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(2019) 16" is HOT & NOISY with an external monitor! :(
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after more use the issue actually seems about ~50% improved. it's probably mostly software but maybe with the new logic board, cpu, video card they did something internally to improve the situation.
What is your MacBook Pro 16 inch configuration?
I just returned a 2.3G i9 5500M 8GB (that runs hot), and ordered a 2.6G i7 with 5600M 8GB instead. Will see how it goes next week.
My old MacBook 15 Touch Bar (2016) GPU runs at 10-11W with LG5k plus internal monitor. But the battery swelled second time. Likely because I use it mostly plugin with external monitors. I just found the AlDente app that can manage battery full charging percentage, hope it will help in the future.
Can you tell us what is the GPU power consumption via istats? is it still around 18 watts?
It's fundamentally flawed and seriously defective.
I just received a Dell D6000 to connect my three monitors (2 x 1440p using DP, 1 x 1080p using HDMI) all running at 60hz and it does reduce the overall power consumption by 10W, making the fans runs at 2300 RPM while playing a 1080p video on one screen, which is virtually silent in my case. Macbook lid is closed.
However the 2 display port screens lag one frame behind the HDMI one and I noticed it right away while moving the mouse. I'm not sure if I can get used to it. I just bought this 200$ dock to eliminate the fan noise but I feel like I just downgraded my setup. I also feel like the refresh rate is below 60hz on these screens when I move some windows around.
By the way, I think the HDMI plugged in the D6000 act just like it was plugged directly on the Macbook. It consumes 7W on the dGPU even thought it's plugged in the dock, and if I open the lid, I get the "standard" 18W as well. Also the HDMI screen works without starting the DisplayLink app while the DP ones dont.
Pretty sure I'm returning the dock, and maybe the whole macbook as well, this is so frustrating.
However the 2 display port screens lag one frame behind the HDMI one and I noticed it right away while moving the mouse. I'm not sure if I can get used to it. I just bought this 200$ dock to eliminate the fan noise but I feel like I just downgraded my setup. I also feel like the refresh rate is below 60hz on these screens when I move some windows around.
By the way, I think the HDMI plugged in the D6000 act just like it was plugged directly on the Macbook. It consumes 7W on the dGPU even thought it's plugged in the dock, and if I open the lid, I get the "standard" 18W as well. Also the HDMI screen works without starting the DisplayLink app while the DP ones dont.
Pretty sure I'm returning the dock, and maybe the whole macbook as well, this is so frustrating.
I don't have that app - I do have turbo boost app that does some monitoring. Not sure if that's helpful. (side note I had turbo Enabled on my tests)
This is on a 2015 MBP with AMD GPU. I have been running with a 4K + QHD display and normal temps with nothing running is about 52 degrees. I took the 4K off today and normal temps are 39 degrees. So 4K adds a pretty big thermal load on an older MacBook Pro. Just a data point.
Do you think they maybe put in a 5600AMD graphics card during the repair? That would be dope
Here is someone claiming to have no problems running his 16" (base model) lid open with 2 external 4K monitors (read all comments attached):
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Lid open, two external monitors, windows 10 via bootcamp: only 10W!
It's a driver issue, there is no other way.
It's a driver issue, there is no other way.
If it's a driver issue I really don't understand why there is no fix from Apple.
What GPU options do you guys expect to see in an updated 16" (it WILL come out one day)?
It's reasonable to believe that the new GPUs will have correct drivers from the start.
My guess is they will only refresh the 16" with the 10th gen Intel CPU and Wifi 10 at the october event but with the same AMD dGPU options and will have the same heat / fan noise as of now. So when the Apple Silicon comes out in 2021 for the Macbook pro they can say it runs so much cooler and silent than with Intel+AMD chips.
I wonder if there is a chance that upcoming Big Sur will fix/improve the situation? Has anyone tested mb16 with an e-monitor on beta?
Googling "big sur site:https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-is-hot-noisy-with-an-external-monitor.2211747"
produces the following:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-is-hot-noisy-with-an-external-monitor.2211747/page-84
Nothing changed in macOS Big Sur :-(
Too much bugs, runs hot and still ~18W with external monitor.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-is-hot-noisy-with-an-external-monitor.2211747/page-131
Big Sur definitely hasn't helped.
I think this is quite likely. They will want the Apple Silicon machines to look revolutionary. You can expect any upgrades to the current machine to be a gesture at best, which is a shame.
Ignoring any possible performance upgrades, I wonder if the Intel macbook pro will end with a crappy720p webcam! In a covid19 world, that webcam is clearly substandard!
Same problem. Macbook pro 16 with AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB. but I always work with lid closed. my old monitor dell u2518d even with lid closed was 18W at 2560x1440! WTF. HiDPI fixed it.
Now got new dell 4K u2720Q and with lid closed 5W.
Now got new dell 4K u2720Q and with lid closed 5W.