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amazing! thanks for the stats!

i am sitting here on my 24" with everything maxed out except the ram (i'm at 2gigs also) and i've been dying to get ahold of some games for mac or install bootcamp / windows.

i usually play ffxi, sims2, and a few other games... but really, 120-200fps on WOW? i'm exciteddddd. i really love this machine.

------------------------------- as i dont have a copy of windows now, if you get bootcamp up and running could you possibly try the final fantasy xi benchmark?

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/download/media/benchmark03.html?pageID=media

if you could possibly run it on high and then report what the score was that is given at the end, that would be awesome. thanks!
 
I'll try your link when I re-install windows tomorrow. Been playing with various configs of bootcamp etc :) haha

Just loaded Unreal Tournament 2004 for OS X...

OMG...

200, 300, 400 FPS at 1900x1200 with ALL SETTINGS ON HIGH...

Average seems to be in the 150-250FPS range...

:eek: GOD I love this machine :)
 
Oh, and my bad on the Hand Brake :) hehe oops...

I forgot I was installing Windows XP into Parallels in the background, as well as downloading the Unreal Tournament 2004 Universal Binary...

New Figures:

(Just as is (Handbrake Defaults))...

From Disc Directly...

Non-H.264 = almost 80FPS
H.264 = almost 35FPS

These were averages.

Just launch Handbrake, choose the DVD drive, and hit *RIP*.

Good, Bad?
 
These figures and very encouraging. Could Apple have finally released an iMac which is not just good in design and functionality but also far above the normal level of performance?

Dun dun DUN!
 
Well i was pretty set on getting an 23" ACD and Mac pro with the x1900 card and 2gb ram.

But after reading this i could save myself £700 and get an almost as good machine!

Would be great to see HL2 results and then compair them to the x1900 card in the mac pro.
 
^squirrel^ said:
Well i was pretty set on getting an 23" ACD and Mac pro with the x1900 card and 2gb ram.

But after reading this i could save myself £700 and get an almost as good machine!

Would be great to see HL2 results and then compair them to the x1900 card in the mac pro.

If you're gonna use any high-end pro apps like Photoshop though, I'd still recommend the Mac Pro. Those extra cores, and the higher RAM potential will really help I think.

However, these iMac benchmarks are really really impressive. I'm gonna wait till Photoshop CS3 is released and see how each machine performs. Although I'll probably end up going for the Mac Pro as I already have a Dell 24" monitor.
 
Allotriophagy said:
These figures and very encouraging. Could Apple have finally released an iMac which is not just good in design and functionality but also far above the normal level of performance?

Dun dun DUN!

It has nothing to do with the Mac and everything to do with the 7600GT. If you read around PC benchmarking sites, the 7600GT is essentially *the* card to get on a mid budget, so it is really no surprise.
 
MacProGuy said:
Averaged (From DISC, not from Hard Drive) between 30 and 31 fps... Is that good?

it is good, but it's not a lot greater than current intel core duo. which isn't bad. my powerbook G4 was doing like 6. it's just the mac pro does around 65

EDIT: i saw your other post about Handbrake, but you forgot to change the bit rate to 1500. but either way, it's worth me buying a $700 processor for my imac
 
MacProGuy said:
Just loaded Unreal Tournament 2004 for OS X...

OMG...

200, 300, 400 FPS at 1900x1200 with ALL SETTINGS ON HIGH...

Average seems to be in the 150-250FPS range...

:eek: GOD I love this machine :)
Great! UT 2004 is my favorite game ever :)

May as well turn on full-screen anti-aliasing in UT--I'd love to know what that does to framerates. Supposedly you enable that by the same method as the UT2003 instructions here:

http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/finger/finger.pl?user=icculus&date=2003-05-19&time=05-57-22

Also don't forget to read the end of the readme on the latest UT2004 patch: it tells you how to enable realtime shadows and render-to-texture. (Which look great.)

Also UT 2007 is almost certainly coming to Mac, WITH editing tools. From early specs, it sounds like 2007 WILL run on a 7600 (not at full detail, but still looking great and playing well). Hope so!
 
generik said:
It has nothing to do with the Mac and everything to do with the 7600GT. If you read around PC benchmarking sites, the 7600GT is essentially *the* card to get on a mid budget, so it is really no surprise.

Yes, but my point is that Apple has seldom put graphics chips this decent into the iMac. Always just enough behind the consumer curve to make it slightly annoying. By using the 7600GT, they have pretty much addressed this.

Further, much complaint arose from the fact that the gfx card was not upgradeable and I suspect this was compounded by the fact that the built-in offering was so lacklustre. With the 24" iMac, people will be buying it because of the graphics.

About bloody time.
 
Oh -- could someone with a 7600 run iTunes (and nothing else) and try the visualizer at full-screen in iTunes 7? Hit F for a FPS display.

The 7300 was only getting in the high 20s at the Apple Store. (Which seemed low, but iTunes 7 has higher res album art/text on the visualizer than 6, and might be slower as a result?)
 
MacProGuy said:
I'll let you guys know... any tests anyone wants to run Windows or Mac?

:)

Once you have windows up and running, can you try Counter-Strike: Source & BF2 if you have them

Please post with highest Settings possible, Display FPS (in CSS), take the screenshot while you are on a server with 10 or more people

Thanks
 
nagromme said:
Oh -- could someone with a 7600 run iTunes (and nothing else) and try the visualizer at full-screen in iTunes 7? Hit F for a FPS display.

The 7300 was only getting in the high 20s at the Apple Store. (Which seemed low, but iTunes 7 has higher res album art/text on the visualizer than 6, and might be slower as a result?)

i just ran itunes 7 with a 7600 showing the visualizer at fullscreen, and i was getting anywhere from 41-46fps. the average was 44 or 45.
 
nagromme said:
Oh -- could someone with a 7600 run iTunes (and nothing else) and try the visualizer at full-screen in iTunes 7? Hit F for a FPS display.

The 7300 was only getting in the high 20s at the Apple Store. (Which seemed low, but iTunes 7 has higher res album art/text on the visualizer than 6, and might be slower as a result?)


I get 60fps...

Of course, I have *faster but rougher display* checked... and I have disabled the *cap at 30* setting...
 
MacProGuy said:
I get 60fps...

Of course, I have *faster but rougher display* checked... and I have disabled the *cap at 30* setting...

oh i'm sorry. i get 60 also, when i was running it earlier i HADNT checked the "faster but rougher display" box
 
I'm getting 30-50 fps in WoW with same system...

WTH? I've got the maxed out 24" iMac (except for the hard drive).

I just installed WoW and cranked all the settings like you spelled out, and I get 30-50 fps. This is nowhere in the vacinity of 150 fps...what gives???
 
Aldyn said:
oh i'm sorry. i get 60 also, when i was running it earlier i HADNT checked the "faster but rougher display" box


I'm thinking that, most likely, 60fps is a hard limit... nothing just stops right at 60 with no variation...

:)
 
Neoweo said:
WTH? I've got the maxed out 24" iMac (except for the hard drive).

I just installed WoW and cranked all the settings like you spelled out, and I get 30-50 fps. This is nowhere in the vacinity of 150 fps...what gives???


Hmmm don't know. Did you get the 2.33 with 7600GT???
 
MacProGuy said:
I'm thinking that, most likely, 60fps is a hard limit... nothing just stops right at 60 with no variation...

:)

That must be the cap... I get 60 on my MB with "faster but rougher" either on or off.

120-200 fps is pretty amazing... I would have thought close to 100 MAYBE, but 200?? are you sure??
 
QCassidy352 said:
That must be the cap... I get 60 on my MB with "faster but rougher" either on or off.

120-200 fps is pretty amazing... I would have thought close to 100 MAYBE, but 200?? are you sure??


yes... over 200 in a couple places (mainly inside cities...)... but re-read my original post... the 200fps was in WINDOWED mode... NOT FULL SCREEN MODE! ;)
 
MacProGuy said:
Hmmm don't know. Did you get the 2.33 with 7600GT???

Yes, I have the 2.33 with the 7600gt and 2gb RAM. Here are my WoW settings:
1920x1200, 60Hz, 24-bit color 1x multisample (I tried 4x too with same results)
All "world appearance" sliders set to max, "Level of detail" checked.
All shader checkboxes checked.
Trilinear Filtering Checked.
Vertical Sync not checked.

Is any of this wrong? I'm watching my FPS by using Ctrl-R.

Thanks for any tips.
 
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