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Sorry if somebody has mentioned this, I haven't read every page.

Why not email Steve? Send him an email noting some specific bugs and how disappointed you are given Apple's usual extreme attention to detail. I have heard he personally will examine things down to the pixel, so who knows?

I think that would be much more effective than only sending in feedback, especially for the long term.
 
Sorry if somebody has mentioned this, I haven't read every page.

Why not email Steve? Send him an email noting some specific bugs and how disappointed you are given Apple's usual extreme attention to detail. I have heard he personally will examine things down to the pixel, so who knows?

I think that would be much more effective than only sending in feedback, especially for the long term.

Good point, but I'm not sending in "feedback". Since I have developer status, I am submitting real bug reports directly to Apple's iPhone Development team for review. They review ALL of the bugs and report back to me to verify if the bug is fixed. Pretty cool, I think.
 
Hmm ... what's the solution, then? Impose a character limit?

(I agree though, doesn't look great)

Yeah character limit would be the easy way out.

However in this case my iPhone syncs with my work exchange account contacts. The field "company main" is a fixed field I cannot rename in my exchange account, (although I would like to). So if they set a maximum limit on the field it might remove functionality with exchange servers.

I did try to see if there was a high limit on this field, but I got to 50 characters and it was still letting me go (assuming no limit at all then)
 
The only UI glitch Apple fixed in 3.1 is the Contacts startup screen. However, Maps' startup screen is still from 2.2.1 and the rest of the bugs I've shown in this thread remain unchanged.

I'm severely disappointed in Apple's ability to design for the iPhone anymore.
 
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TheSpaz said:
The only UI glitch Apple fixed in 3.1 is the Contacts startup screen. However, Maps' startup screen is still from 2.2.1 and the rest of the bugs I've shown in this thread remain unchanged.

I'm severely disappointed in Apple's ability to design for the iPhone anymore.

Well then I'd say it's a good thing you have given ip on the iPhone, right? Great timing!!
 
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Well then I'd say it's a good thing you have given ip on the iPhone, right? Great timing!!

I'm assuming that wasn't sarcasm, but yes you're right. I think it will do me more good then harm to cancel my iPhone contract. Too many people with too much anger toward me on here for no reason. Why am I the only person who cares about UI? Why doesn't Apple provide the same quality as they used to (in regards to interface design). It seems like everything is 1 or 2 pixels off in the new OS and all it does is make it look sloppy. I know it doesn't affect the way it works, but I've grown to love Apple's design decisions and it seems like they've just gotten lazy or ignorant about it.
 
By the way… the new iPod touch 3G also has the FIXED buttons while the iPod touch 2G still has the old buttons. Here's an animation.

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The image with the blue location button is iPod touch 3G 3.1 firmware.

I just got back from the Apple Store looking at them. The screen on the iPod touch 3G is even better than the iPhone 3GS screen. No scan lines and no yellow tint. Awesome!

I'm super excited to get mine now.
 
I just got back from the Apple Store looking at them. The screen on the iPod touch 3G is even better than the iPhone 3GS screen. No scan lines and no yellow tint. Awesome!

Not to burst your bubble or anything, but many people who visited many stores after 3GS release who have had nothing but trouble getting their hands on a 3GS with a decent screen say that all or most of the 3GS display models at their stores (which, incidentally, all have very early build dates/serial numbers) have awesome screens. The running theory is that either Apple retail store employees cherry-pick the display models (which means, of course, that they KNOW that the quality of some screens are better than others out-of-the-box), or that better screens were used to assemble the first few batches of 3GS which would also naturally be the batches that many display models come out of.

So just because the iPT3G you saw on display has a good screen doesn't mean the one you pull out of the shrinkwrap will, too, though I certainly hope that there is consistency now.

BTW, saw no animation attached to your post...

-- Nathan
 
Not to burst your bubble or anything, but many people who visited many stores after 3GS release who have had nothing but trouble getting their hands on a 3GS with a decent screen say that all or most of the 3GS display models at their stores (which, incidentally, all have very early build dates/serial numbers) have awesome screens. The running theory is that either Apple retail store employees cherry-pick the display models (which means, of course, that they KNOW that the quality of some screens are better than others out-of-the-box), or that better screens were used to assemble the first few batches of 3GS which would also naturally be the batches that many display models come out of.

So just because the iPT3G you saw on display has a good screen doesn't mean the one you pull out of the shrinkwrap will, too, though I certainly hope that there is consistency now.

BTW, saw no animation attached to your post...

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What I'm hoping is… I'll get an iPod touch 3G that was assembled around the same time those were. You can tell a lot about an iPod by looking at the display models. ALL of the 8GB iPods had the scan lines… so you can't say that they're all perfect on the floor. Out of every iPod touch I saw… the only ones without the nasty scan lines were the new 32GB models.


I think I may be onto something very important here. I'm noticing a trend. Very early product week model screens look better than later weeks. Here's what I've found.

My first iPod touch… ordered it the day it was announced… perfect screen… no scan lines
My girlfriend's iPod touch (ordered around Christmas of 2007) has scan lines
My first 3 iPhone 3Gs had scan lines (luckily they had other issues too) but, the 4th one (early build) had no scan lines
Now… when I looked at the new iPod touch… they had no scan lines… most likely because the first production weeks of them have a more strict quality inspection to make sure that users get the best possible first impressions… then as they need to keep up with supply and demand, they need to make more of them faster… then the quality starts lacking.

Why is it that all of the early iPods and iPhone I've acquired are better?
 
I'm back with a small update.

1. I tried getting ahold of the UIKit.framework from the iPhone 3GS to fix the buttons (mentioned in the post above) on my iPhone 3G. The Other.artwork file does indeed hold the graphics for the buttons, however, it did not fix the problem. So the problem isn't mismatching graphics, it has something do with the dimensions that the graphics are being placed at.

2. I think I've fixed the messaging field a little bit by shortening the bottom by just one pixel. I also changed the height of the Send button as well as made a better "pushed down" state of the Send button.

Check it out:
 

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I updated to 3.1.2 and it's still the same.

I'm losing faith in Apple's attention to detail. It's like they don't care anymore or they have a completely new set of people working on the iPhone GUI now or something... it's terrible.

I'm sticking with 2.2.1 for longer yet I guess.
 
I updated to 3.1.2 and it's still the same.

I'm losing faith in Apple's attention to detail. It's like they don't care anymore or they have a completely new set of people working on the iPhone GUI now or something... it's terrible.

I'm sticking with 2.2.1 for longer yet I guess.

No, they just aren't going to bother fixing something that's one pixel off from center because there is exactly one and only one person in the world who cares.
 
No, they just aren't going to bother fixing something that's one pixel off from center because there is exactly one and only one person in the world who cares.

Oh really? Why do they even design such stunning UIs then? I mean... I'm the only one who cares about the way it looks. Apple definitely cares and I've already notified them of these bugs. It's just up to them when they have time to fix them. They're probably concentrating on making the system reliable first.

I think all together, iPhone OS 3 has a sloppy UI. There's tons of little oddities in it that make it look and feel rushed and unfinished.

I don't remember any weird graphics in 2.0, 2.0.1, 2.0.2, 2.1, 2.2 or 2.2.1. So it seems as if Apple's getting lazy in the UI department. I'm sorry if I care about great UI... usually Apple shines in this area.

Hopefully iPhone OS 4 will be a complete UI redesign.
 
Oh really? Why do they even design such stunning UIs then? I mean... I'm the only one who cares about the way it looks. Apple definitely cares and I've already notified them of these bugs. It's just up to them when they have time to fix them. They're probably concentrating on making the system reliable first.

You are an idiot and you make no sense.

You say you are leaving the iPhone because Apple doesn't design good UI anymore. Then you say they "definitely care" about fixing these annoyances.

You complain that things aren't fixed, then you state that they are probably concentrating on make the system reliable first.

So it seems you've answered all of your own questions. Why so much complaining from you?
 
You are an idiot and you make no sense.

You say you are leaving the iPhone because Apple doesn't design good UI anymore. Then you say they "definitely care" about fixing these annoyances.

You complain that things aren't fixed, then you state that they are probably concentrating on make the system reliable first.

So it seems you've answered all of your own questions. Why so much complaining from you?

Because I love how great 2.2.1 is and it annoys the heck out of me that they ruined the good experience of the iPhone 3G with 3.0. It still seems like a beta. Apple usually doesn't do this kind of half-ass crap.

That's why I complain. I'm sorry.
 
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