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2016 nMP
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I wonder this too? Every couple of days I do a broadwell-EP google search just to make sure I haven't somehow missed some important news. Its seems oddly quiet after leaked specs, prices and the manufactures' sample benchmarks.
Right, the problem is that unlike those Westmeres, we haven't had much of a spec bump from intel to use. The only reasonable thing Apple could do is just drop the price. But that's so un-Apple.
I think the predictions now are Q2–– if these chips are released before WWDC and there is no update from Apple then we might be in trouble–– otherwise they could definitely do a fall or winter release like they did for the late 2013 mac pro.
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Well, they could have put Haswell-EP and the C612 chipset in there
Well, they could have put Haswell-EP and the C612 chipset in there
True, but that would actually take some work. More than just putting a new chip on the same socket, anyway, and too much for Apple apparently....
I know, I know
What I'm surprised about is why Apple doesn't design around new chipsets when they come out rather than wait for the second iteration of CPUs for a given chipset. If they just designed around sandy bridge-ep or haswell-ep then they could easily just do drop in CPU upgrades every ~1.5 years rather than going 3+ years without an update or price drop.
Dude, some people buy a special edition of a car just cause of badges and a bit of trim, or a body kit, no performance at all.
I suppose you consider say a 3 series coupe BMW to be the same as a M3 coupe, who looks at those minor differences in the same make and series eh.....and the exhaust in slightly bigger.....
As I pointed out, stick to computers guys and stop using car analogies, frankly you know a lot more about computers.
His car analogy was incorrect cause even NA cars benefit from a larger exhaust, so him saying you needed to go to a turbo to get any performance was incorrect, I could care less about the comparison to the AMD, from a motoring point of view it was incorrect.
Its not like the said individual does not spend their time also correcting people when it comes to computers
And I have to admit I actually admire his knowledge and respect his opinion, he knows his stuff Just not cars, but hey I spend 10 years working for a motoring magazine....
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/02/displayport-1-4-8k-usb-c/
I understand that it takes time, but HDR screens are a reality already and it seems strange that the upcoming nMP will not be able to support HDR on 4K/5K. Apple is always very proud of their screens, therefore I thought the new TB monitor would have supported HDR...
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I understand that it takes time, but HDR screens are a reality already and it seems strange that the upcoming nMP will not be able to support HDR on 4K/5K. Apple is always very proud of their screens, therefore I thought the new TB monitor would have supported HDR...
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Just hope that the update interval isn't ∞ ....
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Now you can't even see the trees for the leaves.Dude, some people buy a special edition of a car just cause of badges and a bit of trim, or a body kit, no performance at all.
I suppose you consider say a 3 series coupe BMW to be the same as a M3 coupe, who looks at those minor differences in the same make and series eh.....and the exhaust in slightly bigger.....
As I pointed out, stick to computers guys and stop using car analogies, frankly you know a lot more about computers.
His car analogy was incorrect cause even NA cars benefit from a larger exhaust, so him saying you needed to go to a turbo to get any performance was incorrect, I could care less about the comparison to the AMD, from a motoring point of view it was incorrect.
Its not like the said individual does not spend their time also correcting people when it comes to computers
Of course you did...Dude, some people buy a special edition of a car just cause of badges and a bit of trim, or a body kit, no performance at all.
I suppose you consider say a 3 series coupe BMW to be the same as a M3 coupe, who looks at those minor differences in the same make and series eh.....and the exhaust in slightly bigger.....
As I pointed out, stick to computers guys and stop using car analogies, frankly you know a lot more about computers.
His car analogy was incorrect cause even NA cars benefit from a larger exhaust, so him saying you needed to go to a turbo to get any performance was incorrect, I could care less about the comparison to the AMD, from a motoring point of view it was incorrect.
Its not like the said individual does not spend their time also correcting people when it comes to computers
You analogy was incorrect . Simple
Yes, I know what you meant, and yeah you supported your point, but in achieving that you used an example from a motoring perspective that was wrong. From a perspective buyers point.
Like I said, I respect your IT knowledge on this site, always have.
Anyway , this is off topic, feel free to have another leaves post, I'll ignore next one.
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I worked on the website supporting the magazine.
The anology is wrong on so many levels, from a motoring point of view.
I'd suggest learning about NA and turbo to begin with
classic mistake is that turbo = better performance....tsk tsk. FOR many turbo is like Mac v PC , now do you understand the picture YOU are missing with his anology.Meh....Stick to computers lads!!!
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It's not clear if DP1.3 devices can be "upgraded" to DP1.4 since there is no bandwidth improvement, it seems added compression was the main focus. This might allow devices, with a firmware update, to compress data as long as the display will also be able to decompress. But that seems a remote possibility though.
I wonder if 5K@60Hz HDR will be supported, with compression probably only.
[doublepost=1457001717][/doublepost]OK, HDR with compression:
http://anandtech.com/show/10110/ves...-14-standard-displayport-adds-compression-hdr
I wonder if 5K@60Hz HDR will be supported, with compression probably only.
[doublepost=1457001717][/doublepost]OK, HDR with compression:
http://anandtech.com/show/10110/ves...-14-standard-displayport-adds-compression-hdr
You analogy was incorrect . Simple
Yes, I know what you meant, and yeah you supported your point, but in achieving that you used an example from a motoring perspective that was wrong. From a perspective buyers point.
Like I said, I respect your IT knowledge on this site, always have.
Anyway , this is off topic, feel free to have another leaves post, I'll ignore next one.
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I worked on the website supporting the magazine.
The anology is wrong on so many levels, from a motoring point of view.
I'd suggest learning about NA and turbo to begin with
Meh....Stick to computers lads!!!
So you didn't work for the magazine... Check.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-gpuopen-fuels-2016mar02.aspx
http://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire...rcomputing-efforts-for-geoscience-leader-cgg/
Looks like the Boltzmann initiative works.
http://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire...rcomputing-efforts-for-geoscience-leader-cgg/
Looks like the Boltzmann initiative works.
That must leave a terrible taste in your mout then Koyoot... After years of saying that CUDA was irrelevant and posting blurb after blurb about how great OpenCL is/was...
Erm, What I was saying is: in OpenCL AMD GPUs are better than Nvidia cards are. All you want to do here is to pun, nothing else.
I even said, that with Metal Apple makes them door to put CUDA to OS X IF AMD goes bust. Now they are having even better possibility to just putting CUDA compiler into Metal and run it off on AMD GPUs.
Time will tell if it will have better effect. But that would not surprise me at all.
Quite a word salad you posted there...
You've been advocating for months that OpenCL was the best and greatest and that Cuda was a waste of time, just to realise that even Apple doesn't put that much faith in it as it is being phased out in favor of Metal and now you are posting about running Cuda on AMDs, someone is really confused here...
http://gpuopen.com/compute-product/hip-convert-cuda-to-portable-c-code/
So it works. Good to see it in real world implementation.
So it works. Good to see it in real world implementation.
Not much info on Polaris in AMD's AMA. Only DP1.3 confirmed.
[doublepost=1457033241][/doublepost]Kaby Lake being pushed to year end, coinciding with Zen. Deliberate or just another delay?
[doublepost=1457033498][/doublepost]KL Z270 chipset increases PCIe 3 lane count to 24.
[doublepost=1457033742][/doublepost]Honestly, I don't see the nMP coming any time soon anymore.
Polaris in the summer? Let's see if it will only be a paper launch.
BDW-EP seems to MIA too.
Maybe Apple is waiting on Skylake and Optane? By then, Polaris is out for sure and it will be a heck of a machine. But that would be another year...
[doublepost=1457033241][/doublepost]Kaby Lake being pushed to year end, coinciding with Zen. Deliberate or just another delay?
[doublepost=1457033498][/doublepost]KL Z270 chipset increases PCIe 3 lane count to 24.
[doublepost=1457033742][/doublepost]Honestly, I don't see the nMP coming any time soon anymore.
Polaris in the summer? Let's see if it will only be a paper launch.
BDW-EP seems to MIA too.
Maybe Apple is waiting on Skylake and Optane? By then, Polaris is out for sure and it will be a heck of a machine. But that would be another year...
http://www.trentonsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/Application-Note-HEP8225-Broadwell-Benchmarks.pdf Few Broadwell EP CPU benchmarks.
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