I got one of the original iPhones, realized it was not made for me, and never got another one. Never got an iPad, either. Basically, I like the Mac because I like Unix; OS X is the ultimate user-friendly version of that OS...
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I got one of the original iPhones, realized it was not made for me, and never got another one. Never got an iPad, either. Basically, I like the Mac because I like Unix; OS X is the ultimate user-friendly version of that OS...
I can not remember a time when Mac's have been so ignored. Apple releases an updated OS with no new machines?
They have fluffed more bloatware and called it a improved OS.
You all that don't have iPads best get one cause macOS is getting to the end of the road IMHO.
They have fluffed more bloatware and called it a improved OS.
You all that don't have iPads best get one cause macOS is getting to the end of the road IMHO.
Nah, I have zero need for a tablet, nor for a totally-locked-down OS. The end of OS X is the end of Apple for me.
I can say something in defense of Apple and that is that they have added new features to their server OS so that I devices will able to grab and share off of it.
So maybe this indicates a resurgence of a Mac Mini server addition.
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"Nah, I have zero need for a tablet, nor for a totally-locked-down OS. The end of OS X is the end of Apple for me."
So it will be for me, too, if that day arrives.
Just wondering where I could go afterwards.
Windows -- I'm completely flummoxed by it, never used it, no understanding of it, and at my age, too old to "start over".
Linux -- a possibility. Lack of software seems like an issue. Troubleshooting would definitely be an issue.
Here's to hoping the Mac OS will hang around for at least 10 more years.
Perhaps if Apple is no longer interested in maintaining/developing it for computer-specific hardware they'll either put it up for sale or perhaps create a spinoff company to keep it going -- much as they did with "Claris" years ago.
In any case, I can probably keep going on this late-2012 Mac Mini for as long as the hardware holds up...
"Nah, I have zero need for a tablet, nor for a totally-locked-down OS. The end of OS X is the end of Apple for me."
So it will be for me, too, if that day arrives.
Just wondering where I could go afterwards.
Windows -- I'm completely flummoxed by it, never used it, no understanding of it, and at my age, too old to "start over".
Linux -- a possibility. Lack of software seems like an issue. Troubleshooting would definitely be an issue.
Here's to hoping the Mac OS will hang around for at least 10 more years.
Perhaps if Apple is no longer interested in maintaining/developing it for computer-specific hardware they'll either put it up for sale or perhaps create a spinoff company to keep it going -- much as they did with "Claris" years ago.
In any case, I can probably keep going on this late-2012 Mac Mini for as long as the hardware holds up...
Ah, I don't think anybody is ever too old to "start over".
But yeah, Windows does a few things differently, and it'd take some head-scratching to get used to the differences. I don't think it'd be that hard to switch, though.Lack of commercial software is definitely an issue, although less so than in the past. Some high-end applications are available, many are still not. But if you're willing to use non-commercial software, Linux has it all.
Troubleshooting could be a problem, but perhaps less than you might think. If you go with a very user-friendly distribution (Ubuntu is a good choice), you can minimize the amount of time you need to understand how to use the command-line. Also, OS X really is Unix, so you might be surprised by how much of Linux you already understand. (Particularly if you do any command-line work on OS X.)
One of the most annoying aspects I've found in modern Linux GUIs is that they're slowly giving up on making up their own user interface style, and instead simply stealing concepts from other OSs (particularly OS X). I've been getting acclimated to the current version of Ubuntu, which has:
- A bar across the top of the screen, containing the menu bar of the current app on the left, and the clock and some widgets on the right.
- A dock (across the side or bottom), with icons for your most popular apps on top/left (with a little dot showing which ones are running), and a trash can on the bottom/right.
- Utility applications, such as "System Settings", which when you open it looks identical to "System Preferences" in OS X.
So, you may find that some distributions may take very little effort to learn when coming from an OS X environment.
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Ah, I don't think anybody is ever too old to "start over".
The biggest problem with people and Windows are the options you can endlessly set.
Leave settings alone unless you have problems and you will have no problems.
I dunno if that's true any more. Choose a full-featured distribution (again, Ubuntu seems like a good choice to me), follow the instructions, and you should be just fine. Just because Linux allows you to do anything you want to do, doesn't mean that you have to do everything.
It's quite possible to just choose the applications you want, and avoid the command-line entirely these days if you're totally averse to it...
I dunno if that's true any more. Choose a full-featured distribution (again, Ubuntu seems like a good choice to me), follow the instructions, and you should be just fine. Just because Linux allows you to do anything you want to do, doesn't mean that you have to do everything.
Mint is another very easy Distro that offers all the featured apps you may want and is a favorite among newcomers.
Well, while I think Debian is a fine (and very well-supported!) distribution, I'm not entirely sure it's the best choice for newcomers. Debian holds to the Open Source principle with a religious zealousness, and as such you kinda need to understand the GNU world-view when you use it. I've read that Debian does now allow media encoded in mp3 and h.264 to be played (even though those codecs are still patent-protected, at least in the US), but I suspect that the average user will still run up against roadblocks whenever trying to use patent-protected software or media...
Agree about Mint being pretty good for newbies. It has gotten to the point where you no longer need to use the terminal. Changed days for when Linux users used to have to jump through hoops to get their win modem to work!
Haven't played with any skins/themes on Windows in over a decade, but there are mac OS ones out there...found an example here:
http://windows.wonderhowto.com/how-to/theme-windows-with-mac-os-x-ubuntu-other-skins-0164508/
Linux is great for stability...maybe the apps are there now. I think Ubuntu has become one of the most popular distros for home users.
Same mac mini (but also a couple MacBooks that I've managed to upgrade - no longer supported).
Don't you realize that iOS is a Unix-like system too? It's basically a more user-friendly version of macOS.
Hah! iOS may be built on top of the same kernel that OS X is, and therefore have elements of Unix below the surface, but no, I don't count it as Unix-like. For me, a Unix-like OS is one that follows the "Unix philosophy":
- Write programs that do one thing and do it well.
- Write programs to work together.
- Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface.
OS X counts here, because it provides a fully Unix-like environment alongside its very user-friendly GUI. iOS does not count, as it goes fully in the opposite direction: every app is an island unto itself, and is severely constrained by the OS. The user is even more severely constrained. Thus the forest of iApps that all perform similar tasks, none of them very well, none of them working together.
(Android is the same. Although it has a larger subset of Unix hiding beneath the surface, it's still turned its back on the Unix philosophy as a whole.)
Now, I'm not saying that iOS is wrong to do so! It is following a different philosophy; in fact, it adheres very closely to Steve Jobs' personal idea of how a computer should be used. And Apple has profited enormously from it!
All I'm saying is that the iOS philosophy is not for me.
So long as it's only dual core, and the crappiest iGPU possible. Apple will not allow people to choose a Mac Mini, when they can FORCE customers to go iMac or MBP to get needed CPU/GPU performance.
SMH
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With those prices of the iMac's and Macbooks because of their (retina) screens I rather keep working on my slow mac mini from early 2009... please apple, give me a reason to spend money on a computer again, give us a quad core mac mini (or introduce an other quad core option without screen that is not 3000 euros/dollars, like the only option we have now, the mac pro)
went bare bones and I ordered a dp to hdmi adapter from amazon working very nicely.
1 screw to open the case. I ordered 2 sticks of 16gb ram and soon will have it with 32gb of ram.
it will allow for a m2 ssd along with the ssd that came with it. but I can wait on that.
just to have this the way it is make the tinkering start again. So sad apple is slowly killing the desktop division.
As the iMac and mac pro are worthless for my needs. and the sad little mini has been left in the corner to starve to death.
It will be 128gb samsung ssd
32gb ram
pentium g4400t
and I have an i5 6400t cpu in a mining pc I can swap = free
plus add the m2 and finally is I want pull the current 128gb samsung ssd and add a 2tb ssd if I choose.
I spent 290 after coupons add the dongle for 11 is 301 add 127 for the ram = 428
Likewise; a 2009 Mac Mini and a basic $20 Nokia are the only tech gadgets that grace my life….. Edit; and an induction cooker. All else is pre-millennial.
Maybe so, but for folks who neither need nor desire them, they are irrelevant.
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They may well be, for people who have a use for them. I don't.
Gimme a break. The only thing I see iphones used for are (1) playing games on the bart and (2) taking pictures around san francisco. For that they pay $200 monthly connection fee. And the ipad I have never figured out. All the students and faculty I know have laptops. What is the ipad for?