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Tsepz

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I mean I still think the screen is much nicer than the 2020 screen even if theres a slight shadow in some situations, so I will be able to enjoy the gen 1 Mini-LED for a year until the next gen comes out.
As long as it is bearable that is good, you will probably get used to it and in 2 months completely forgotten until you open MR again ?

I remember the early days of OLED on Nokia N85 and N8-00, this MiniLED issue is kids play compared to what early OLED was, you could not even use early OLED phones in the sun, they were pretty much useless.
 

gsal

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That is truly horrible. This is always the issue with the 1st batch of gen 1 devices, they come with a few problems, I will happily keep my 2020 iPP and make the jump to M series chips next year with the gen 2 MiniLED when Apple have figured this out and puts it into the 11inch form.

Dieter from The Verge was the first YouTuber I saw mentioning this in the first batch of reviews that came out this week, a lot of YouTubers either overlooked this or glossed over it, Dieter actually made it known that there is something off.

If I do end up getting a 2021 iPP when iPad OS 15 arrives, then I’ll just opt for the 2021 11”.

Hopefully a software update can reduce it somewhat. No display will ever be perfect I guess, but this looks like something Apple will need to sort out, if not now then in the 2022 iPP.
That photo is in no way representative of real world viewing. I cannot see any perceivable “blooming” on mine.

You get this effect only through photos.
 

isoft7

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Enjoy your new beast! :D

Thanks! Yeah, I am actually really looking forward to the new screen tech on the 11", and will probably upgrade again at that point. Plus I expect Apple will have the lamination of this tech fully fleshed out by that point.
 
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masotime

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Never buy hardware with the expectation its issues will be corrected in software... if they can do something with software all the better, but if they can't, and this is a deal-breaker for some, they'd better return the device while they can...

Tell that to all the Tesla buyers raving about the continual updates their car gets....
 

isoft7

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Kicking around the interwebs this morning it's obvious this is taking hold with certain demographics... apple haters, opportunists, etc.

It's no doubt within a day or two we're going to see YouTube full of "WTF APPLE!?!?!!" videos from semi-famous "reviewers" trying to get those cash rich clicks.

The irony is to 97% of users its something they probably wouldn't even notice, let alone care about, but it'll blow up and present itself as a huge problem, even though it really isn't.
 

Digitalguy

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Tell that to all the Tesla buyers raving about the continual updates their car gets....
I know very little about Tesla, it's not widespread like in the US here in Europe....
Anyway having updates for iPadOS is something everybody is waiting for... and honestly it's more needed than the M1 or the XDR display....
But hoping to correct / offset an hardware issue with software updates is not something people should count on...
 
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Vangeli

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That photo is in no way representative of real world viewing. I cannot see any perceivable “blooming” on mine.

You get this effect only through photos.

It’s absolutely blown out of proportion in photos.

I have a Samsung QN90A, their latest Mini-LED TV, and while the effect is noticeable, it does not look anything like this in person:

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But that’s been known about FALD backlights for years; they’re not great with text but absolutely stunning with images. Photo and video work will shine on the iPad.

Here’s the same movie but a couple minutes later. Yes, not a screenshot, still captured through my phone camera. Big difference.

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bob24

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One of my friends got this issue on his 12.9 IPP. Huge glowing around the line. I'm not sure is this the picture quality or the ipp issues. Can anyone confirm this?
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I guess the same picture with an iPad 11 would show a similar glowing effect across the whole display.

Obviously the camera is exaggerating the effect, but basically it seems like the mini-LED display looks like OLED in completely dark areas and looks like LCD in areas with a mix of bright and dark elements.

It probably isn’t very visible in a bright light environment, but in a dark environment the slight inconsistency between dark pixels in a fully dark area and dark pixels located in proximity of bright ones might be more visible. Anyone with the new iPad willing to try and tell us? (pictures won’t reflect real life experience)
 
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The Mad Mule

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The edge shadows were the first thing I noticed when the screen was all white during setup, I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me at first, but I guess it's good(?) to know that it doesn't mean it's faulty.

Guess we have to learn to ignore it, but it's still noticeable even when you're browsing here in Dark mode for example...
 
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MrGimper

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The edge shadows were the first thing I noticed when the screen was all white during setup, I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me at first, but I guess it's good(?) to know that it doesn't mean it's faulty.

Guess we have to learn to ignore it, but it's still noticeable even when you're browsing here in Dark mode for example...
If the Apple display devices also have it, which they are reported to, then it’s a ‘feature’
 

Flabasha

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Honestly, way overblown issue - if you hadn't seen it mentioned online you wouldn't even notice it. I've been playing around with my 12.9 since this morning, only checked MR now and though " oh yeah, there's a slight shadow" - doesn't effect the main viewing experience at all.
As the "art-tech" YouTuber Brad Colbow noted, this is probably much more of an issue for people who use their iPad Pro for art (like myself). You can't have shadow falloff when you're painting on the edges (you'd have to constantly readjust the canvas just to avoid the shadow). But if I wasn't using the iPad for art, I'm not sure how much I'd notice this. EDIT: Though, certainly, it would be awful for color correction, should they bring a full Final Cut app to the iPad.
 

dojoman

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This is the problem with using backlit lcd. Yes, there are thousands of zones but cannot compared to self lit oled. MiniLed is just a stopgap until Apple figures out cheaper way to make oled or use microled. why do you think cheap Chinese tv makers are using this instead of oled?
 

Gandek

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iPad Air 4 … now this. Hard to trust Apple with high end iPad displays. Still will have to wait for this issue to be more widely reported so I wouldn’t put it off. OP can you take a image of the screen in complete darkness (black background)
 

Gandek

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If you pixel-peep, you WILL find something wrong. So why bother.
If you come from a older or cheaper iPad that doesn’t have (insert any display issue) and you notice it without looking for it then it will be annoying.
 
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Vangeli

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An extra row of LED zones at each side would’ve solved the edge shadow but also would’ve eaten into the space under the bezels, which is at a premium.
 

Aibocyrus

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I see what you’re talking about, but it’s seriously not that noticeable. At least not even enough for it to be a true issue to the average user.
 
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Kazgarth

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It's a brand new screen technology, you probably have received a miss-calibrated unit.
 

the5rivers

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The pictures are overstating the "blooming" effect unless you have a defective panel. Similar issue when trying to take pictures of my q90r. There is some level of blooming but nothing near the level that is showing on pics IMO.

I haven't reviewed my iPad's yet though lol.
 

DreamPod

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I managed to get a good picture of what mine actually looks like in a similar situation - this is very close to what I see in real life. If you look carefully, the eyes have a bit of the backlight glow inside, and there's a barely noticeable glow around thick lines if you really look closely, but it's nowhere near what was posted here earlier.

This is with the iPad Pro set to maximum brightness.

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