2024 Formula 1 Season thread

[The-Real-Deal82]

There is a thing, a tool, that a lot of folks use, it is called "insurance" every team pays say $100 per worker per month to the FIA, the FIA buys a policy for maternity, as it is not going to happen every month, and if a staff member happens to need leave, it is paid from the insurance, really this is a solved problem.. Re-insurers would love to cover this as it is for them profit, you have income and compound interest accrue on this account, then once in a while, you withdraw, really why this is an issue speaks to the lack of adults in F1, sorry but F1/Liberty/FIA lack the adult in the room...This is such a non issue, so what if it costs $1m per bun, how many buns are going to be in the oven in a given season? The fines from going 0.1 kph over the limit would pay for at least 1 year of premiums for 1 member, all the fines, really.. Can the F1 industry start investing in the hiring of sane rational adults??

Do teams like Red Bull, Mercedes and Ferrari could end up paying as much as £300k a month to the FIA for a complicated insurance policy. Sounds like a really great idea for saving costs.

Or they could just use the existing method for maternity leave which costs them a fraction of the cost and applies to all companies in the country.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Actually the rate could be adjusted so that a portion of the super licence, and other fees pay for certain claims, the idea is to provide relief for teams that might not be in F1, but lower down, within the greater FIA structure, so if a team in the lower rungs pays $0.50, F1 teams pay $10, the lower rung claims are covered, the point is to provide a reliable method to provide cover, as maternity not only means mom off work, it also affects a new hire, the costs of finding a replacement, of providing training or other support, maybe there are complications, having universal cover provides stability within the industry.

You write like you've come up with a brand-new groundbreaking idea. However, Maternity/Paternity pay, time-off, and even parenting time are not new concepts. There are solved and successfully implemented in civilised countries for a long time now.

 

[danny842003]

Actually the rate could be adjusted so that a portion of the super licence, and other fees pay for certain claims, the idea is to provide relief for teams that might not be in F1, but lower down, within the greater FIA structure, so if a team in the lower rungs pays $0.50, F1 teams pay $10, the lower rung claims are covered, the point is to provide a reliable method to provide cover, as maternity not only means mom off work, it also affects a new hire, the costs of finding a replacement, of providing training or other support, maybe there are complications, having universal cover provides stability within the industry.

Why are you dying on this hill? There’s nothing in this for F1 teams.

 

[JustinePaula]

oh well..

 

[headlessmike]

Men usually take a minimum 3 weeks off in my experience. From the last 3 companies I’ve worked for that’s been about average. Now they could take months off if they wanted. Imagine either of those during a competitive season.

For the sake of the people involved I hope that parental leave is never used as leverage against them (budget cap or otherwise). I was lucky enough to take a full year of paid paternity leave with my second child and it was one of the best years of my life, really putting into perspective what is important to me.

 

[Glideslope]

For the sake of the people involved I hope that parental leave is never used as leverage against them (budget cap or otherwise). I was lucky enough to take a full year of paid paternity leave with my second child and it was one of the best years of my life, really putting into perspective what is important to me.

I could not agree more.

 

[CWallace]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone remember when Monaco moved Free Practice 1 and 2 from Thursdays to Fridays? I am guessing pre-COVID?

 

[headlessmike]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone remember when Monaco moved Free Practice 1 and 2 from Thursdays to Fridays? I am guessing pre-COVID?

2022, I believe.

 

[CWallace]

Monaco FP1 was interesting. The Red Bull's initial setup does not seem to be working here, either. Another late night for Sebastian Buemi in the simulator, I expect.

Rain is expected this afternoon, which could "reset" the track.

POS	NO	DRIVER	CAR	TIME	GAP	LAPS
1	44	Lewis Hamilton	MERCEDES	01:12.2		35
2	81	Oscar Piastri	MCLAREN MERCEDES	01:12.2	+0.029s	31
3	63	George Russell	MERCEDES	01:12.3	+0.126s	35
4	4	Lando Norris	MCLAREN MERCEDES	01:12.4	+0.227s	33
5	16	Charles Leclerc	FERRARI	01:12.4	+0.228s	33
6	14	Fernando Alonso	ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES	01:12.8	+0.606s	26
7	18	Lance Stroll	ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES	01:12.8	+0.620s	26
8	22	Yuki Tsunoda	RB HONDA RBPT	01:12.9	+0.706s	34
9	3	Daniel Ricciardo	RB HONDA RBPT	01:12.9	+0.732s	36
10	55	Carlos Sainz	FERRARI	01:13.0	+0.785s	35
11	1	Max Verstappen	RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT	01:13.0	+0.815s	29
12	11	Sergio Perez	RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT	01:13.2	+1.060s	29
13	77	Valtteri Bottas	KICK SAUBER FERRARI	01:13.2	+1.079s	28
14	20	Kevin Magnussen	HAAS FERRARI	01:13.4	+1.221s	33
15	23	Alexander Albon	WILLIAMS MERCEDES	01:13.4	+1.256s	34
16	27	Nico Hulkenberg	HAAS FERRARI	01:13.6	+1.407s	34
17	2	Logan Sargeant	WILLIAMS MERCEDES	01:14.2	+1.981s	36
18	31	Esteban Ocon	ALPINE RENAULT	01:14.2	+1.990s	33
19	24	Zhou Guanyu	KICK SAUBER FERRARI	01:14.6	+2.401s	30
20	10	Pierre Gasly	ALPINE RENAULT	01:15.6	+3.405s	10

 

[Apple fanboy]

Pity that wasn’t the qualifying result!

 

[Glideslope]

Charles did a 1.11.5 on Mediums in P2. 😮

 

[CWallace]

Max continuing to struggle. Same with Perez. We shall see what FP3 brings tomorrow.

Free Practice 2

POS	NO	DRIVER	CAR	TIME	GAP	LAPS
1	16	Charles Leclerc	FERRARI	01:11.3		37
2	44	Lewis Hamilton	MERCEDES	01:11.5	+0.188s	32
3	14	Fernando Alonso	ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES	01:11.8	+0.475s	37
4	1	Max Verstappen	RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT	01:11.8	+0.535s	37
5	4	Lando Norris	MCLAREN MERCEDES	01:12.0	+0.675s	35
6	55	Carlos Sainz	FERRARI	01:12.0	+0.684s	36
7	18	Lance Stroll	ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES	01:12.1	+0.784s	22
8	11	Sergio Perez	RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT	01:12.1	+0.821s	31
9	23	Alexander Albon	WILLIAMS MERCEDES	01:12.3	+0.979s	38
10	63	George Russell	MERCEDES	01:12.3	+0.982s	30
11	22	Yuki Tsunoda	RB HONDA RBPT	01:12.3	+1.071s	36
12	81	Oscar Piastri	MCLAREN MERCEDES	01:12.4	+1.088s	35
13	20	Kevin Magnussen	HAAS FERRARI	01:12.5	+1.195s	31
14	31	Esteban Ocon	ALPINE RENAULT	01:12.6	+1.276s	34
15	27	Nico Hulkenberg	HAAS FERRARI	01:12.6	+1.291s	34
16	3	Daniel Ricciardo	RB HONDA RBPT	01:12.6	+1.299s	37
17	10	Pierre Gasly	ALPINE RENAULT	01:12.8	+1.472s	35
18	2	Logan Sargeant	WILLIAMS MERCEDES	01:12.8	+1.512s	36
19	77	Valtteri Bottas	KICK SAUBER FERRARI	01:13.1	+1.779s	31
20	24	Zhou Guanyu	KICK SAUBER FERRARI	01:13.8	+2.495s	32

 

[cyb3rdud3]

This is going to be one hell of an interesting qualification this afternoon. Red Bull are having car issues and they know they can’t fix it listening to their radio messages. Ferrari is definitely in the race but even Mercedes is looking good. Looks like we will have a race and max will have to compensate a lot for the car. Exciting 👍

 

[Glideslope]

This is going to be one hell of an interesting qualification this afternoon. Red Bull are having car issues and they know they can’t fix it listening to their radio messages. Ferrari is definitely in the race but even Mercedes is looking good. Looks like we will have a race and max will have to compensate a lot for the car. Exciting 👍

Agreed. Charles really wasn't improving all that much on the backside of Q3. Max was down to .19 at the end. Let's see Mercedes on full tanks. Sergio looks lost once again 8 races in.......

It's still Charles' Pole and Race to loose, IMO.

 

[CWallace]

Q1 was something...

On to Q2!

 

[mike.coulter]

Q1 was something...

On to Q2!

Perez seriously doesn’t get on with Monaco does he…

 

[CWallace]

No real surprises with Q2 other than how tight the field was.

Q3 should be pretty amazing.

Perez seriously doesn’t get on with Monaco does he…

Neither Red Bull looked very good all weekend. I am hoping Max is not in the top two rows when Q3 finishes.

 

[CWallace]

Well tomorrow is going to be worth getting up at 5AM for.

 

[Glideslope]

Well tomorrow is going to be worth getting up at 5AM for.

Absolutely. Should be very exciting. I still think it will be Charles P1 tomorrow. It will be close with Oscar.

Will Ferrari blow the strategy?

Will Max sign with Mercedes before Canada or Spain? 😉

 

[Glideslope]

Kmag and Hulk DQ’d for DRS infringement………….

 

[CWallace]

Kmag and Hulk DQ’d for DRS infringement………….

They were running a new rear wing and incorrectly measured the gap at the center of the wing when it is now to be measured at the edges. So the mechanics set the gap wider than the allowed 85mm.

They will now start 19th and 20th.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Enjoyed the qualifying. Usually better than the race. Agree it’s Ferrari’s to lose. With two drivers in the top 3 they have the advantage.
Mercedes looked improved. Of was it that they just swapped places with RBR?
Max in P6 in a Mercedes sandwich could be fun!

 

[pachyderm]

1	16	Charles Leclerc	FERRARI	1:11.584	1:10.825	1:10.270	26
2	81	Oscar Piastri	MCLAREN MERCEDES	1:11.500	1:10.756	1:10.424	24
3	55	Carlos Sainz	FERRARI	1:11.543	1:11.075	1:10.518	28
4	4	Lando Norris	MCLAREN MERCEDES	1:11.760	1:10.732	1:10.542	27
5	63	George Russell	MERCEDES	1:11.492	1:10.929	1:10.543	28
6	1	Max Verstappen	RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT	1:11.711	1:10.745	1:10.567	28
7	44	Lewis Hamilton	MERCEDES	1:11.528	1:11.056	1:10.621	28
8	22	Yuki Tsunoda	RB HONDA RBPT	1:11.852	1:11.106	1:10.858	25
9	23	Alexander Albon	WILLIAMS MERCEDES	1:11.623	1:11.216	1:10.948	29
10	10	Pierre Gasly	ALPINE RENAULT	1:11.714	1:10.896	1:11.311	30
11	31	Esteban Ocon	ALPINE RENAULT	1:11.887	1:11.285		20
12	27	Nico Hulkenberg	HAAS FERRARI	1:11.876	1:11.440		20
13	3	Daniel Ricciardo	RB HONDA RBPT	1:11.785	1:11.482		21
14	18	Lance Stroll	ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES	1:11.728	1:11.563		17
15	20	Kevin Magnussen	HAAS FERRARI	1:11.832	1:11.725		18
16	14	Fernando Alonso	ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES	1:12.019			11
17	2	Logan Sargeant	WILLIAMS MERCEDES	1:12.020			12
18	11	Sergio Perez	RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT	1:12.060			12
19	77	Valtteri Bottas	KICK SAUBER FERRARI	1:12.512			11
20	24	Zhou Guanyu	KICK SAUBER FERRARI	1:13.028			11

Note - Hulkenberg and Magnussen disqualified for technical non-compliance. - Does this mean they won't be allowed to race tomorrow?

 

[CWallace]

Note - Hulkenberg and Magnussen disqualified for technical non-compliance. - Does this mean they won't be allowed to race tomorrow?

They will be sent to the back and start 19th and 20th.

 

[iLog.Genius]

LEC finally wins a race when starting at pole and at his home race....right? If there was ever a time for LEC to do this, it's now.