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Are most of the people who are complaining about the price professionals who work for a business ? It seems to me that most businesses look at the cost as a capital expenditure that they will eventually pass onto their customers.
 
Are most of the people who are complaining about the price professionals who work for a business ? It seems to me that most businesses look at the cost as a capital expenditure that they will eventually pass onto their customers.

Actually, my customers have paid me in advance for my capital expenditures. I like that model better.
 
Quad core $2,999 = £1,232

Quad Core in the UK cost = £2,499

I make that over double the price here in the UK :(

Apple just has to be kidding, don't they ?

I think you converted incorrectly somewhere! $2999 is £1850
And US prices also don't include sales tax like ours do.
 
Are most of the people who are complaining about the price professionals who work for a business ? It seems to me that most businesses look at the cost as a capital expenditure that they will eventually pass onto their customers.

Most people that are complaining here are hobbyists or "prosumers".
 
Quad core $2,999 = £1,232

Quad Core in the UK cost = £2,499

I make that over double the price here in the UK :(

Apple just has to be kidding, don't they ?

Realistic exchange rate would mean $2,999 is around £1,900. As in if you wanted $3,000 you'd pay £1,900 to get it tomorrow.

Then you pay 20% tax on that putting the total more at £2,300. So you could order one from the states if you don't like that they are more expensive here. Although then you'd pay £150 in shipping, so you'd save £50 for all that hassle.
 
Are most of the people who are complaining about the price professionals who work for a business ? It seems to me that most businesses look at the cost as a capital expenditure that they will eventually pass onto their customers.

That is as maybe but there are many thousands of home users of pro machines also.
 
Interesting to note that the FirePro D500 has a 384bit memory interface. If you compare to the current W models on the AMD web site, the lowest-end Fire Pro to have that memory interface is the W9000.

So one could assume that these new D models are somewhat different. The fact that the middle-range D500 has the same memory bus as the top-line W9000 of the current gen is a promising point :)
 
I'm definitely a prosumer or hobbyist and by no means a professional.
So let me just get that out there first.

I was disappointed with the price for the entry model. I would definitely have preferred to have a desktop computer, outside of the screen, with more power, expandability and upgradeability than the Mac Mini. But at that starting price it really makes it difficult to justify.

I realize the Apple doesn't design the Mac Pro with people like me in mind but still. Shame. I would've happily got it if it was priced cheaper.
 
Are most of the people who are complaining about the price professionals who work for a business ? It seems to me that most businesses look at the cost as a capital expenditure that they will eventually pass onto their customers.

I think most people on here are prosumers and enthusiasts. Some are likely professionals working alone where money will be tight.

I will be ordering as soon as it becomes available. Already updated my sig :) I will get the 8 core for my home office. I will have to look at the best mix for the office as we will be ordering quite a few. Can't wait to get these hooked up to 4k monitors as well.

When I first started my business I was using windows and building my own computers. As it grew into a medium size operation and OSX came about I could no longer be bothered with Windows and moved to Mac. Since then we have grown the business substantially. It would be totally crazy to try and operate with 'home' built PCs at this level. I can sympathise with people starting out. Its a struggle to try to make ends meet for sure. Especially as the competition grows and always seem to work on the best gear.

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I wonder if the money would be better spent on PC Workstations instead...
Yes it would, or build it yourself. All depends if your chained to OSX or not. If a hex is all you need, you can get one allot cheaper and use the rest of the cash toward other things to benefit your workstation. I built my hex system (4930K) for 1800. Could have selected the top end motherboard for an additional 300 bucks but didn't need to.
 
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Realistic exchange rate would mean $2,999 is around £1,900. As in if you wanted $3,000 you'd pay £1,900 to get it tomorrow.

Then you pay 20% tax on that putting the total more at £2,300. So you could order one from the states if you don't like that they are more expensive here. Although then you'd pay £150 in shipping, so you'd save £50 for all that hassle.

Would you need to pay us tax and uk customs or just uk customs?
 
I'm definitely a prosumer or hobbyist and by no means a professional.
So let me just get that out there first.

I was disappointed with the price for the entry model. I would definitely have preferred to have a desktop computer, outside of the screen, with more power, expandability and upgradeability than the Mac Mini. But at that starting price it really makes it difficult to justify.

I realize the Apple doesn't design the Mac Pro with people like me in mind but still. Shame. I would've happily got it if it was priced cheaper.

Unfortunately the new MP kills the expandability/upgradability part of it, outside of upgrading the RAM and I suppose the PCIe Flash storage (I hope this is user accessible because we know Apple is going to charge a killing for the 1TB).
 
Where are the prices for the 8 and 12 core models...I have a feeling those will be delayed for another month or 2 (yay! :rolleyes:)
 
I will wait for the next iteration, let the first adopters kick the tires etc.. The next iteration will have the Haswell based Xeon and any new design issues will be ironed out by then.

My 2013 Mac Mini will do me well for now.

This new Mac Pro looks like a small Mini desktop Cray.

Someone should sell a pedistal you can sit it on, that makes it look like a Cray :)
 
It would be nice if they offered a version with one low end GPU for the guys that only run CPU intensive tasks. I wouldn't use the GPUs much at all.

I'm having the same wish. But there seems to be something else going on. The only reason to lock the config into 1cpu+2gpu (to require two gpu for every buyer) is if those gpu can do something more than drive pixels. OpenGL seems to do this, but to what extent. If this MP is the first example of a paradigm shift, away from CPUs, they'll need to better explain the benefit to folks who don't need or think in terms of gpu performance.


We all know the price difference from USA to UK (and others) is extreme,...

Tax aside, there may be hidden factors. The us price includes a 1 year warranty. What is the uk warranty?
 
Unfortunately the new MP kills the expandability/upgradability part of it, outside of upgrading the RAM and I suppose the PCIe Flash storage (I hope this is user accessible because we know Apple is going to charge a killing for the 1TB).

Obviously these things are very personal. I have been running my home directory on an external RAID5 drive for the last 18 months or so. I use less than 110gb of data on my SSD drive in the MacPro for applications. This is my 'personal' home office rig. At the office all our critical data is stored on RAID drives in rack mounts. We always buy the smallest internal drives we can these days. The applications we use take up little space.


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Yes. Although gotta wonder is that is still in the "as quiet as a Mac Mini" zone if actually put all of that 12 core and 6GB VRAM to work.

From the specs:

  • •Maximum continuous power: 450W

It's going to make a bit of noise moving the air through to cool that - although it will probably be reasonably quiet if they've managed to avoid turbulence.
 
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