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2017 Formula 1 Season Thread
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One team always dominates whatever rule changes they put in. At least we have two teams capable of winning races now. Put a better engine in the Red Bull and McLaren and that would be four.
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I had to wit for the highlights which didn't start until late so kissed a bit to.
Lewis looked super quick coming from 20th to fourth.
With some back markers paying more attention to the blue flags, he could have got third.
Ferrari always threatens to quit. Bernie had a lot of respect for Ferrari so he always would find a way to appease them. We’ll see if Liberty handles them the same way.
The sport has been in bad shape for a while now with Red Bull’s dominance and now Mercedes. They just announced that the 2017 prize money will be less than 2016 because they didn’t make as much money this year. That should sound the alarm bells. I’m not crazy over Libertys 2021 proposal. It needs work.
Formula One is stuck in a bit of a vicious circle at the moment and liberty media inherited that. Less people worldwide are following/watching the sport in 2017 than they were 5 years ago. It all seemed to start when Bernie went after the quick dollar of securing deals with PPV channels back in 2011. It meant F1 got a big load of cash initially as these channels were offering double the amount to have shared or exclusive rights, but it slashed accessibility to fans. We’ve seen a steady decline in viewing figures throughout Europe where F1 has its core audience and this hasn’t gone unnoticed by sponsors.
Rob Dennis admitted a couple of years ago that sponsorship was becoming difficult as now teams are having to negotiate terms rather than sponsors handing over cash just for the privilege. Why pay massive money for less exposure? It’s now more of a niche sport than ever and in 2019 the full live coverage will be exclusive on Sky. Less than a million people will be watching races whereas in 2009/10/10 it was averaging 5.5 to 7m. France, Portugal and Germany have all seen the same pattern. Bernie’s legacy lives on lol.
A. I'm assuming you're having some sort of keyboard issue.
B. I'm to the point where I think that is how it is going to be all the time and I think I prefer it that way. Two or three teams fighting for wins would be fine but when you look at Indycar and see how wretched some of the races are and the teams that win are... Well it makes me appreciate F1 that much more.
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I was close: lap 8
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I think Brazil was a good example of how poor F1 has become. The start was exciting watching Vettel and Bottas fight into turn 1. It was exciting because if you watch F1, that might be the most action you see all day.
The main problem was Bottas could not even challenge Vettel. If he got too close, he would burn up his front tyres and then be under pressure from Raikkonen. So had no choice but to hang back and collect second place. A nice Sunday stroll. Same for Kimi, had to hang back and collect third. Another stroll.
The same thing was true for Hamilton. Started 20th but with a new engine, he obliterated the field. Until he caught Raikkonen, then the same thing happened. Get too close and the front tyres burn up. That's procedural racing and boring as all hell. I guess it really has become a management game. They have 200 engineers figuring out when is the best time to change your tyres to gain three hundredths of a second.
The main problem was Bottas could not even challenge Vettel. If he got too close, he would burn up his front tyres and then be under pressure from Raikkonen. So had no choice but to hang back and collect second place. A nice Sunday stroll. Same for Kimi, had to hang back and collect third. Another stroll.
The same thing was true for Hamilton. Started 20th but with a new engine, he obliterated the field. Until he caught Raikkonen, then the same thing happened. Get too close and the front tyres burn up. That's procedural racing and boring as all hell. I guess it really has become a management game. They have 200 engineers figuring out when is the best time to change your tyres to gain three hundredths of a second.
Agree 100%, although I think you're being a little harsh on Stroll
they need to rethink the aero packages so the we can have drafting again.
If this is true it makes for a wonderful story.
Not really looking forward to this weekends race. Abu Dhabi rarely produces a good race. Especially when it's all decided.
Kubica has a test in the 2017 car at Abu Dhabi so I am guessing if he is as quick in it (formwise) as he was in the 2014 model at his last test, the drive is his.
I’ll be skipping this one. The season is over and Abu Dhabi is about the dullest track on the calendar apart from Sochi. The season ender should be in Brazil IMO. They should hide the boring tracks in the middle of the season.
I believe Abu Dhabi pay a premium to have the last race. But it's rare for the title to be decided there.
The track and complex look amazing. Just wish that spent a bit more on designing a track that would produce a good race!
Abu Dhabi is definitely a boring race but the visuals are good. It’s a nice race to have on in the background while you sip on a coffee and get some work done.
Or browse MR!
Surprised Lewis didn't get pole. I'm still betting he gets the win though.
Between the two ME races, I think Bahrain is much cooler now that they have the colored lights to represent desert, trees and water. It really looks awesome from the overhead shots compared to Yaz (whose only real visual impact is the Viceroy Hotel's lighting).
RTLF1 reported this last weekend, however, Paddy Lowe tames down this information in today's story on motorsport.com:
Full story: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/lowe-williams-kubica-injuries-test-982827/
This isn't a classic is it. Apart from Stroll and Grojan batteling for 13th, it's a bit dull!
Didn't notice. Don't really care.
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Agree. Good win for Bottas. Dull race for everyone else.
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Alonso couldn't wait for this season to end.
Imagine if Honda trump Renault for power next season? He'd be gutted!
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