Utter total rubbish! The rules state Ocon should have MOVED out of the race leaders way. He should not have had to of made an overtaking move in the first place, let alone Ocon attack back and ran him!!!What a great, and exciting, race!
Whatever F1 has gotten wrong over the past few seasons, it certainly wasn't on display today. A truly thrilling race. Up until the last few seconds, we didn't know if Hamilton was going to be able to hold on. With 31 laps to go - I was pretty sure Verstappen was going to romp home to victory. And there always seemed to be the possibility of rain.
I'm sure Verstappen feels as if he had his victory stolen from him. And while that is true, there is also the fact that Verstappen didn't have to pass Ocon quite as aggressively as he did. If Lewis Hamilton had been in that position, I think he'd have given a back marker some more clearance, or waited till he could pass him in the open part of the circuit. I also give Hamilton, and Mercedes, great credit for nursing those tires through more than fifty laps.
Ferrari, despite a podium finish, didn't seem to be much of a factor today. I thought that their tire strategy, which the analysts made a big deal out of during qualifying, just didn't seem to work. Verstappen seemed to have pretty much no problem at all blasting by both Raikkonen and Vettel in the early laps. And subsequently passing Lewis Hamilton. It was great to see so much legitimate overtaking.
Red Bull got everything right in Brazil, except for one thing. Their headline driver made the sort of mistake a very aggressive, supremely talented 20-something racer would do.
All in all: Congrats to Hamilton and the Mercedes team.
Ocon is 100% at fault, but Max showed his lack of race craft. Just because you're right, doesn't mean you should have the accident anyway. When a backmarker pulls alongside you, tries to go around the outside, and hangs there afterwards, you know he's not going to back out. So why turn in? Even if you're right, you're going to have an accident. What's the point in being right whilst you're sitting backwards on the run off?
Ocon is at fault, but Max didn't read the situation at all. I feel bad for Max, but he could've avoided that. Ocon had signalled he was going to be a moron, so just give him a wide berth and you'll live for another day.
Backmarkers are allowed to unlap themselves. The blue flags are for slower cars being lapped. If Ocon had unlapped himself and then pulled away then it'd have been fine. And Max would've still been leading.
Ocon is 100% at fault, but Max showed his lack of race craft. Just because you're right, doesn't mean you should have the accident anyway. When a backmarker pulls alongside you, tries to go around the outside, and hangs there afterwards, you know he's not going to back out. So why turn in? Even if you're right, you're going to have an accident. What's the point in being right whilst you're sitting backwards on the run off?
Ocon is at fault, but Max didn't read the situation at all. I feel bad for Max, but he could've avoided that. Ocon had signalled he was going to be a moron, so just give him a wide berth and you'll live for another day.
Backmarkers are allowed to unlap themselves. The blue flags are for slower cars being lapped. If Ocon had unlapped himself and then pulled away then it'd have been fine. And Max would've still been leading.
That is exactly what Hamilton told him the cool down room. Max seemed to be very attentive. It was surprising to hear Lewis say that. Must be feeling his age.
I’m a Max fan. I think he’s the best thing to happen to F1 since Lewis and Vettel. But that doesn’t mean I think he is perfect.
Ocon was 100% in the wrong. Max was 100% in the right. But Max has the opportunity to avoid that accident and keep the lead and he didn’t take it. Ocon was a moron but he sign posted his stupidity extremely early and Max didn’t read he sign.
Max was 100% right to do what he did. He did absolutely nothing “wrong”. But it’s no use being wrong when you’re backwards with a damaged car. Let the idiot who was actually in the wrong make the stupid move and deal with him later. Your priority is keeping the car in the lead of the race, undamaged. That’s called race craft.
Lewis saying it is a perfect example because he used to be like Max back in the day. He had an incident with Maldonado at Valencia which was similar. Lewis was 100% right but Pastor took him out anyway. Lewis learned from that and now let’s people make stupid moves and he doesn’t get mixed up in it.
Being a racing driver isn’t about doing something because you’re right. It’s about getting the car to the end of the race. If this attitude of “I’m right, I’ll do what I want” happened in sportscar racing then nobody would ever finish Le Mans. Be smart, let idiots be idiots and don’t get caught up in stupidity. Watch the Nürburgring 24 and tell me how many accidents were avoided by the driver in the right.
Still think Max is awesome. He’s just young. He’s learnt that lesson the same way Lewis did. He’s got plenty more wins in his future and he’ll survive future moves learning from this.
Utter total rubbish! The rules state Ocon should have MOVED out of the race leaders way. He should not have had to of made an overtaking move in the first place, let alone Ocon attack back and ran him!!!.
In F1 racing, as in many other situations in life, it is possible to be 100% legally right, and still end up losing.
The stewards could have given Ocon a 1-minute penalty. They could have black-flagged him or given him a race suspension. But they simply could not move Max Verstappen ahead of Lewis Hamilton by so much as a second.
Verstappen made a mistake. That's what maturity and experience teach drivers like Hamilton. That when passing back-markers you need to be extra careful. You need to keep your eye on the big picture. That sometimes you don't need to be a "hero", that nobody really would have cared if Verstappen beat Hamilton by 5 seconds or 55 seconds. Verstappen should have been patient. Hamilton wasn't catching up to him. With Hamilton's tire situation that simply wasn't going to happen.
Compare Verstappen's action passing Ocon with the way Hamilton dealt with back-markers when he had regained the lead, and Verstappen actually was catching up to him. Super, super careful.
Imagine Verstappen really did catch and pass Hamilton on lap 67. Hamilton would be disappointed not to have won the race. But still better for his record, and his team's Constructors Championship, to finish the race high in the points, rather than spin out trying to rush your way past a lapped back marker.
I think it was Nicki Lauda who said it: The best way to win an F1 race is to do it as slowly as possible.
Christian Horner has some work to do over the off-season. Verstappen is an incredible talent and likely the future of F1. But he's still got some growing up to do.
And yet again you’ve blamed Max stereotyping him because it’s Max, despite the fact he did NOTHING WRONG WHAT SO EVER!!
But you keep on stereotyping him and making excuses for Ocon, despite as every, single, ex F1 driver and F1 champion including Damon Hill on Sky sports has ONLY blamed Ocon and not blamed Max ONE BIT!
I’ll take what they say over anyone else’s opinions, as all these F1 drivers and champions stared you do NOT expect a back market to lunge at you!
Max and Red Bull we’re racing as per the rules, yet somehow it’s their fault a back marker chose to ignore those rules and rammed them off the track...
And yet again you’ve blamed Max stereotyping him because it’s Max, despite the fact he did NOTHING WRONG WHAT SO EVER!!.
Great little win off the back of Verstappen’s bad luck or Lewis, what was Ocon doing? Should have given him a wide berth until the corner was finished though so Max judged poorly there I think. He should also have a talking to for acting like a dick in the weigh room too. Entertaining for us though lol. I always say Max is a great talent and if he lands the eighth drive at the right time he’ll be a WDC. However he’s not getting rid of this immaturity any time soon and he needs to realise it needs to go.
What do you want me to say?
The best possible reading is that Verstappen was very unlucky to have made contact with Ocon. If that's the case, then I'd say that pretty much every F1 driver sometimes gets unlucky. Lewis Hamilton has had power units fails on him. So has Sebastian Vettel, Ricciardo, etc etc. Bad luck happens.
Was Lewis Hamilton lucky that today Verstappen collided with Ocon? Absolutely. But its also true that Hamilton took that good luck and made the most of it. But was it also bad luck that put Hamilton on a tire set that wasn't ideal for the race down at Interlagos? I mean, all things being equal, Hamilton qualified faster than Verstappen and Ricciardo, Vettel and Raikkonen.
I wouldn't have been mad if Max Verstappen had won in Brazil. By all reasonable standards, he deserved the win. But he didn't. IMHO Verstappen screwed up by being too aggressive passing backmarkers.
It's quite acceptable to disagree with that opinion. But it's not going to change the outcome. If Verstappen were smart he'd learn something from this. But if he decides to simply blame his failure 100% on somebody else - then it's (long term) going to impact his ability to be an F1 Champion.
While Ocon has been oportioned blame universally, Martin Brundle definitely talked about Max not needing to be involved to have an incident. Ocon was clearly on a mission and certainly should’ve been more careful, but Max should also have seen what was going on.
On this note I’m not sure Max’s attitude will change anytime soon. The Red Bull attitude or Helmut Marko, Christian Horner and Jos all fuel Max’s entitled mood and I can’t see this changing anytime soon. An interesting thing, for example, from Mexico was that the hydraulics failure from Ricciardo was a Red Bull part, and it is clear that the packaging of the Red Bull contributes to their reliability issues, but this is rarely acknowledged.
But that’s like saying Max should ignore the racing rules and presume the other driver will always ignore them!
How about you stop ignoring the rules of F1, stop stereotyping and blaming Max. But you won’t so no point in saying it.
Max did absolutely nothing wrong, yet because it’s him everybody just blames him and ignores the F1 rules on overtaking.
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I never heard Brindle say that, he totally blamed Ocon, even more so after seeing the video again. He said Ocon had no right to charge at Max like that.