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2018 MBP Screen Color Uniformity
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This is BS. Alienware has even higher pixel count and uniformity is near perfect. It was cheaper too!
The problem with Apple is the thin display assembly.
The panel is fine, but the light has to diffuse evenly over the backplane of the display.
If there is not enough room for diffusing the light, you get uneven lighting.
Other laptop brands habe thicker displays.
You can exchange as often as you wish.
Apple has made this design as thin as possible. This is why it has no margin for error.
iPads have the same issue.
The panel is fine, but the light has to diffuse evenly over the backplane of the display.
If there is not enough room for diffusing the light, you get uneven lighting.
Other laptop brands habe thicker displays.
You can exchange as often as you wish.
Apple has made this design as thin as possible. This is why it has no margin for error.
iPads have the same issue.
It’s not the thin issue nor light issue.
This same exact problem also existed in all LG panels. Particularly the cheaper one.
Here are the ultimate questions guys and gals -
1. Is this inconsistent panel being used in the 15-inch model A040? This seems to be predominately the one being used in the latest 15 inchers from what I can tell in the stores I've seen them in.
2. If it's just the model A040 panel for the 15-inchers, who's making that panel? Assuming LG here, but how does one know for sure?
3. What panel model in the 13-inch? And does that panel have the same uniformity issues?
1. Is this inconsistent panel being used in the 15-inch model A040? This seems to be predominately the one being used in the latest 15 inchers from what I can tell in the stores I've seen them in.
2. If it's just the model A040 panel for the 15-inchers, who's making that panel? Assuming LG here, but how does one know for sure?
3. What panel model in the 13-inch? And does that panel have the same uniformity issues?
>>I've tested 5 2018 "13" TB and they all had A03E panels (All had PWM flicker but that's a different issue)
maby uniformity of horrible false colors
At least it can display the same color on one side of the screen as the other.
It is a bit of a lottery but there are ok screens out there. My first iPad (3rd gen when the introduced the Retina display) had the pink/green shift. Was worried I was being nitpicky exchanging it but I did anyway. And the replacement screen had no issues, so I’m glad I did.
Also my current 2018 MacBook Pro has a fine screen. I say it’s worth at least trying a swap if issues are evident from the get go.
Also my current 2018 MacBook Pro has a fine screen. I say it’s worth at least trying a swap if issues are evident from the get go.
But how many swaps! I've done one swap. Should I do 3, 4, 5? I have little hope honestly!
I could get a worse one if I try again!
[doublepost=1545826540][/doublepost]Here's a question. Are the Air's or the 13 inch models better?
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according to opinions and pictures from this forum, Air screen is even more inferior
I think if my third sucks I’ll just get a low end Mac and stick with a PC for the high end. Not paying 3 grand and have the left side of the screen look purple.
I have just exchanged mine with another model from the shop... the display is from the same manufacturer but it had Sierra on it (my previous had Mojave) - I guess it is a older manufacturing date then... end of story: Problem is solved - display is good (despite a slightly darker right side). I am very happy now that I have exchanged it - peace of mind finally.
Silly question - were both space gray? I read somewhere that the silver models didn't exhibit these problems as much. I don't know if it was that batch or was because people choose space grey more so there's more demand to pump out those units? It sounds so silly, I can't believe I'm writing this, sigh...
My 2018 15" space gray bought at launch has what I consider a perfect screen - white and even. My 2016 15" space gray had a screen with a left pink to right blue color shift (best of 3 devices I tried). I think getting a good screen is still a lottery unfortunately.
Both of ours (1 silver and 1 space grey) have perfect displays. The 2018 15" I just sold had a perfect display as well. Nice, even bright colors.
The 18 MBA we returned had a great display as well. Not as bright as the MBP, but was nice. Problem was the computer had a hardware bug that Apple wanted back. 2 replacements, and both had very dim and dull looking screens. Gave up in the end and bought the wife her 18 MBP instead.
The 18 MBA we returned had a great display as well. Not as bright as the MBP, but was nice. Problem was the computer had a hardware bug that Apple wanted back. 2 replacements, and both had very dim and dull looking screens. Gave up in the end and bought the wife her 18 MBP instead.
I might be wrong but I suspect that most who think they have good screens just don't notice the problems. I noticed that my screen is uneven while reading a word document full screen. I then used the LCD uniformity test on youtube to confirm the problem. But I know my wife would never have noticed the problem in the first place or cared if she had. Her screen is horrible, I mean HORRIBLE, on her dell, and she doesn't care. I think I am more of a perfectionist with high standards than most. I'm the kind of person who will return a nice watch if an hour marker is misaligned.
From my perspective expensive products should meet a high standard. Companies use return data to maximize profits. They will cut corners if only a small percentage care and the savings are worth it. That's how they think. But instead they should have pride in their products and take a cut to their profits to meet respectable standards. No self-respecting computer company would sell you a 3 grand laptop with easily noticeable screen problems. Similarly, no self-respecting watch company would sell you a 3 grand watch with an hour marker misaligned. Maybe they can get away with it; maybe it's even profitable for them to act this way, but it's not acceptable. They are disrespecting their costumers and taking advantage of their naiveté. Just because people have low standards doesn't mean you should Apple!
Anyway, it's also possible that inflation is way worse than the government reports and these bad screens are in effect due to companies trying to maintain profits in the face of a failing currency? I don't remember having these problems 10 years ago. So, something has changed. You'd think the screen tech would be better today, not worse.
From my perspective expensive products should meet a high standard. Companies use return data to maximize profits. They will cut corners if only a small percentage care and the savings are worth it. That's how they think. But instead they should have pride in their products and take a cut to their profits to meet respectable standards. No self-respecting computer company would sell you a 3 grand laptop with easily noticeable screen problems. Similarly, no self-respecting watch company would sell you a 3 grand watch with an hour marker misaligned. Maybe they can get away with it; maybe it's even profitable for them to act this way, but it's not acceptable. They are disrespecting their costumers and taking advantage of their naiveté. Just because people have low standards doesn't mean you should Apple!
Anyway, it's also possible that inflation is way worse than the government reports and these bad screens are in effect due to companies trying to maintain profits in the face of a failing currency? I don't remember having these problems 10 years ago. So, something has changed. You'd think the screen tech would be better today, not worse.
Some people are oblivious! On the other hand, this is a noticeable problem. So some people like Gamer-Dad and bevsb2 probably know what they're looking at.
If my third is good I’ll believe this. If 3/3 are bad, I’m sticking with my hypothesis.
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If my third is good I’ll believe this. If 3/3 are bad, I’m sticking with my hypothesis.
My third arrives tomorrow. I’ll report back.
I did see one near perfect at John Lewis. I ran the lcd uniformity test on YouTube and took mine out of my bag and compared directly. But these near perfect machines may be few and far between.
Maybe I’ll get lucky tomorrow!
Okay guys. Good news! I got my third machine today and so far so good. The screen is not perfect. People who are striving for perfection with LCD screens are never going to be happy with what Apple offers. However, the screen is noticeable better and this is particularly obvious when I take a photo. If you compare the top right corner on pic 1254 to the same area in pic 1255, you can see that in the former the purple/dirty color is noticeably attenuated. Now, keep in mind these photos make the screen look much worse than it looks to the human eye, but the photos do interestingly capture the problems and can be compared. It just makes all the problems look worse than they look to the eye.
What I'm going for is a screen uniform enough not to notice in normal use. I don't care than I can see issues with the special image when taking a photo. However, the better the screen does on the test the more likely I won't be able to notice the issues when browsing the web or working on a Word document. It's really annoying being able to see a purplish left compared to a much whiter right when you're using your 3 GRAND FREAKING LAPTOP FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!
What I'm going for is a screen uniform enough not to notice in normal use. I don't care than I can see issues with the special image when taking a photo. However, the better the screen does on the test the more likely I won't be able to notice the issues when browsing the web or working on a Word document. It's really annoying being able to see a purplish left compared to a much whiter right when you're using your 3 GRAND FREAKING LAPTOP FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!
