You're not lucky. You're part of the majority. I have never bought a new Apple product and had any kind of problem with it. Some of these dudes have bad karma.
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4 iPads... Not one is decent....
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You're not lucky. You're part of the majority. I have never bought a new Apple product and had any kind of problem with it. Some of these dudes have bad karma.
I'm in the same boat. First iPad had clear dead pixel, unacceptable for this price. Second iPad, the current one, has a clear and ugly case of bad backlight bleeding...I'll submit a photo later to show i am not just obsessive about small things... So It will soon be replaced, I am clear with apple about my expectations and they are clear with their desire to deliver. Hopefully this will be soon. No dead pixels and extremely minimal backlight bleeding is all I am looking for, apparently that is too much to ask for for 680.00 dollars...
A lot of manufacturers / retailers class that as perfectly acceptable... They have a tolerance of a certain number of dead / stuck pixels before a swap / refund..
1 iPad. Perfect device. No wifi issues. Safari amazing. Screen amazing. Sorry you're having such bad luck. Hope you have Applecare. They'll keep giving you new ones until they're perfect. At least that's been my experience with Apple when it comes to computers, iPods and iPhones. Good luck.
I guess my question is why would you ever do that? Why would you have an expectation of 'no light bleed' at all, why would you need it.
I read mine in bed with an inverted screen (white text on black background) and can't see any significant light bleed (if there is any the text is far brighter than it is). Why would I even be concerned with other than real world usage standards?
Its like some people need to read dark grey on black text in the black hole of calcutta and the iPad isn't up to the task - if that's the case I guess you've got a point, if not what is your point?
My point is should I expect light bleed on the iPad? Certainly many of the responses that have told me and others to get a life, or we have a mental disorder seem to think so.
Real life usage includes apps like Netflix, video, etc. When I watch a video with black bars it shows light leakage. Do you consider this acceptable? I don't.
Asking for someone with a great screen if they could post a pic to compare with seems like a reasonable request on a forum like this. Instead it gets met with sarcasm. Why, I don't have a clue.
Also the Apple genius told me he had the same problem and was going to wait a few weeks before he exchanged his. When he went to check for another replacement for me he came back and said the replacements that he had exhibited the same problem.
My take on this is that I can live with a small amount of imperfection as long as everyone else has too also. IE, i'm more accepting if they are ALL that way. I just wouldn't want to be the guy that got the "broke" one!
BTW I thought all LCD's had edge bleed? I have have some on every monitor, and on both HDTV's??????
I guess its because its a huge hassle. I would have to get a totally black screen, find a totally dark room, and is this with the screen brightness at a reasonable level (totally dark room I'd figure 20% would be plenty) or is this some unrealistic 100% brightness thing?
Again, I have no interest or care if my screen bleeds light with 100% brightness with a black screen in a totally dark room - I'm never going to use it like that in any real world situation. Be like worrying if my Prius had a shimmy at 90 miles an hour.
EDIT: Took some pictures, can't see any edge bleed anywhere at any brightness (though 100% on a dark screen in a dark room really results in a dark grey bar)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6831558/movie 20% bright dark room.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6831558/movie 100% bright dark room.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6831558/picture 20% bright dark room.JPG
I don't get it. I looked at every colored screen and saw nothing but color. If I was supposed to see a flaw I missed it. I tried a similar test with the same result. I have to conclude my screen is perfect.
Among my family, friends and co-workers that have them (about 25 iPads), I've yet to see or hear of a bad one.
My iPad is, quite strangely, the first Apple device I haven't had to return.
I've previously flown through bad units of Airs and MBPs like nothing...all with bad builds or bad screens.
I certainly wasn't expecting the iPad to be exclusive of this trend.
However, the blacks are deep and inky and a nice, uniform white screen pops up with out a single stuck/dead pixel.
I probably have some super minor backlight bleed but the screen doesn't have any mura.
I've previously flown through bad units of Airs and MBPs like nothing...all with bad builds or bad screens.
I certainly wasn't expecting the iPad to be exclusive of this trend.
However, the blacks are deep and inky and a nice, uniform white screen pops up with out a single stuck/dead pixel.
I probably have some super minor backlight bleed but the screen doesn't have any mura.
Mine is perfect
Maybe I just don't get what the backlighting your complaining about, if your telling me that in a 100% dark room, and the Ipad on a 100% black screen, you are seeing some light and that is a problem for you then your problem is in your head and not an apple problem. there are no Screens of any kind which have 0 % backlighting under the conditions I stated. However, that does not mean you couldn't be having backlighting issues. If you are having a problem with backlighting, and it is effecting watching movies or anything else, then that is a problem.
Dead Pixels are another matter entirely. If you have dead pixels, you should be returning it back until it is perfect.
Now as to why your request is being met with sarcasm, is because many, or most of us, bought our Ipads, and have absolutely no problems. Now it is possible that perhaps the backlighting issue isn't bothering us, or maybe, it is you who needs to take a trip with the men in the white coats and a straight jacket, and spend some time in a room with rubber walls.
Seriously, I am someone who can not be bothered with blue ray, I enjoy it when I see it, but I would never shell out for a blue ray player, and replace my movie collection with blue ray discs. HD at that level, is just not important to most of us, especially not to me. In fact most movies made prior to the year 2004, are not intended to be viewed in HD. Watching the makeup crumble off each time an actor sweats and talks at the same time, is not my idea of fun. So you may be more of videophile than most of us, and your expectations may be based on something that really is not important to most of us. This is why people are sarcastic and suggesting that you spend a long time on a couch with a trusted "friend".
As to your request to take a picture of the backlighting so you can see what we consider acceptable, well, sorry, I have better things to do with my time.
Especially when my Ipad works perfectly fine for me.
Maybe I just don't get what the backlighting your complaining about, if your telling me that in a 100% dark room, and the Ipad on a 100% black screen, you are seeing some light and that is a problem for you then your problem is in your head and not an apple problem. there are no Screens of any kind which have 0 % backlighting under the conditions I stated. However, that does not mean you couldn't be having backlighting issues. If you are having a problem with backlighting, and it is effecting watching movies or anything else, then that is a problem.
Dead Pixels are another matter entirely. If you have dead pixels, you should be returning it back until it is perfect.
Now as to why your request is being met with sarcasm, is because many, or most of us, bought our Ipads, and have absolutely no problems. Now it is possible that perhaps the backlighting issue isn't bothering us, or maybe, it is you who needs to take a trip with the men in the white coats and a straight jacket, and spend some time in a room with rubber walls.
Seriously, I am someone who can not be bothered with blue ray, I enjoy it when I see it, but I would never shell out for a blue ray player, and replace my movie collection with blue ray discs. HD at that level, is just not important to most of us, especially not to me. In fact most movies made prior to the year 2004, are not intended to be viewed in HD. Watching the makeup crumble off each time an actor sweats and talks at the same time, is not my idea of fun. So you may be more of videophile than most of us, and your expectations may be based on something that really is not important to most of us. This is why people are sarcastic and suggesting that you spend a long time on a couch with a trusted "friend".
As to your request to take a picture of the backlighting so you can see what we consider acceptable, well, sorry, I have better things to do with my time.
Especially when my Ipad works perfectly fine for me.
I feel sorry for those of you who have bought and exchanged ipads 100 times and yet to find a good one.
I have a perfect iPad.. with a very very slight light bleed on one side but not enough for me to notice and to return for another one.
If it's close enough with 1 or 2 minor defects, then just ignore it and use the thing for what it was designed for. You won't be using it in 2 years time cuz you'll be using a new model anyway. Electronics come and go.
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I have a perfect iPad.. with a very very slight light bleed on one side but not enough for me to notice and to return for another one.
If it's close enough with 1 or 2 minor defects, then just ignore it and use the thing for what it was designed for. You won't be using it in 2 years time cuz you'll be using a new model anyway. Electronics come and go.
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My first one had dust under the screen. My second one has a stuck pixel. I live with it though.
Seems to be fine other than that.
Seems to be fine other than that.
You can find something wrong with anything if you look hard enough, but I suggest you just enjoy your iPad.
No, you (we) get it. Like myself and many others, you have an excellent iPad. And I am also assuming you enjoy the thing.
This isn't the first post on this bleeding issue. (non issue). Someone in this post suggested that those of us with perfect screens didn't know what we were looking for. I suggested that they didn't understand led backlit screens. However, if those of us with perfect screens are wrong, then ignorance is bliss, because I myself am a very happy camper.
Thanks BobVB. Here is mine at 100% in a dark room, although not pitch black (could see in the room).
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I feel sorry for the pixel, imagine it were you stuck and going nowhere fast, surrounded by happy changing brightly colored pixels, with people criticising you on some forum.
What a life.
yeah neither mine nor my sisters has anything like that 'puckered' effect no matter how you look at it.
You're just having bad luck - there are good ones out there just change it again.
my 4th iPad is finally in perfect condition.
nr 1 had a big speck of dust next to the bezel, nr 2 and three had dead pixels, nr. 4 is fine.
joked about it first but it seems complaining about this earns you an OCD diagnosis by the board experts right away now every time but I think with a display this size that is supposed to be held closer to the eye than a comp monitor and is made for hours of focused reading it's ok to kill off some baby seals for these nuisances. Once spotted these little f%$ers can't simply be unseen, at least not by some more seasoned gadget abusers.
AAAAnd with a market hype that is completely off the scale and with virtually no serious competition in sight at all it's kinda mandatory to keep the monopolist from getting too sloppy. If they promise to sell magical, revolutionary, gorgeous and unbelievably thin to us mere mortals (Boom!) than I demand to get just that and not just a concept that deserves these attributes.
nr 1 had a big speck of dust next to the bezel, nr 2 and three had dead pixels, nr. 4 is fine.
joked about it first but it seems complaining about this earns you an OCD diagnosis by the board experts right away now every time but I think with a display this size that is supposed to be held closer to the eye than a comp monitor and is made for hours of focused reading it's ok to kill off some baby seals for these nuisances. Once spotted these little f%$ers can't simply be unseen, at least not by some more seasoned gadget abusers.
AAAAnd with a market hype that is completely off the scale and with virtually no serious competition in sight at all it's kinda mandatory to keep the monopolist from getting too sloppy. If they promise to sell magical, revolutionary, gorgeous and unbelievably thin to us mere mortals (Boom!) than I demand to get just that and not just a concept that deserves these attributes.
Oh my god! That's awful!
Your whites look very white there. How do you know the other poster wasn't using a lower exposure? You should at least agree on an image to compare - do you have Avatar? Could you post a screenie of a problematic image for people to try?
I actually thought of that and put the thing in Photoshop and cranked up the brightness (which you can do too) there isn't any such 'pucker' effect on mine, even the one on full brightness.Oh my god! That's awful!
Your whites look very white there. How do you know the other poster wasn't using a lower exposure? You should at least agree on an image to compare - do you have Avatar? Could you post a screenie of a problematic image for people to try?
Does yours have that? I rarely watch in full darkness anyway but still. I had a monitor with that pucker when on dark screen savers but it was a cheap monitor.