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The RB19 currently is a car built as an extension of Max.
Sorry, but this is simply not true. Max is just the better driver. The car may suit him better, but that's because he has a much greater ability to adapt and drive according to how the car behaves. The true greats have this ability; Senna, Alonso, Vettel. The cars have to conform to regs, so making a car 'fit' a driver as you seem to be suggesting, would probably fail in that regard, as they all have preferences beyond what the regs would allow really. A team cannot just make a car to suit one driver and not the other, as this could compromise the safety of one of them. Over a season, a car can be developed in a way that favours the faster driver slightly more, but that's just common sense if you want to win races and championships. And tbh there's no guarantee that would work as each track is different, and changing the car too much may well ruin it. See Aston Martin. Another important aspect, this that RB aren't developing this car any longer, hence the others catching up I suppose. So the result it gets are entirely down to driver ability now.
 
Sorry, but this is simply not true. Max is just the better driver. The car may suit him better, but that's because he has a much greater ability to adapt and drive according to how the car behaves. The true greats have this ability; Senna, Alonso, Vettel. The cars have to conform to regs, so making a car 'fit' a driver as you seem to be suggesting, would probably fail in that regard, as they all have preferences beyond what the regs would allow really. A team cannot just make a car to suit one driver and not the other, as this could compromise the safety of one of them. Over a season, a car can be developed in a way that favours the faster driver slightly more, but that's just common sense if you want to win races and championships. And tbh there's no guarantee that would work as each track is different, and changing the car too much may well ruin it. See Aston Martin. Another important aspect, this that RB aren't developing this car any longer, hence the others catching up I suppose. So the result it gets are entirely down to driver ability now.
Psychology play a much bigger role than fans give it credit for too. Perez was giving Max a run for his money in the first few races, but once he lost hist grasp of the championship he's been nowhere most of the time. We saw a similar thing with Ricciardo at McLaren. Perez can still drive his RB19, but he's probably not as comfortable as he was at the beginning of the season even, and I doubt it's down to changes in the way the car behaves.
 
Sorry, but this is simply not true. Max is just the better driver. The car may suit him better, but that's because he has a much greater ability to adapt and drive according to how the car behaves. The true greats have this ability; Senna, Alonso, Vettel. The cars have to conform to regs, so making a car 'fit' a driver as you seem to be suggesting, would probably fail in that regard, as they all have preferences beyond what the regs would allow really. A team cannot just make a car to suit one driver and not the other, as this could compromise the safety of one of them. Over a season, a car can be developed in a way that favours the faster driver slightly more, but that's just common sense if you want to win races and championships. And tbh there's no guarantee that would work as each track is different, and changing the car too much may well ruin it. See Aston Martin. Another important aspect, this that RB aren't developing this car any longer, hence the others catching up I suppose. So the result it gets are entirely down to driver ability now.

I completely agree Max is currently the most mission capable driver on the grid today. I guess my point is the changes in the setup made after Saudi Arabia were clearly suited to Max's driving style. I have no problem with that. It is well documented however that Checo has pleaded more than once for the pre Saudi setup. Obviously RBR could not have gone back to that.

That was really all I meant with my comments. There is no question Max's ability to adjust to a situation is on another level at this point in his journey. :)
 
Psychology play a much bigger role than fans give it credit for too. Perez was giving Max a run for his money in the first few races, but once he lost hist grasp of the championship he's been nowhere most of the time. We saw a similar thing with Ricciardo at McLaren. Perez can still drive his RB19, but he's probably not as comfortable as he was at the beginning of the season even, and I doubt it's down to changes in the way the car behaves.

Yes, and his inability to "Get back in the saddle" mentally hinders any ability to adjust to car movements. I'll agree with that.
 
I completely agree Max is currently the most mission capable driver on the grid today. I guess my point is the changes in the setup made after Saudi Arabia were clearly suited to Max's driving style. I have no problem with that. It is well documented however that Checo has pleaded more than once for the pre Saudi setup. Obviously RBR could not have gone back to that.

That was really all I meant with my comments. There is no question Max's ability to adjust to a situation is on another level at this point in his journey. :)
Fairs. But there's a lot of 'RB make the car for Max only' spouted on the internet, which is just nonsense. That's like saying that Mercedes made the cars only for Lewis, but Rosberg beat him in the same machinery, so how does that stack up? 🤷‍♂️ It just doesn't happen; the engineers make the fastest car they can, and the drivers have to drive it. Checco can make as many excuses as he likes, but at the end of the day he knows himself that Max is vastly superior. Tough to deal with, but that's life. Mark Webber accepted this fact when with Vettel. If Checco could accept it the same way, perhaps he'd have a future at RB.
 
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Fairs. But there's a lot of 'RB make the car for Max only' spouted on the internet, which is just nonsense. That's like saying that Mercedes made the cars only for Lewis, but Rosberg beat him in the same machinery, so how does that stack up? 🤷‍♂️ It just doesn't happen; the engineers make the fastest car they can, and the drivers have to drive it. Checco can make as many excuses as he likes, but at the end of the day he knows himself that Max is vastly superior. Tough to deal with, but that's life. Mark Webber accepted this fact when with Vettel. If Checco could accept it the same way, perhaps he'd have a future at RB.

Agreed.
 
So uh...yeah...

Max to first at the first corner as the Ferrari's bog the start. Perez tries to go around the outside and collides with LeClerc and retires.
 
What a muppet Perez is. What on earth was he thinking. Tries to win in the first corner and crashes out. 🤷‍♂️ Absolute idiot.
 
I kind of can't blame him for taking the shot considering the Ferrari's were so slow off the line, but he should not have tried to pinch the corner and instead taken the wider path even if that slowed him.
 
I kind of can't blame him for taking the shot considering the Ferrari's were so slow off the line, but he should not have tried to pinch the corner and instead taken the wider path even if that slowed him.
Well yes, with the pace of the RB he could have just taken it easy and taken them a couple of laps later. This came across like showing off for the home public, and it backfired big time.
 
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Speaking of Norris, no idea what they hell McLaren were thinking starting him on Softs unless they were hoping for a full Safety Car like three or four laps in. His tires quickly fell-off and he had to pit for Hards so he is in the back again.

And LeClerc is going to be investigated post-race for his front wing. Though if Race Control was not going to show him the Black and Orange flag, it would be cheeky to penalize him.
 
Gotta say Piastri has been my surprise driver of the year! Newly into the seat and performing from the off challenging the front row.
 
Ah Kevin's left rear suspension failed and his wheel bent round to the back of the car mid corner more or less and off he went! Safety barrier doing its job happily.
 
Mediums lasting better than I thought. I expected the AMGs and McLarens to have faded by now, but they are holding their own and even moving up in the closing laps.
 
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Easy win for Max, 15 seconds ahead of Lewis. LeClerc and Sainz settled for 3rd and 4th with Norris doing a masterful job of overcoming multiple dumb tire choices to finish 5th. Russel 6th and Daniel 7th.
 
Easy win for Max, 15 seconds ahead of Lewis. LeClerc and Sainz settled for 3rd and 4th with Norris doing a masterful job of overcoming multiple dumb tire choices to finish 5th. Russel 6th and Daniel 7th.
Six points moves Ricciardo up to 17th in the championship, just two points behind Yuki in 16th.
 
11Max VerstappenRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT712:02:30.81425
244Lewis HamiltonMERCEDES71+13.875s19
316Charles LeclercFERRARI71+23.124s15
455Carlos SainzFERRARI71+27.154s12
54Lando NorrisMCLAREN MERCEDES71+33.266s10
663George RussellMERCEDES71+41.020s8
73Daniel RicciardoALPHATAURI HONDA RBPT71+41.570s6
881Oscar PiastriMCLAREN MERCEDES71+43.104s4
923Alexander AlbonWILLIAMS MERCEDES71+48.573s2
1031Esteban OconALPINE RENAULT71+62.879s1
1110Pierre GaslyALPINE RENAULT71+66.208s0
1222Yuki TsunodaALPHATAURI HONDA RBPT71+78.982s0
1327Nico HulkenbergHAAS FERRARI71+80.309s0
1424Zhou GuanyuALFA ROMEO FERRARI71+81.676s0
1577Valtteri BottasALFA ROMEO FERRARI71+85.597s0
162Logan SargeantWILLIAMS MERCEDES70DNF0
1718Lance StrollASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES66DNF0
NC14Fernando AlonsoASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES47DNF0
NC20Kevin MagnussenHAAS FERRARI31DNF0
NC11Sergio PerezRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT1DNF0
 
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