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Ditto. I just got my iMac and I'll probably be installing bootcamp soon to test things out. Has anybody tried Age of Empires 3?

I run the OS X version of AOE3 here at 1920x1200 with everything else on the defaults, so no AA and everything else pretty much on High. It runs great.
 
I run the OS X version of AOE3 here at 1920x1200 with everything else on the defaults, so no AA and everything else pretty much on High. It runs great.

so ur saying without AA its like pretty impressive?? i would be willing to loose some quality for performance, aslong as i have full res.
 
so ur saying without AA its like pretty impressive?? i would be willing to loose some quality for performance, aslong as i have full res.

I'm saying I went with the defaults and up'd the resolution. It ran perfectly fine this way. I did chuck the AA on full to have a look and I couldn't really tell the difference in the picture other than a slightly slower frame rate.

edit: Just tested the game at 1920x1200 with AA on low, no difference in frame rate to AA off. The frame rate only dips slightly for me if I had AA on high.
 
I'm saying I went with the defaults and up'd the resolution. It ran perfectly fine this way. I did chuck the AA on full to have a look and I couldn't really tell the difference in the picture other than a slightly slower frame rate.

awsomeo power :) thanks for the info :) i think mine might arrive 2morrow, i dont have a clue tho but im so hoping that it does.
 
iMac v MBP

yes its an underclocked 2600xt

So it's an underclocked mobility 2600xt? how underclocked are we talking?

Is the mobility 2600xt (as underclocked in the 24" iMac) better than the 8600M (as underclocked in the 15" 2.4 MBP)?

Damn! Im so torn between an iMac and a MBP! I love the look of the new iMac and the H-IPS screen is amazing, but the MBP is just as powerful and its portable! The MBP is a sexy machine as well, totally iconic. but its probably closer to a redesign, but whos to say I'd even like the redesign!

The iMac has the potential to be a fantastic home pc, and with an eyeTV could be a nice HTPC. The MBP is a professional machine though, and I feel like thats what I need for web development.

This graphics card comparisson could be the decider; I'd be inclined to go for the faster card. I want a system that will last me at least 3 years.

Clearly I should just get both and shut up, but I'v misplaced my winning lottery ticket.
 
Really want one of these... Tempted to wait for the mid cycle refresh, hopefully they'll put an nvidia card in there.

I guess the question now is, 24" Extreme... Or 20" 2.4ghz
 
More benchmarks: http://xtreview.com/review209.htm




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So it's an underclocked mobility 2600xt? how underclocked are we talking?

Is the mobility 2600xt (as underclocked in the 24" iMac) better than the 8600M (as underclocked in the 15" 2.4 MBP)?

Damn! Im so torn between an iMac and a MBP! I love the look of the new iMac and the H-IPS screen is amazing, but the MBP is just as powerful and its portable! The MBP is a sexy machine as well, totally iconic. but its probably closer to a redesign, but whos to say I'd even like the redesign!

The iMac has the potential to be a fantastic home pc, and with an eyeTV could be a nice HTPC. The MBP is a professional machine though, and I feel like thats what I need for web development.

This graphics card comparisson could be the decider; I'd be inclined to go for the faster card. I want a system that will last me at least 3 years.

Clearly I should just get both and shut up, but I'v misplaced my winning lottery ticket.

i dont have a clue wat the underclock freq is. uumm give me until next thursday and ill find out for myself. why cant someone else tell us?? pleasem?!?!?

my friend has a new imac and is using something similar to eyeTV and its relaly really really awsome. its so perfect in a small environment and as a basic home entertainment system. 24inches is pretty big :)

the new imac will EASILY last you 3 years in terms of cpu power, gpu power maybe 2years. depends on what your doing tho really.

yea ur right, just buy the damn thing!
 
It's true they're mobile chips, but some people seem to like complaining there isn't a £300 GPU in the iMac.

I've found no problems at all running games on Windows XP. No way is the 2600XT / iMac combination slow for gaming. Not spectacular, but more than adequate. Even before updated drivers come out.
 
It's true they're mobile chips, but some people seem to like complaining there isn't a £300 GPU in the iMac.

I've found no problems at all running games on Windows XP. No way is the 2600XT / iMac combination slow for gaming. Not spectacular, but more than adequate. Even before updated drivers come out.

true it is a mobile chip. but judging by what your saying i think alot of people are going to be happy with the performance of the 2600. im glad you think its respectable enough to play with it, mines comming next week so thankyou for informing us and making me feel better about the purchase :)

DoFoT9
 
i dont have a clue wat the underclock freq is. uumm give me until next thursday and ill find out for myself. why cant someone else tell us?? pleasem?!?!?

If you could take the time to read the thread, it is running at 600MHz vs the standard mobile speed of 700MHz and the standard desktop speed of 800MHz. The memory runs at 685MHz vs the standard mobile speed of 700MHz nd the standard desktop speed of 1100MHz.
 
If you could take the time to read the thread, it is running at 600MHz vs the standard mobile speed of 700MHz and the standard desktop speed of 800MHz. The memory runs at 685MHz vs the standard mobile speed of 700MHz nd the standard desktop speed of 1100MHz.

ok thanks floppy. i have actually been with this thread for the whole time practically, did you take the time to notice that??? somethings just slip your mind sometimes. its been a long day so far and its only 11.51am
 
IS the 2600 XT in the imac overclockable? Is it possible has it been done? Under Vista...under XP? Ive scoured this entire thread and havent seen if it was done. Can someone throw me a bone here? Mine is coming tomorrow and Id like to overclock this puppy for Bioshock
 
IS the 2600 XT in the imac overclockable? Is it possible has it been done? Under Vista...under XP? Ive scoured this entire thread and havent seen if it was done. Can someone throw me a bone here? Mine is coming tomorrow and Id like to overclock this puppy for Bioshock

I think it is if you use the latest version of ATITool under Windows.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=725

Still beta software, however.
 
Did you guys see that article that is talking about this thread?

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/08/29/new-imac-video-card-stealth-upgrade-mobility-radeon-hd-2600-xt/

They seem to suggest that at some point, perhaps in conjunction with Leopard, the 2600 xt's will suddenly turn themselves up to full power and start using more hardware encoding and all that. Do you guys think this is meant to be a "stealth upgrade"?

I don't think they'll clock them up. There were probably thermal reasons why they used the lower clock speeds. Also they might be XT chips but they could be the ones that failed to run at XT speeds reliably and sold on cheap to apple.

All apple can do is start using the built in hardware decoding which is already done in windows. This is just a driver issue.
 
If you could take the time to read the thread, it is running at 600MHz vs the standard mobile speed of 700MHz and the standard desktop speed of 800MHz. The memory runs at 685MHz vs the standard mobile speed of 700MHz nd the standard desktop speed of 1100MHz.

If your still not convinced you can (if you actually get the new imac) download the Catalyst control center-- http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/mac/bootcamp-xp.html -- on the ATI site.

It tells you the default settings of your card among many other things.
 
So, could the new linux drivers from AMD mean something to us?

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=821&num=1

Some interesting quotes:
"How much faster? In many cases it is about 50% faster while in some configurations it may go as high as 90% or more. In fact, in some benchmarks the Mobility Radeon X300 was over 10x faster!"

"The fglrx 8.41 driver is focused primarily for the R600 series and the 8.42 driver will contain additional fixes and optimizations for the older generation of ATI graphics processors."
 
ok so i FINALLY got my imac.

i did a very quick test

COD2:
1900x1200 res
4xAA
full highest settings
25-35FPS

1400x900(or equivilent)
0XAA
medium settings
35-60FPS

i have yet to test any other games, nor have i overclocked the gpu back to its 'standard clock' i shall report back once my family gets over the fact that we have yet another mac :). i will also run 3dmark06 and play some other games and whatnot.
 
ok so i FINALLY got my imac.

i did a very quick test

COD2:
1900x1200 res
4xAA
full highest settings
25-35FPS

1400x900(or equivilent)
0XAA
medium settings
35-60FPS

i have yet to test any other games, nor have i overclocked the gpu back to its 'standard clock' i shall report back once my family gets over the fact that we have yet another mac :). i will also run 3dmark06 and play some other games and whatnot.

Excellent! It would be great if you could do various test changing only one parameter like resolution or AA. That way we can get a feel for the card's "sweet spot".
 
Excellent! It would be great if you could do various test changing only one parameter like resolution or AA. That way we can get a feel for the card's "sweet spot".

yup those tests will be coming :) ill do all those little tweaks and stuff asap, i have a few busy days ahead of me, but ill find some time. maybe friday arvo. ill do cod2, quake4, cod1, halo2, CS;Source and ill get back to you :)
 
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