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bluush

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I have this as well. It's incredibly faint and I had to look at the screen while it was on that completely black youtube video, brightness all the way up, and in a pitch black room. I feel like at this point we're trying way too hard to find flaws that simply are not problematic in any real life scenario. In no way does this bother me, not even thinking of returning my mbp!
 

Anonymous Freak

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This happens on nearly all LCD designs occasionally. It is usually considered to be "within acceptable manufacturing margins", although Apple is a enough of a stickler that if it really bothers you, you could probably get them to replace it. (Heck, they gave extended warranty service on the original MacBook over purely visual defects - which I got to use to get an out-of-warranty mechanical defect fixed!)
 
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fokmik

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so the problem here, is about the light bleed for the LCD panels? or something else? the light literally can be seen around the bezels escaping ?
 

JPizzzle

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I'm sorry, but this shouldn't be accepted as a common LCD issue. Sure it happens, but my other LCD's and past macs don't do it so why should I accept it on the newest ones. Also, some people don't have it. I see the bleeding even if it's not just a black screen and would think this would be annoying in a dark setting (watching movies in bed for example).
 

DMoggo

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Mine has a tiny bit on outer left edge, I'm not getting into the exchange game for that, fully dark room, dark background and brightness jacked up is just not going to happen for me. Never would have seen it if I hadn't read this thread.

If dust somehow gets in as was mentioned we have a warranty and they will sort it.

My guess is nearly all have it but not many will notice.
 

DMoggo

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so the problem here, is about the light bleed for the LCD panels? or something else? the light literally can be seen around the bezels escaping ?

Light escaping from edge of bezel, not light bleed in the conventional sense. It looks like it's the rubber seal, if you push the rubber slightly where the leak is it goes away.
 

Marshall73

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thanks for the video, just tested my 15" and no light leaks. Also, very impressed with the uniformity of the backlight on this too, no light spots or leaks around the edges even at full brightness.
 

DMoggo

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Not many replies in this thread, either not widespread or people don't want to check........
 

tomviolence

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Not many replies in this thread, either not widespread or people don't want to check........
As per your remark, I checked on a 13" base NTB. And yeah, light escaping on the bezel (unevenly on all sides) when at full brightness in a pitch dark room with a pitch dark youtube video. That pretty much says it all. Who would watch anything really on full brightness on these machines (with their super bright screens) in a pitch dark room? Just lowering the brightness two units and it wasn’t visible anymore. This is such a non-issue imo.
 

SBruv

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Doing an exchange-will post results. Regardless, there are people on here without that issue, which means it should not be happening.

My 13" has it, left and right. Presumably it's down to the thinner bezel, and it certainly doesn't look like a 'fault'. I predict that you're going to be disappointed in your exchange…
 

JPizzzle

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My 13" has it, left and right. Presumably it's down to the thinner bezel, and it certainly doesn't look like a 'fault'. I predict that you're going to be disappointed in your exchange…

How is light coming out of the edges of a display that's visible in a dark room not a fault? I noticed it without having a full black screen. Seriously now, some people are spending $4k+ on a machine and accepting issues that aren't present on a $400 Dell.

If your ok with it, that's your decision. Doesn't matter to me, but if your in a store and they have one that you know doesn't have the leak and one that does, who would pick the one with the issue? The fact that there are members not experiencing this shows that it's a defect, and I don't think if I'm paying the same amount as someone else that I should receive a product that I notice has an issue if watching Netflix in a dark room or that I have to accommodate that issue by lowering the brightness. Just my opinion of course.
 
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SBruv

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How is light coming out of the edges of a display that's visible in a dark room not a fault? I noticed it without having a full black screen. Seriously now, some people are spending $4k+ on a machine and accepting issues that aren't present on a $400 Dell.

If your ok with it, that's your decision. Doesn't matter to me, but if your in a store and they have one that you know doesn't have the leak and one that does, who would pick the one with the issue? The fact that there are members not experiencing this shows that it's a defect, and I don't think if I'm paying the same amount as someone else that I should receive a product that I notice has an issue if watching Netflix in a dark room or that I have to accommodate that issue by lowering the brightness. Just my opinion of course.

Well, I'm intrigued as to what you think the fault actually is. Given that the backlight clearly stretches all the way to the very edges of the bezel for all of us, the only variable is the rubber seal that it's shining 'through'. It looks like incredibly small inconsistencies in the straightness or thickness of that seal to me, which – given the nature of manufacturing – are inevitable. Are you expecting all the keys on the keyboard to have absolutely no lateral movement to them as well? ;)

I'd have to see one that didn't have the 'issue' with my own eyes to believe it, tbh. We're hardly testing under controlled conditions here, are we?

And comparing it to other laptops is obviously irrelevant.

Like I say, I expect you'll be disappointed in your replacement.
 

JPizzzle

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Well, I'm intrigued as to what you think the fault actually is. Given that the backlight clearly stretches all the way to the very edges of the bezel for all of us, the only variable is the rubber seal that it's shining 'through'. It looks like incredibly small inconsistencies in the straightness or thickness of that seal to me, which – given the nature of manufacturing – are inevitable. Are you expecting all the keys on the keyboard to have absolutely no lateral movement to them as well? ;)

I'd have to see one that didn't have the 'issue' with my own eyes to believe it, tbh. We're hardly testing under controlled conditions here, are we?

And comparing it to other laptops is obviously irrelevant.

Like I say, I expect you'll be disappointed in your replacement.

To each his own I guess. We must have different expectations at this price point. Will post on my exchange.
 
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SBruv

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To each his own I guess. We must have different expectations at this price point. Will post on my exchange.

Oh, I have very high expectations at this price point, believe me. Dead pixels, light bleed, case creak, screen tint, wonky keys – you name it... I've played the OCD exchange game a million times over the last 15 years. I just don't consider this particular 'thing' to be even remotely outside design spec, due to the number of people confirming it and the fact that it just doesn't look like an issue.

But yes, each to their own! I'll be interested to hear how your exchange works out.

(And, of course, if it does turn out to be an entry point for dust, I'll absolutely concede that it's a fault! Can't imagine it will, though – I'll bet the seal is the same as ever; it'a just closer to the display now.)
 
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DMoggo

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It is each to their own and I do have high expectations but I not starting the exchange game for this, my machine is as good as I've had bar this issue, if dust does get in as has been mentioned they will absolutely know about it and I have no doubt they would rectify it as dust under the screen cannot be caused by the user.

Just out of interest is the screen one unit, if they changed the screen would the screen casing be changed or does it stick/glue into the housing?
 

intertialforce

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It is each to their own and I do have high expectations but I not starting the exchange game for this, my machine is as good as I've had bar this issue, if dust does get in as has been mentioned they will absolutely know about it and I have no doubt they would rectify it as dust under the screen cannot be caused by the user.

Just out of interest is the screen one unit, if they changed the screen would the screen casing be changed or does it stick/glue into the housing?

I believe it's one unit so they would swap the whole top shell. At least that's what they did with my 2012 rmbp when pixels started dying before the warranty was up.
 
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