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2009 Mac Pro in hand - unboxing etc.

Here's a photo with the motherboard removed :)

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Or maybe I should call this shot "Alpha and Omega" ;)
 
fabriciom said:
Does logic pro use all the cores (including virtual)?
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No idea. But if the application isn't managing multiple threads efficiently, the more cores you have, the more inefficient you will be. Way back when, as programmers coded for multiple CPUs we'd see diminishing returns from things like Photoshop Plug-ins that were coded for them, but to pull 6x performance out of an 8 core system is really impressive (Cinebench results from WSaus) compared to a decade ago. I remember when 50% utilization of additional cores was pretty darn good. Now we're seeing far greater than that.

Since geekbench is purely a processor/memory benchmarking tool, I'm betting that real world performance between the four core 2.66 and the eight core 2.26 are comparable in all but the most well-coded situations. For things like photoshop, video editing, or any disk-intensive applications, the extra $$ spent on the eight core machine might be better spend on a RAID card and some fast hard drives.

Of course, if money is no object, go for a machine like the one Wondersausage grabbed. Yikes!
 
MADMAXX said:
Does anyone know how many 4870's it will take? I need 3 cards. Is the GT120 my only option.?
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Yes... sort of. you can only use one 4870, but you can get a 4870 and a GT 120.

I don't think that you could get a 4870 and TWO GT 120 while staying under the power draw.

WonderSausage said:
Here's a photo with the motherboard removed :)

Or maybe I should call this shot "Alpha and Omega" ;)
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Very nice. :D
 
Ploki said:
considering the base model '06 > base model '07 was 2x performance... only fair would be that '09 base model would be 2x also he he.
id be sorry if i got my octo last year, but the price increase for the 09 octo is too big for me anyway (and probably overkill for audio :D )

anyway, screens of activity monitor :D


ive been wondering that too, although my physical 8 cores cant be topped i wonder what would be with 8+(8) .. :D
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I haven't worked with any mac pros and logic (only hackintosh). But I doubt you can have too much power...

Frozengeek said:
No idea. But if the application isn't managing multiple threads efficiently, the more cores you have, the more inefficient you will be. Way back when, as programmers coded for multiple CPUs we'd see diminishing returns from things like Photoshop Plug-ins that were coded for them, but to pull 6x performance out of an 8 core system is really impressive (Cinebench results from WSaus) compared to a decade ago. I remember when 50% utilization of additional cores was pretty darn good. Now we're seeing far greater than that.

Since geekbench is purely a processor/memory benchmarking tool, I'm betting that real world performance between the four core 2.66 and the eight core 2.26 are comparable in all but the most well-coded situations. For things like photoshop, video editing, or any disk-intensive applications, the extra $$ spent on the eight core machine might be better spend on a RAID card and some fast hard drives.

Of course, if money is no object, go for a machine like the one Wondersausage grabbed. Yikes!
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I was thinking of getting the 8 core 2.26 for audio work. Since Im spending a lot of money I want something to last a long time. But I can only spend up to 3.000€ and i still have to spend another 550€ on a new soundcard cause my RME 9632 is only PCI.
 
Tallest Skil said:
Yes... sort of. you can only use one 4870, but you can get a 4870 and a GT 120.

I don't think that you could get a 4870 and TWO GT 120 while staying under the power draw.



Very nice. :D
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Just buy an external power supply. Search newegg for one. They can range from 100w to 500w
 
MADMAXX said:
Therefore is my only option gt120x3?
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Do you have five monitors to run? If so, then yes. If you have less, don't get more cards than you need. Each card has two ports on it.

Battlefield Fan said:
Just buy an external power supply. Search newegg for one. They can range from 100w to 500w
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But that would require you to keep your case open when running the computer; something that is NOT advised.
 
Anyone else having trouble with the Geekbench website?

Anyway, I found a 11226 for the 2,26 octo.
Edit: Oh sorry NeoSage, it was your result :D
 
One Drawback

The first thing I did after unboxing (it was due Thursday, and here it is?)

was try to install a 300GB Raptor drive as the boot drive, but it didn't fit!

The 300GB is a laptop size, so the connectors don't line up.

So I'm stuck with the 640GB until I figure a way around it.

I will try the Photoshop test next.
 
Ploki said:
:D check again.
the power connector is as old as my grandma



7200rpm disk and 4gig 32bit logic limit is more of a bummer for logic than CPU's. i dont have overloads. :)
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My hackintosh is based on an intel board with a Q6600 and a 10.000 RPM drive and I have lots of overload problems.

Motherboard: D975XBX2 (Bad Axe 2) - CPU: Intel Q6600 - RAM: 2GB OCZ DDR2 @ 800mhz CL3 3-4-4-15 - HDD: 74GB 10,000RPM WD Raptor - GPU: MSI 8800GT 512MB - Sound Card: RME Hammerfal DSP 9632
 
Tallest Skil said:
Do you have five monitors to run? If so, then yes. If you have less, don't get more cards than you need. Each card has two ports on it.



But that would require you to keep your case open when running the computer; something that is NOT advised.[/QUOTE

No because you could remove one of the PCI brackets and string the power cord in through there. Then just set the unit outside.
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NeoSage said:
The first thing I did after unboxing (it was due Thursday, and here it is?)

was try to install a 300GB Raptor drive as the boot drive, but it didn't fit!

The 300GB is a laptop size, so the connectors don't line up.

So I'm stuck with the 640GB until I figure a way around it.

I will try the Photoshop test next.
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Wrong VelociRaptor... you need the WD3000HLFS, you bought the WD3000GLFS. The HLFS redirects the connectors so it's 3.5" hot swap capable.
 
NeoSage said:
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/115643

Score: 11226

while doing a migration at the same time :)

Does this mean it is faster than Octo-core 2.8? :cool:
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Yup. Remember, though, CPU/Memory speed isn't all that goes into an application benchmark which is where the rubber hits the road. Hard drives, amount of RAM, operating system, etc. all factor in. A 20% CPU/Memory increase may turn into a 5-10% overall increase which isn't even noticeable to the user without a benchmarking utility or a stopwatch.
 
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