3D is still by far Apple silicon’s biggest weak point compared to PCs, but that doesn’t mean you can’t do professional quality work on a Mac - you absolutely can, and it’s getting better all the time.
It runs well on my M1 Air as well. Though I still want a native version and not Rosetta
I have used m1 air 16gb and currently use a MBP 16" M1 Max. Great laptops. Not very good for 3d. For being smallish laptops rendering might be ok. Compared to anything else, the Mac is in the worst shape ever when it comes to 3d rendering. It is very hard to buy a PC that is as bad as Mac for 3d-rendering. It is all very sad since the CPU is plenty fast. Just to give you a comparison: a M1 Max equipped Mac Studio renders typical scenes with the same speed as a 6 year old basic graphics card that you can get for free (used) for a PC. Not kidding, I threw away 2 Vega 64 cards since they are no longer supported on egpu Macs (m1 series) and no-one using a PC wanted to pay . Sure, the m1 series is more energy effective but that doesn't matter when you have a task to accomplish. Even the best M1 Max Ultra at it's very best cannot compete to even midrange GPUs. If you decide to use a CPU-based renderer otoh you get good results though in the same ballpark is other moderns CPUs with the same amount of cores.(that is a 8 core Mac is in the same ballpark as a 8 core modern PC)
Apple developers seem to be working on Metal support for Blender's MNEE.
2022-09-06 Render & Cycles Meeting
Attendees Brecht Van Lommel (Blender) Thomas Dinges (Blender) Christophe Hery (Meta) Brian Savery (AMD) Nikita Sirgienko (Intel) Stefan Wener (Intel) Patrick Mours (NVIDIA) Michael Jones (Apple) Notes Blender 3.3 release: oneAPI: improvement to fallback to host memory when out of GPU memory...devtalk.blender.org
What is the use case for Manifold Next Event Estimation?
I think apple needs to quadruple or more the gpu rendering performance of an m1 ultra to be competitive with 3090. Best case scenario they get into the same ballpark with a Mac Pro. Which isn’t bad. I just doubt they’ll be blowing anyone’s mind in terms of 3d rendering unless they get into dedicated raytracing hardware.
and with the 4090 just about out, it gets worse.I think apple needs to quadruple or more the gpu rendering performance of an m1 ultra to be competitive with 3090. Best case scenario they get into the same ballpark with a Mac Pro. Which isn’t bad. I just doubt they’ll be blowing anyone’s mind in terms of 3d rendering unless they get into dedicated raytracing hardware.
I say that as an M1 Max owner who still thinks they’re lovely machines.
Supposedly it isn't much bigger than the 3090ti cards (non-founder edition). But yeah it is a fairly monsterous card. Really none of the 4090's should be air cooled, they all should be water cooled for the amount of heat they will be putting out.
There seems to be some AIBs selling water cooled 4090s. The power curve of the 4090 isn't has bad as rumored but I do think Apple has the edge, I think the majority of consumers have no need for such a power hungry and hot gpu
Eh, technically the 4090 doesn't really draw more power than the 3090 ti did (or could). I mostly think nvidia knows the folks that are going to buy a 4090 are gonna OC the snot out of it and wanted to be able to handle the cooling requirements (without going water OOTB). Reviews will be interesting for sure.
Yeah, all AIO from what I can tell, which is annoying for those with custom loops. It may take a while for the custom loop cards to come out.
I think custom loop folks are not waiting on AIBs, but will get a water block like from EKWB and others. The very nature of custom loop hobbyist are doing things themselves so that's why I don't think people are holding their breath on waterblocked 4090s. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there will be some company doing it, but I think people prefer to have that level of control and choose the specific waterblock - just my $.02
GPUs that have a waterblock straight from the AIB, instead of needing to remove the fans and the heat sync from an existing GPU
Yeah the EK block is a 4th of the price of the FE card. I like EK but that seems a bit high right now, lol. Oddly enough no one else has shown a block yet. EDIT- I lie Alphacool has a block as well.
Gotcha and thank you. Water loops for cooling; loop is redundant, unless you want to hydrate your carpet. Still interested in hearing about the omniverse.
