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2011 iPro = Mac Pro replacement
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In April, a very high profile developer told me that the new Mac Pro will have a different case. No, wait, I simply read it in the news:
http://9to5mac.com/2011/04/21/proto...led-redesigned-rackable-stackable/#more-63107
http://9to5mac.com/2011/04/21/proto...led-redesigned-rackable-stackable/#more-63107
iPro huh? Something tells me the name might be off
Mac Pro
iMac
Macbook Pro
Macbook Air
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iPro just seems to be missing something...
Mac Pro
iMac
Macbook Pro
Macbook Air
Mac mini
iPro just seems to be missing something...
Noooooooope.
Apple never lets new Mac hardware cases out of the building before launch. The idea that a third party developer would have one and be developing with it is laughable.
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You can all laugh, and this rumor may not be true, but I am sure at 95% Apple is going to get rid of Mac Pro for either this update or the next (my hunch is this one). Thunderbolt, like it or not, is a major game changer.
You can all laugh, and this rumor may not be true, but I am sure at 95% Apple is going to get rid of Mac Pro for either this update or the next (my hunch is this one). Thunderbolt, like it or not, is a major game changer.
lol. Nice try. Was FW800 a "major game changer"? Externals suck always. You are at the mercy of manufactures sleep cycles in the chassis. Far from a game changer as 6Gb SATA can do just as much and it's only 4Gb/s slower. But then again your running your graphics through it also so... Needs to be 20Gb/s or more and will be eventually but right now no way am I buying a 400.00 HDD that goes 90MB/s just cause it has TB. Only if Apple removes it's PCI slot offerings does TB make sense professionally. And then only because they forced you into it.
Processing could be a metered utility service in the future. It's too soon, but it would be just like Apple to jump the gun and screw what people currently want for their future investment.
All kidding aside, you know what I like about this thread? It is that anyone is even still anxious or even talking about any sort of new mac pro at all. I'm just hoping sales, buzz and overall consumer interest don't drop off to the point that they eventually do consider the end of the pro line as we know it. In the meantime, we are really waiting on Intel more so than Apple.
Thunderbolt isn't faster enough for mid end GPUs, or multiple GPUs.
Thunderbolt is a lot of things, it's certainly an improvement for Pros, but Thunderbolt is entirely incapable of replacing PCI Express slots. Sorry.
As long as Apple cares about dual CPU machines (which a lot of the Mac Pro's audience does) the Mac Pro is sticking around.
Not a major game changer yet, especially for storage. We have the Promise enclosures (priced outside a lot of people's budgets) and a line of pricey external LaCie drives. And that's about it right now.
When manufacturers start making single-disk enclosures in mass, then we can talk. But right now, there's very little incentive for them to do so when only Macs are shipping with TB and eSATA drives/enclosures are every bit as fast in practice.
That made me laugh
We're waiting on intel on more than one thing here. The mac pro is on an extremely long refresh cycle compared to the others overall with the base model and logic board features virtually untouched since 2009 at this point. If it's going to be much longer I kind of hope Apple just gets an early ivy bridge setup rather than what is out currently. At least we'd have usb3. November 15th was the release date for the i7 versions if I recall correctly with the Xeons coming out slightly later.
You're assuming thunderbolt requires a major design revision. It must require something at least in terms of fitting the ports in the case, but I'm not convinced it'll be anything too insane. Keep in mind intel is trying to push adoption through other oems as well in 2012.
I wouldn't expect Apple to have an Ivy setup in a MP before 2013 the way things have gone in the past. I guess at this point I hope they just keep up with the incremental updates.
You're probably right. Intel has been lagging
. I mean the Xeon versions may not even be out until near 2012 for Sandy Bridge. This may be a shrinking market for them. Right now the cost of a new one is just too much for what you really get.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not putting much stock into these rumours, but Xbox development teams have used Macs...An quote from J Allard (member of the 360 development team) about the relationship between them and Apple (an interview he did after the 360 had been announced):
J Allard said:
Right, let's not forget that Steve changed the names of the iBook and Powerbook to Macbook/Pro because they didn't include the word Mac. Doubt they'll just go all 180 on that.
Not yet. I know that it's easy to get caught up in new technology and think that the world will start shifting instantaneously to one direction or another but that's not going to happen with TB. Especially considering that most high end Mac Pro users want more cores, gfx cards and HDDs inside of their machine . . . not cluttering up their desk.
Heck even a guy like me that doesn't need a Mac Pro wants a Mac that has some internal expansion room so that my desk isn't cluttered with external devices.
Due or needed? That's always the big question.
Any ideas on what they'd need a redesign for? More HDD bays? One or Two 2.5" SSD slots (to reduce the need for brackets)? Quieter/cooler operation?