Beat me to the punch. Slower than a 2017 pro due to throttling? Lol
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2018 i9 MacBook Pro throttling discussion [merged]
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there you go ..... now wait for the "not optimized for 8th gen chip" "not optimized for more than 4 core" defenders....
[doublepost=1531870287][/doublepost]TLDR : put in freezer to get full potential ! LOL
[doublepost=1531870287][/doublepost]TLDR : put in freezer to get full potential ! LOL
This is REALLY bad. The i9 2.9ghz cannot even maintain the base speed of the i7 2.2ghz when under load, which makes the higher clock speed and turbo completely useless.
Long story short, the 2.9ghz i9 is much worse than the 2.2ghz i7.
Long story short, the 2.9ghz i9 is much worse than the 2.2ghz i7.
I was considering purchasing the i9. When I clicked the “Which processor is right for you?” above the processors on the configuration page, I noticed that Apple stated, “Upgrading to the Intel Core i9 processor will take your speeds even higher. The i9 features Thermal Velocity Boost, which enables the CPU to opportunistically turbo up to 4.8GHz when workloads and system thermals allow.”
I really, really want to get the i9. It’s the most top of line CPU they’ve released in the MBP relative to the time in a long while.
... but that’s just bad. Hoping a couple other reviews hit in the coming days to say otherwise. Doubt it; but if true, really don’t understand buying the i9 under any circumstance.
... but that’s just bad. Hoping a couple other reviews hit in the coming days to say otherwise. Doubt it; but if true, really don’t understand buying the i9 under any circumstance.
Looks like I will be returning i9 2.9 for an i7 2.2 model with a bigger SSD.
I really like Dave 2D videos, and I appreciate where he's coming from especially as a Mac fan.
In all honesty, I was worried about that the i9 was going to have thermal issues in the extremely thin case. What's really disappointing is Apple releasing a laptop configuration that they had to know was going to run too hot. Its possible that Dave2D got a defective unit, but that's unlikely when we have another video detailing the throttling.
In all honesty, I was worried about that the i9 was going to have thermal issues in the extremely thin case. What's really disappointing is Apple releasing a laptop configuration that they had to know was going to run too hot. Its possible that Dave2D got a defective unit, but that's unlikely when we have another video detailing the throttling.
I really wish someone reviews the 2.6 i7 since this is what I am planning to go for. Unfortunately all YouTubers want to just flex their wallets showing those i9s with 4 TB storage :/
Having watched the D2D video, another victim it seems to the powerful Coffeelake chips? Some Window laptops have also suffered a similar fate with a thin chassis.
Could software/OS updates help? Eg a more aggressive fan profile?
After seeing the crazy improvements D2D got when he used a freezer, I am tempted to add a mobile freezer in my desk or some kind of air conditioning solution
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Wonder if the 13” i7 or 15” i7 has any similar issues - or is this strictly an i9 issue?
Could software/OS updates help? Eg a more aggressive fan profile?
After seeing the crazy improvements D2D got when he used a freezer, I am tempted to add a mobile freezer in my desk or some kind of air conditioning solution
.Wonder if the 13” i7 or 15” i7 has any similar issues - or is this strictly an i9 issue?
ROFL. What even is the point of the 'not optimized' crowd? Using more cores uses more heat, if it's not using all of the cores it's going to even have MORE heating issues when it does
The Intel 8th gen has consistently ran hotter across the board to begin with. Intel did a half assed update and stole AMDs 'moar cores!' plan of attack when AMD finally got some good competition going...
The Intel 8th gen has consistently ran hotter across the board to begin with. Intel did a half assed update and stole AMDs 'moar cores!' plan of attack when AMD finally got some good competition going...
hm. things are not looking good indeed.
these substantial heat/throttling issues seem to be present at the 13'' model too:
source: https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Apple-MacBook-Pro-13-2018-Touch-Bar-i5-Laptop.316002.0.html
(the link is in german)
they tested the base(!) 2018 quadcore-model.
these substantial heat/throttling issues seem to be present at the 13'' model too:
source: https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Apple-MacBook-Pro-13-2018-Touch-Bar-i5-Laptop.316002.0.html
(the link is in german)
they tested the base(!) 2018 quadcore-model.
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I will assume that you are joking.
Nevertheless, i9 chips with 6 cores can run 12 threads and any modern quad core i7 chip can run 8 threads.
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ROFL. What even is the point of the 'not optimized' crowd? Using more cores uses more heat, if it's not using all of the cores it's going to even have MORE heating issues when it does
The Intel 8th gen has consistently ran hotter across the board to begin with. Intel did a half assed update and stole AMDs 'moar cores!' plan of attack when AMD finally got some good competition going...
Indeed.
Everyone is blinded by the fact Dave2D is using Premiere instead of FCPX.
Guess what? It doesn't matter.
He only needed something to put the processor to work that would produce a baseline result to compare. He could have used a program to calculate Pi digits. The problem here is heat, not software optimization.
The i7 still has 6 cores and isn't that much different from the i9, guarantee in that small laptop it's gonna have throttling issues too...
it most likely will but then there is no other option for him, he already sold his 2017.
I wish someone can do a comparison between the i7 base and the i9, maybe it's just a general 8th gen CPU issues that's happening in all models instead of just the i9? Need more tests.
Oof. BRUTAL.
Guess I just saved myself $3,000. Vegas, baby!!
Guess I just saved myself $3,000. Vegas, baby!!
I have the 2.2ghz base 15" and I got thermal throttling during a Cinebench benchmark.. Within about 20 seconds. Screenshot of it below (just got the screenshot in time to catch the start of the test at the far left - obviously the test ended when the frequency went back up):
