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Kuzbad

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Jun 11, 2009
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Succesful install!

Many thanks to Hennesie for the guide and all others who worked on boot.efi, etc. The process was simple and went by with only one minor hitch!

MacPro1,1: 7gb ram, SSDs, GT 640, previously running Lion.

The original video card (x1900xt) had died within the last year, so I had installed a plain Nvidia GT 640, no EFI flash (so I don't see the boot up).

The guide was straightforward and clear. Did an upgrade install right over my old Lion install. I had a little bit of a panic when rebooting for the first time the screen never came up. I had to hold down the power button, do a cold power down, and then turn it back on. Still nothing, but I was able to VNC and check the graphics settings, etc. Everything looked good, but I still wasn't getting any video out of the video card. One more reboot, and everything is fine. Not sure what the problem with.

So far I really like Yosemite! I had not really like a release since 10.6, but I'm enjoying this. MacPro still runs great.
 

the bug

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Feb 21, 2014
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Thanks guys !
I was able to use mikeboss's boot.efi file and boot to the recovery partition using (Cmd)R keys, and everything seemed to work well. :)

I only replaced the one in the "com.apple.recovery.boot" directory, I did not replace the one inside the BaseSystem.dmg.
Is there some reason that you should replace the one inside the disk image too ?

- Jay
 

the bug

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Feb 21, 2014
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Well Apple won't even look at it.
Whoa man, that really sucks !
I'm just reading through the last couple of pages, getting caught up, and saw the trouble you were having.

I can't believe Apple won't even look at it, did they come right out and say it was too old ?

Do you get anything at all when you push the power button on the front ?
A click, or any sound from an optical drive trying to power up ?

It is possible your power supply gave out, do you have a volt meter ?
A quick check is to see if you have +5VDC, and 12VDC on the optical drive power connectors.

- Jay
 

Hennesie2000

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Sep 29, 2007
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2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X Yosemite

Whoa man, that really sucks !

I'm just reading through the last couple of pages, getting caught up, and saw the trouble you were having.



I can't believe Apple won't even look at it, did they come right out and say it was too old ?



Do you get anything at all when you push the power button on the front ?

A click, or any sound from an optical drive trying to power up ?



It is possible your power supply gave out, do you have a volt meter ?

A quick check is to see if you have +5VDC, and 12VDC on the optical drive power connectors.



- Jay


I do have a PSU tester some where I think. They said he because it is a "vintage" machine they can't look at it at all.

There are no noises or anything from the computer when the power button is pressed. No lights either.
 
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richgoga

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Oct 11, 2013
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I do have a PSU tester some where I think. They said he because it is a "vintage" machine they can't look at it at all.

There are no noises or anything from the computer when the power button is pressed. No lights either.

Does sound like a PSU issue, although Have you tried removing/reseating your RAM?
 

Hennesie2000

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Does sound like a PSU issue, although Have you tried removing/reseating your RAM?


I did remove the ram and put it back. When I tested it using a multimeter hooked up to one of the optical drive molex adapters it read 0.0v. I don't know if the logic board is bad then the power button doesn't work or if it will still trip the PSU on.
 

the bug

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Feb 21, 2014
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It's been a long time since I've had one of these supplies open, but there may be a "soldered in" fuse inside the power supply itself.

It's not meant to be user serviceable, but I have clipped a blown one out, and soldered a new one in before.

If you remove the power supply just be careful, there are some capacitors inside which can hold a charge, even if it has been unplugged for a while.

You can disconnect everything to check it, but if it does come on, don't run it too long unloaded.

Also I've seen the front panel switches get worn out too, that can be checked visually first, and then with an Ohm meter to be 100% sure.

Hopefully this helps.

- Jay
 

Hennesie2000

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It's been a long time since I've had one of these supplies open, but there may be a "soldered in" fuse inside the power supply itself.



It's not meant to be user serviceable, but I have clipped a blown one out, and soldered a new one in before.



If you remove the power supply just be careful, there are some capacitors inside which can hold a charge, even if it has been unplugged for a while.



You can disconnect everything to check it, but if it does come on, don't run it too long unloaded.



Also I've seen the front panel switches get worn out too, that can be checked visually first, and then with an Ohm meter to be 100% sure.



Hopefully this helps.



- Jay


I would suspect that the front switch would start working intermittently as it got worn out rather than to just stop functioning all together.
 

the bug

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Feb 21, 2014
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I would suspect that the front switch would start working intermittently as it got worn out rather than to just stop functioning all together.
Well, most of the Macs I used to work on were medical workstations that stayed on 24/7, and were only shut off to re-boot or repair.
I have seen the front panel switches on those fail suddenly, so it may be worth checking.

Maybe try holding the switch down while wiggling the button piece side to side a bit, that little switch assy. is kind of flimsy.

Most likely, it sounds like it may be the power supply itself.
You said you got no voltage on the Molex power connectors for the optical drives, there was no voltage on any of the pins ?

It is kind of a pain to get the front fan assy. out of the way to check the switch on the front panel pcb but it can be done, but the power supply isn't too bad to replace.
I do still have a pdf service manual for the 1,1 / 2,1 models if you want me to email it.

- Jay
 

Hennesie2000

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Well, most of the Macs I used to work on were medical workstations that stayed on 24/7, and were only shut off to re-boot or repair.

I have seen the front panel switches on those fail suddenly, so it may be worth checking.



Maybe try holding the switch down while wiggling the button piece side to side a bit, that little switch assy. is kind of flimsy.



Most likely, it sounds like it may be the power supply itself.

You said you got no voltage on the Molex power connectors for the optical drives, there was no voltage on any of the pins ?



It is kind of a pain to get the front fan assy. out of the way to check the switch on the front panel pcb but it can be done, but the power supply isn't too bad to replace.

I do still have a pdf service manual for the 1,1 / 2,1 models if you want me to email it.



- Jay


Yea there is a fuse inside but I am not going to attempt to clip it off the board and solder a new one on. I'll mess with the power button more and I will PM you with my email address for that service manual. The local certified apple repair place charges a flat rate of $129 for labor plus any parts. A new PSU can be had for about $99 on ebay. One guy on this forum said his university sells 1,1 mac pro for $50... might hit him up, lol, and just yank the PSU and put it in mine.
 

wwanthony

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Oct 24, 2013
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Yea there is a fuse inside but I am not going to attempt to clip it off the board and solder a new one on. I'll mess with the power button more and I will PM you with my email address for that service manual. The local certified apple repair place charges a flat rate of $129 for labor plus any parts. A new PSU can be had for about $99 on ebay. One guy on this forum said his university sells 1,1 mac pro for $50... might hit him up, lol, and just yank the PSU and put it in mine.

I have the service manual also Henn....I can send it right now if necessary.

Here you go....

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/_Text/MacPro_Service_Manual.pdf
 

chromedome45

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Oct 3, 2012
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Hennesie2000 ;;; Try removing the 2 pin wire from the power switch to the motherboard. Then short those 2 pins with a screwdriver momentarily and see if it turns on.

if it does then you may have a dirty or bad power switch. Good luck!
 

Hennesie2000

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Hennesie2000 ;;; Try removing the 2 pin wire from the power switch to the motherboard. Then short those 2 pins with a screwdriver momentarily and see if it turns on.

if it does then you may have a dirty or bad power switch. Good luck!


Will the machine power on with out the front fan assembly installed?
 

MaverickWong

macrumors newbie
Feb 7, 2008
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First of all, thanks for all the works to keep the Mac Pro alive!

With all the different versions of the boot.efi, which one is the best to use?

I am running Mac Pro 1,1 (mod to 2,1) with 2x x5355. OSX Maverick with boot.efi works perfectly and I would love to upgrade to Yosemite ASAP.

Thanks!
 

Hennesie2000

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First of all, thanks for all the works to keep the Mac Pro alive!



With all the different versions of the boot.efi, which one is the best to use?



I am running Mac Pro 1,1 (mod to 2,1) with 2x x5355. OSX Maverick with boot.efi works perfectly and I would love to upgrade to Yosemite ASAP.



Thanks!


You will want to use this version. It works with the Recovery HD and is non-verbose

https://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=20227487
 

bunts

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Jun 18, 2009
75
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Hi All,

Again like many others have said, great stuff getting this to work, thanks for the effort - my donation has been sent.

I've been searching for days now as to what GPU would be best for my needs now I have Yosemite installed on my Mac Pro 1,1. But i'm getting more and more confused as to what's best for my needs, so I've decided to bother you good people with my question!

My system:

Mac Pro 1,1
3GHz Dual Intel
Yosemite

I'm looking to do After Effects work, and Video Editing with Premiere Pro with this old beast. Would love to know straight up from those that know best what GPU would be ideal. My budget is around $300 (happy buying used card). And I don't mind not having the boot screen.

Cheers,

Tom
 

javidom

macrumors newbie
Oct 28, 2014
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How about other method???

Hi every one¡¡

Did somebody tried to install Mavericks on a supported Mac Pro, and then change the HD to the non supported one???

I'm going to test this with a friends Mac Pro.

For all I have reeded, the efi method, the chameleon method is for being able to make a "clean" installation, isn't I't??

Thanks a lot¡¡
 

PeterHolbrook

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Sep 23, 2009
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For all I have reeded, the efi method, the chameleon method is for being able to make a "clean" installation, isn't I't??

You either haven't read enough or you've failed to understand what you've read. You can't install Yosemite to a drive of a supported computer, next move that unmodified drive to an unsupported computer and expect it to work. It won't work.

Naturally, you can MODIFY the Yosemite installation in that drive (such as replacing boot.efi) and boot Yosemite on an unsupported computer (provided it has a 32-bit EFI but is 64-bit capable). Or you can boot the unsupported computer with Chameleon/Clover and use the unmodified drive to boot Yosemite in the unmodified drive (provided the computer is 64-bit capable).
 

javidom

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Oct 28, 2014
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You either haven't read enough or you've failed to understand what you've read. You can't install Yosemite to a drive of a supported computer, next move that unmodified drive to an unsupported computer and expect it to work. It won't work.

Naturally, you can MODIFY the Yosemite installation in that drive (such as replacing boot.efi) and boot Yosemite on an unsupported computer (provided it has a 32-bit EFI but is 64-bit capable). Or you can boot the unsupported computer with Chameleon/Clover and use the unmodified drive to boot Yosemite in the unmodified drive (provided the computer is 64-bit capable).

Thanks a lot¡¡
Yes, probably after all I've been reading from an endless websites I ended a bit confused....

So thanks for the response, let's try to do a booteable USB and flash efi.....

Wish me luck¡¡¡¡
 
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