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There's practically zero CPU load and you are almost at 60 Celsius.
Nothing normal about it. Well not in the real world at least.

In clamshell I am at 45 max and laptop alone can go under 40 on idle.
Huge difference for zero activity.

Wasn't the 2015 15 inch with dGPU running at 60C when idle with external monitor as well?
 
Wait, so you're not using the CPU when the computer is on and running apps? When do you actually use a CPU then?
You know what I mean. It's an 8 core processor. I might as well have a quad core; there's no point since the Radeon sucks up the wattage that would others go to the processor, and fans at 5,600 RPM are... well, you've read this thread.
 
This is a Joke!...
Just bought an MBP 16' i7, 16 ram and when i'm connected to a simple 1080 Samsung Monitor, the Fan goes CRAZY!!.. Noisy and hot as hell!..

APPLE NEEDS TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE!!

DAMN I'm pissed off!

Did you let it finish indexing?

It's going to build the Spotlight database for awhile - so expect fans to go on, it to get hot - that's normal for Macs. They ALL do that, and have for years.

I have the i9 version, and it did the same thing for a few hours.
 
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In Win10, with bootcamp.com drivers installed and with an external monitor connected I get 3.0W GPU power draw.
But to get 3.0W I have to set the MBP's resolution to anything equal to 2048x1280 or under. The external monitor I am using is 1080p and is connected via USB C to HDMI.

My conclusion is that, this problem is 100% a DRIVER problem.
EDIT: This is with the laptop lid OPEN!!
 
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In Win10, with bootcamp.com drivers installed and with an external monitor connected I get 3.0W GPU power draw.
But to get 3.0W I have to set the MBP's resolution to anything equal to 2048x1280 or under. The external monitor I am using is 1080p and is connected via USB C to HDMI.

My conclusion is that, this problem is 100% a DRIVER problem.
EDIT: This is with the laptop lid OPEN!!

what is the draw at 4K res?
 
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In Win10, with bootcamp.com drivers installed and with an external monitor connected I get 3.0W GPU power draw.
But to get 3.0W I have to set the MBP's resolution to anything equal to 2048x1280 or under. The external monitor I am using is 1080p and is connected via USB C to HDMI.

My conclusion is that, this problem is 100% a DRIVER problem.
EDIT: This is with the laptop lid OPEN!!

That's incredible. Print this out and mail it to Tim Cook.
 
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In Win10, with bootcamp.com drivers installed and with an external monitor connected I get 3.0W GPU power draw.
But to get 3.0W I have to set the MBP's resolution to anything equal to 2048x1280 or under. The external monitor I am using is 1080p and is connected via USB C to HDMI.

My conclusion is that, this problem is 100% a DRIVER problem.
EDIT: This is with the laptop lid OPEN!!

If this is true I'm just gonna run Win10 on my 16" MBP full time LOL! 🙏🙏🙏

The setup I want is lid open + 1080p external monitor 🙏🙏🙏
 
If this is true I'm just gonna run Win10 on my 16" MBP full time LOL! 🙏🙏🙏

The setup I want is lid open + 1080p external monitor 🙏🙏🙏
Make sure to get Adrenalin January Blue 2020 edition, from bootcampdrivers.com. The April ones are buggy. I use the Jan drivers and I like it.
 
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In Win10, with bootcamp.com drivers installed and with an external monitor connected I get 3.0W GPU power draw.
But to get 3.0W I have to set the MBP's resolution to anything equal to 2048x1280 or under. The external monitor I am using is 1080p and is connected via USB C to HDMI.

My conclusion is that, this problem is 100% a DRIVER problem.
EDIT: This is with the laptop lid OPEN!!
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In Win10, with bootcamp.com drivers installed and with an external monitor connected I get 3.0W GPU power draw.
But to get 3.0W I have to set the MBP's resolution to anything equal to 2048x1280 or under. The external monitor I am using is 1080p and is connected via USB C to HDMI.

My conclusion is that, this problem is 100% a DRIVER problem.
EDIT: This is with the laptop lid OPEN!!
I told you guys, it's a driver issue! Our resolution hacks with lid closed also indicate that's the driver issue.
The other users were reporting the same behaviour under Windows.
I will be testing mine this weekend 🤞

Such things happen when you update drivers once in 2-3 years like Apple does.
macOS sucks, the drivers and performance sucks, only the UI is great, sadly... :/
 
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Wasn't the 2015 15 inch with dGPU running at 60C when idle with external monitor as well?
I have a 2015 15" MBP without dGPU and it is currently at around 55° without external display… Some apps are opened, including Chrome with lots of tabs, but nothing "active". CPU activity is about 5%.
 
someone should show this on a youtube video, or a call to Apple support.
Yeah, I think that comparison will look nasty and hilarious at the same time...
macOS will look bad and like heavy unoptimised OS and we are paying extra $$$ for it...
Now it looks like it is better to run Windows on it! Just hilarious!

Apple ignorance and arrogance is well known, last mbp keyboards fiasco, missing nvidia gpu rant, amd drivers problems for Mac Pro. Users were waiting 1-2 years to apple fix the frame buffers...
 
It's pretty embarrassing that all these tech bloggers and you tubers haven't made a video about this. The Windows/Apple comparison is hilarious.

In fact, I haven't seen a single video on Youtube that shows real world everyday use. The benchmark videos are so usefulness.
 
Windows vs Apple is irrelevant. Its not about how beautiful an OS looks like.
Apple as an eco system windows cannot offer. And if you want this you have no other choice. The other thing is if you have to use macos for development/design/photo/video it doesn't matter what you like or not like.
 
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