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I have the top spec from January 2010, which I believe is the Intel i5 2.66ghz, 4gb DDR3 RAM, 1TB Hardrive and the graphics card can't remember what it is...512mb I think though.

I want to upgrade because it's either upgrade the whole computer or just upgrade the ram and graphics, also it will be my last year as a student so I wan't to reap my benefits now ;P

Other than this, no reason really, it runs perfectly, and is still fast.

Oh and I want them to fix the mini display to PS3 thing and include the thunderbolt connection but if they do that or not, I don't know...

I will offer you £50 and even offer postage and packaging. Send me your details and I transfer over the money, job done!
 
Off topic, but they're far from crappy. The fact that mine with identical spec to yours is still capable of multi-track recording in Logic Pro 9 with no slowdown is incredible - and it's a four year old machine!

I'm using the same computer for the same purpose. It still performs most duties but has failed bouncing audio in Pro Tools recently. I'd like to replace it but I'm waiting for a redesign rather than just a spec bump.

I think we've got a chance of a redesign before 2012.

August 2004 - iMac G5 introduced (white enclosure)

Three years later...
August 2007 - New design (20" - 24" black back)
April 2008 - No change
March 2009 - No change
October 2009 - Revised design (21.5" - 27" all aluminium enclosure)
July 2010 - No change
2011 - ???

It's coming up to four years since the introduction of the current iMac design. The MacBook Pro hasn't changed since October 2008 so I guess the iMac is due for a redesign first. I hope it's this summer.
 
What I don't understand is why alot of people think that buying a new computer every year is a smart thing to do. Most of us aren't really even going to notice a difference from last years top of the line model to the next top of the line model depending on what you use it for.

We are getting to a point of diminishing returns with all these new processors.
 
I'm using the same computer for the same purpose. It still performs most duties but has failed bouncing audio in Pro Tools recently. I'd like to replace it but I'm waiting for a redesign rather than just a spec bump.

I think we've got a chance of a redesign before 2012.

August 2004 - iMac G5 introduced (white enclosure)

Three years later...
August 2007 - New design (20" - 24" black back)
April 2008 - No change
March 2009 - No change
October 2009 - Revised design (21.5" - 27" all aluminium enclosure)
July 2010 - No change
2011 - ???

It's coming up to four years since the introduction of the current iMac design. The MacBook Pro hasn't changed since October 2008 so I guess the iMac is due for a redesign first. I hope it's this summer.

You will definitely not see a redesign anytime soon. The new iMacs look fantastic, the design was just updated in 2009, and the only possible thing they could change or would change for that matter, would to kick the aluminum and change over to liquid metal, and maybe add an option for a 24" iMac. I really want them to stretch the screen from edge to edge of the computer (where the black borders are). How sexy would that be?
 
What I don't understand is why alot of people think that buying a new computer every year is a smart thing to do. Most of us aren't really even going to notice a difference from last years top of the line model to the next top of the line model depending on what you use it for.

We are getting to a point of diminishing returns with all these new processors.

I totally I agree with you on this, however, if you have the money, why not? To some people, it's like a new car. You want change, you want better, and faster. Humans always want more lol. For me though, I get a top specced computer and it lasts me for about three years, and then I upgrade because support for drivers is less, applecare runs out, and more intensive applications come out by then.
 
I totally I agree with you on this, however, if you have the money, why not? To some people, it's like a new car. You want change, you want better, and faster. Humans always want more lol. For me though, I get a top specced computer and it lasts me for about three years, and then I upgrade because support for drivers is less, applecare runs out, and more intensive applications come out by then.

At least with a car, an upgrade is something that is realized and can be enjoyed. Buying a new computer every year (especially one that looks exactly the same) cannot provide much tangible benefit other that saying...."my geekbench score is 4 million; however, my old computer still worked fine for my needs".

Don't get me wrong; when I upgrade I go for the best and every few years I upgrade again but it's truly a waste of money to upgrade each year for a higher geekbench and that is what most people seem to be doing.
 
I totally I agree with you on this, however, if you have the money, why not? To some people, it's like a new car. You want change, you want better, and faster. Humans always want more lol. For me though, I get a top specced computer and it lasts me for about three years, and then I upgrade because support for drivers is less, applecare runs out, and more intensive applications come out by then.

im sorry but what kind of people do you know that buy a car every 1-2 years?... I agree tho, people on internet forums are ridiculous. A lot of people (not just here, but on other forums like [h]ard too) update their computers every year when all they do is browse the web and listen to music.
 
Off topic, but they're far from crappy. The fact that mine with identical spec to yours is still capable of multi-track recording in Logic Pro 9 with no slowdown is incredible - and it's a four year old machine!

it can handle video to a certain point, but some AE project take hours to render.

Alhtough it is excellent for web browsing.
 
im sorry but what kind of people do you know that buy a car every 1-2 years?... I agree tho, people on internet forums are ridiculous. A lot of people (not just here, but on other forums like [h]ard too) update their computers every year when all they do is browse the web and listen to music.

Me? From 2005 I have had a G35 (new), Murano (1 year old), Civic Ex, Miata (new), and now a VW TDI (2010). Worse, I change motorcycles about as much too (04 RT, to 03 K1200RS, to 05 RT, to 07 K1200R Sport, to 09 RT again, and back to a used 04 C).

As for tech, I don't change so much. I went from my first iMac (7600GT 24 inch type) to the first gen i5 27 incher because it was the first time I saw a real upgrade available. Between them I had a MBP for a while along side the iMac.

I may upgrade to the latest iMac provided it shows clear improvements over my current setup. What would that entail? 30%+ speed improvement over my i5, discreet graphics that at least feels current with at least a gig of dedicated memory, and a SSD boot device. A 30 inch screen might be nice but damn those boxes are huge already and Apple's own 30 display requires a box wider than the 27 iMac

I have no need for blu-ray but I would consider it a bonus feature I would certainly buy if available.
 
The only thing that would motivate me to upgrade to a newer model is the chance to actually get a current GPU. Everything else in my late 2009 Core i7 the iMac is more than ample for my needs and I wouldn't really notice much tangible difference, however, the ATI 4850 GPU is what really dates the it. Even when I got the iMac the GPU was already a little long in the tooth.
 
How come? Spec bump means it will get faster CPU, GPU etc. but no design or other major changes.

What major changes are you talking about here? We are definitely getting Thunderbolt, SSDs, Sandy bridge CPUs, 6K series videocards and apples favorite- thinner machines. So basically the only major update after the upcoming one would count as a design update, right?

Other then that- any speculations on the release date? I assume it should come before OS Lion, maybe next month as the average cycle is 7 month.
 
We are definitely getting SSDs

Source?

apples favorite- thinner machines

Source?

The only "big" thing that has more or less been confirmed is Thunderbolt. Other than that, it's just better CPUs and GPUs. SSDs are possible but most likely as a BTO option like now. MBPs were supposed to come with SSDs as standard but see what happened.

Other then that- any speculations on the release date? I assume it should come before OS Lion, maybe next month as the average cycle is 7 month.

My guess has been April for quite a while.
 
apples favorite- thinner machines.

Physical limitations (the power cord for example) and heat prevent this, the iMac is thin enough. I don't want to sacrafice performance anymore, and it needs to be the size that it's at.

Heat would be too great at a thinner profile, especially with a 27" screen :eek:

ON TOPIC: I would like to see them kick the "awesome" superdrive. It's outdated, I barely ever even use it, etc. UNLESS, they put a blu ray drive in, which will never happen. Getting rid of that thing could give us better graphics cards, better heat distribution, and maybe even 3 hard drives :eek:
 
I would like to see them kick the "awesome" superdrive. It's outdated, I barely ever even use it, etc. UNLESS, they put a blu ray drive in, which will never happen. Getting rid of that thing could give us better graphics cards, better heat distribution, and maybe even 3 hard drives :eek:

You make a great point. I think that all computers should just ditch optical drives. The only computer that makes sense is the Mac Pro.

If Apple had an external superdrive with 2-3 usb connections or 2 thunderbolt connections, we would never need an optical drive in another computer.

Having an optical drive in a computer is like putting a subwoofer in a laptop, sure it's nice, but you don't need it ALL the time.
 
Nah I think iMac needs to keep the optical drive. Having to resort to an external drive for the iMac defeats its purpose as an all-in-one. I personally would prefer having it inside and having a much nicer and cleaner setup.
 
Nah I think iMac needs to keep the optical drive. Having to resort to an external drive for the iMac defeats its purpose as an all-in-one. I personally would prefer having it inside and having a much nicer and cleaner setup.

why have one at all. External or internal?
 
You make a great point. I think that all computers should just ditch optical drives. The only computer that makes sense is the Mac Pro.

If Apple had an external superdrive with 2-3 usb connections or 2 thunderbolt connections, we would never need an optical drive in another computer.

Having an optical drive in a computer is like putting a subwoofer in a laptop, sure it's nice, but you don't need it ALL the time.

Haha, I'm glad that someone agrees with me :D but in all seriousness, it's not needed. The Macbook Air does just fine without it, and if your hard drive fails, and say, the OS needs to be reinstalled, well that's what that little chip is for.

One limitation: How would we install Windows? (Yeah, I said it, but I like to game too ^_^!) We would need an external optical drive, but I mean Apple offers a pretty nice looking one!
 

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I rarely use my optical drive, but I'm glad it's there purely because my external is a big old 3.5" drive that requires extra power cable etc haha. If they got rid of the optical and gave the option for a slim external then that would be the best bet and just provide the flash drive with OS in the box which will include all the extras found on Disc 2 as well.
 
If they drop the optical drive then I'll be going elsewhere for my next computer, but I honestly doubt they're going to drop them that soon. I'm looking into getting one as a kind of media centre. 27", 200gb iTunes video library, a huge collection of DVDs. That'd do me just fine!

I buy my software on disc, my TV shows and films on disc and I need it for backups and as a disposable and cheap method of sending very large files to colleagues around the country and world.

They're still very practical and useful.
 
i just bought the 27inch thats out now,i have till friday to return it. Should i return and wait for the refresh? And how long do you guy think thats gonna take till its released. :apple:
 
Nobody knows for certain, but I'd say imo probably around 3 months tops. The mid range specs of this model will more than likely be the low end specs of the new model so if it was me, I'd take it back unless you really need it in the mean time.
 
Nah I think iMac needs to keep the optical drive. Having to resort to an external drive for the iMac defeats its purpose as an all-in-one. I personally would prefer having it inside and having a much nicer and cleaner setup.

Tell me about it! Because Apple made it so difficult to upgrade my iMacs HDD (2006 C2D), I've had to resort to external HDDs. My optical drive is failing (overuse! but lasted longer than my initial HDD) so I'm going to have to get an external one until the new models are out. I've bought an external display because the iMac ones (at the time) were quite small. Had to buy an external USB hub. iPod touch and 2G Shuffle docks.

Then throw in work stuff like a Wacom, xbox controller, decent speakers, midi keyboard. Plus an EyeTV!

All-in-one... for who? People who don't use computers? :D
 
Nobody knows for certain, but I'd say imo probably around 3 months tops. The mid range specs of this model will more than likely be the low end specs of the new model so if it was me, I'd take it back unless you really need it in the mean time.

3 months?! i thought it was atleast a month or so, rumors were that it was due for march but i doubt thats happening, and im not really in the need, but i dont want to remain without a computer for that long.
 
i just bought the 27inch thats out now,i have till friday to return it. Should i return and wait for the refresh? And how long do you guy think thats gonna take till its released. :apple:

Could be next week, could be in a few months.
Bear in mind if the iMac follows the recent Macbook Pro updates then the next revision will be a huge leap indeed. If you can live with that - keep your current machine.
 
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