confirmed solution under osx yosemite together with mac pro 1.1/2.1 ???
Things get a lot easier if you to take the post's title into consideration.

And no, I can't remember to have read about a working continuity/handoff configuration in this thread.
 

nick85

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Nov 27, 2011
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question was: how to manage continuity and handoff support for mac pro 1.1/2.1

running yosemite is no problem on mac pro 1.1/2.1 !

This wasnt what I have asked for.

macvidcards told that it is possible to manage continuity and handoff
support on mac pro 1.1/2.1

he told to use the same components that he uses for mac pro 3.1.

But, he is the only one who confirmed this.
By the way he "sells the components" for mac pro 2008-2012 ?
I couldnt find the components for mac pro 2006/2007 in his shop.

I also couldnt find another confirmation in this thread or somewhere else !
 

richgoga

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Oct 11, 2013
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Things get a lot easier if you to take the post's title into consideration.

Post titles aren't visible when viewing the mobile version of the site... Can't read read what isn't there!

Looks like that needs a fix! (Or everyone could stop using post titles? They ARE kind of pointless)
 

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nick85

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post titles arent visible...

"post titles arent visible when you use the mobile version of safari "

use a profssional browser like icab mobile where you can choose
which browser version you want.

No problem here to see the post title on iphone/ipad/ samsung galaxy note
 

richgoga

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Oct 11, 2013
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"post titles arent visible when you use the mobile version of safari "

use a profssional browser like icab mobile where you can choose
which browser version you want.

No problem here to see the post title on iphone/ipad/ samsung galaxy note

No thanks. I prefer things like iCloud tabs and Keychain to just work. I'm not sacrificing those things just to read post titles on a forum.

Now that you're aware of this post title limitation, surely you can see how your comment was taken out of context? If/Until this is fixed, perhaps you could put the detail of your questions/comments into the main Message section?

That would be much easier than asking everyone who uses Safari on an iPhone to switch browsers. Much less arrogant too.

Now... Back on topic?
 

profinite

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May 1, 2009
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Possibility for tiamo’s bootloader

Would someone with much more knowledge than I have please shed some light on my question below?

How likely is it that we will see tiamo’s bootloader adapted to Yosemite?

I have upgraded my 2006 MacPro1,1 to 2,1 with x5355s and 32GB of RAM. The machine runs Mavericks remarkably well and is as stable as I can dream about.

When a GM of Yosemite is released, I would be even more interested in moving to 10.10. But, only if tiamo’s bootloader becomes adapted to it.
 

Hennesie2000

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is there any working confirmed solution under osx yosemite together with mac pro 1.1/2.1 ???

MacVidCards has a working Airport/Bluetooth card for handoff and continuity. I read somewhere else where he said he had one working in I think a 2,1 even though on the site it says for a 4,1 or 5,1. He is sometimes on this forum so you could ask him directly if it will work with a 1,1 or 2,1.

http://www.macvidcards.com/store/p33/Wifi_AC_&_Bluetooth_Airport_Card.html

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Would someone with much more knowledge than I have please shed some light on my question below?

How likely is it that we will see tiamo’s bootloader adapted to Yosemite?

I have upgraded my 2006 MacPro1,1 to 2,1 with x5355s and 32GB of RAM. The machine runs Mavericks remarkably well and is as stable as I can dream about.

When a GM of Yosemite is released, I would be even more interested in moving to 10.10. But, only if tiamo’s bootloader becomes adapted to it.

The only person that knows this is Tiamo himself. I haven't seen anything about another person working on it.
 
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MacVidCards

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MacVidCards has a working Airport/Bluetooth card for handoff and continuity. I read somewhere else where he said he had one working in I think a 2,1 even though on the site it says for a 4,1 or 5,1. He is sometimes on this forum so you could ask him directly if it will work with a 1,1 or 2,1.

http://www.macvidcards.com/store/p33/Wifi_AC_&_Bluetooth_Airport_Card.html

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The only person that knows this is Tiamo himself. I haven't seen anything about another person working on it.

I have posted before about 1,1/2,1 and Yosemite .

You use the same one we sell for 3,1. It falls in the "lucky" category that Apple hadn't gone off reservation and dropped USB in the Mini-PCIE slot.

So, you just slap card in and both things work, no need for the more bother of the 4,1 kit with extra cables.

To note however, there are no drivers before 10.8.4 for those cards, so if you go back to Lion for something, suddenly no BT or WiFi.
 

Hennesie2000

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I have posted before about 1,1/2,1 and Yosemite .

You use the same one we sell for 3,1. It falls in the "lucky" category that Apple hadn't gone off reservation and dropped USB in the Mini-PCIE slot.

So, you just slap card in and both things work, no need for the more bother of the 4,1 kit with extra cables.

To note however, there are no drivers before 10.8.4 for those cards, so if you go back to Lion for something, suddenly no BT or WiFi.

Thank you for chiming in. I couldn't remember what you had posted before.
 

Mr. Zarniwoop

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I haven't much knowledge about this, but I guess that a Yosemite compatible version of Tiamo's Boot.efi could be available when Apple releases the 10.10 sources of the Darwin Kernel.

http://www.opensource.apple.com/

This has confused me from the very beginning when Tiamo posted his code. While Apple does release everything that's derived from open sources to their own open source site, I don't think boot.efi is there and dont think it's based on open source. Is the Mac OS X Intel boot.efi boot loader source on Apple's open source site? Tiamo would appear to either have (1) written a 32-bit EFI boot.efi boot loader from scratch, (2) based it on something open source no one here has pointed out or (3) based it on internal Apple sources.

The old Mac OS X PPC (pre-Intel) BootX boot loader was open source.
 

Mr. Zarniwoop

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The Darwin/XNU sources: http://www.opensource.apple.com/tarballs/xnu/, OS X 10.9 seems to correspond to version 2422.90.20 or higher.
Thanks for that, I hadn't gone and poked around that far.

I am not an expert, but it doesn't appear the tarball contains boot.efi source? It does seem to include a boot that loads the xnu kernel? But... it seems unrelated to boot.efi. Or am I looking at this wrong?
 

atvusr

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Or am I looking at this wrong?

The Boot.efi source is already there - from Tiamo. The Darwin/XNU source is the Kernel itself. The Bootloader (Boot.efi) starts the Kernel.

I guess we have to wait for the 10.10 sources of the Darwin Kernel to see what has changed and then adjust Tiamo's Boot.efi appropriate.
 

Mr. Zarniwoop

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I guess we have to wait for the 10.10 sources of the Darwin Kernel to see what has changed and then adjust Tiamo's Boot.efi appropriate.
Ok, I didn't get that you've been saying that all along. You could be right.

It's worth noting that booting the Yosemite kernel is reasonably well understood to the point where the "Hackintosh" boot loaders can boot the Yosemite kernel (at least the DPs to-date). It seems the major changes are location of kernel, new compression method, and signing of kexts.

Since Apple's boot.efi isn't open source, perhaps another place for inspiration to adapt tiamo's boot.efi is the Chameleon source that can boot Yosemite's kernel right now? (Not Clover since it boots the kernel using Apple's boot.efi.)
 

haralds

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Ok, I didn't get that you've been saying that all along. You could be right.

It's worth noting that booting the Yosemite kernel is reasonably well understood to the point where the "Hackintosh" boot loaders can boot the Yosemite kernel (at least the DPs to-date). It seems the major changes are location of kernel, new compression method, and signing of kexts.

Since Apple's boot.efi isn't open source, perhaps another place for inspiration to adapt tiamo's boot.efi is the Chameleon source that can boot Yosemite's kernel right now? (Not Clover since it boots the kernel using Apple's boot.efi.)
The "Chameleon method" already exists in the Chameleon boot. It essentially presents a completely virtualized hardware layer to the OS X guest. Its downside is complexity of installation and brittle dependency on "legacy" boot.

The elegance of the Tiamo method is that the OS runs unaltered on the native hardware with just a few runtime EFI calls translated from 64bit to 32 via thunking.

Debugging this sort of thing in kernel mode is tedious, so it makes total sense to wait for final open source elements to be published and the system to be stable.
 
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