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onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
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I think you offer many valid points and useful insight and information with most of your posts but dude, you are becoming such a broken record. Nearly every post I read of yours makes a reference to Apple fans only advocating a feature/function in a device once it's in an iDevice, else 'it's useless'. We get it, Apple fanboys are blind and ignorant. Point made, time to move on...

That's a fair argument. I'm sorry to be a broken record, but it's got to be said.

Here's my POV: Thanks to the Apple/Samsung trials, we now know Apple pays very close attention to consumer feedback. For what it's worth, it's now more important than ever to call people out on the inconsistencies and obscurantisms because it's still happening.

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I think iOS 6 brings sharing more in line with Android's implementation, although I'm not sure whether it's as extensible or not from a developer perspective.

When I install EverNote, it shows up in the list of things I can share my photos to, and when I uninstall it, it disappears.

Don't know if it works for other apps, that's just the one I noticed.

You're taking a really simplistic view if you think iOS is less usable because it takes more steps to achieve something.

For whatever reason, DropBox doesn't show up when I try to share from Photos on my iPad. I have to go into DropBox and upload things from there.

Did I miss a step?
 

cnev3

macrumors 6502
Sep 13, 2012
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You know that most antivirus apps can be disabled to run on startup if you chose to. You installed an antivirus and got annoyed when it does its job. Regarding the brightness could it be that you have your auto brightness and power saving mode on.

I know how to disable the app. But I don't want to, because then i'll worry about viruses, and every time my phone does something weird, i'll worry that it's a virus, and I don't need that hassle. So I am forced to just deal with the inconvenience of waiting it to do scans.

Auto brightness is off. I turned it on, and back off several times. Screen brightness still randomly changes for no apparent reason.

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I addressed your question some posts back;


The only app I miss from iOS is the Apple TV app, so for me, other than that, there are no must have apps from iOS that I need. How difficult is that to understand?

The only iOS app that I miss is too freaking many to list.

If you only miss one iOS app, and you like the android OS more, then the iPhone isn't for you.

I use my device for primarily 4 things. Calls, music, web browsing, and games/music prod apps. In my opinion, iPhone does a better job at these things. While Android has a handful of features and other aspects that iPhone doesn't have, this isn't enough to make me stay with android phones.

But my 5th gen iPod touch will be delivered tomorrow, and my android phone will be used for only calls and wifi tethering.
 

cnev3

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Sep 13, 2012
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I just can't see how anyone could make a good argument for iPhone gaming with such a small screen that you need to get two thumbs on from lack of USB hosting support.

That 0.8" difference between an iPhone 5 screen and a Galaxy S3 is so HUGE! I could never play games on my 4" screen, but once I got a 4.8" screen, now gaming is possible. Please, dude. Dont even.

The iPod Touch is the most popular portable gaming device in the world, and not for a lack of screen size. I was in the top 100 leaderboard for Modern Combat 3, which I played on my iPod Touch and had a K/D Ratio of 4.6. I spent more time on that game than i'd like to admit.

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And I am curious why you think games are important, because gaming on iOS is a pathetic joke. Game with an S3 or Galaxy Nexus phone/tablet and you can play with a PS3 or Xbox 360 controller.

Yeah, i'm going to carry an Xbox 360 controller in my pocket everywhere I go.

And when I am home, i'm playing Battlefield 3, and Skyrim on my xbox.

Gaming on iOS is such a pathetic joke, that the developers who make the best games make it for iOS and not Android.

If I didn't care about gaming, i'd stick with my android device.

Not having Street Fighter Volt is alone, almost enough to make me ditch android.

With the new wider screen and A6 chip, gaming will only get better.
 
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tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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For whatever reason, DropBox doesn't show up when I try to share from Photos on my iPad. I have to go into DropBox and upload things from there.

Did I miss a step?

It doesn't show up in the Photos app but is an option (as is Flickr, Dropbox, Goodreader, and a few others on my iPad) in iPhoto.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Las Vegas, NV
I know how to disable the app. But I don't want to, because then i'll worry about viruses, and every time my phone does something weird, i'll worry that it's a virus, and I don't need that hassle. So I am forced to just deal with the inconvenience of waiting it to do scans.

Auto brightness is off. I turned it on, and back off several times. Screen brightness still randomly changes for no apparent reason.

I dont use a anti virus on my phone. Ive never had a virus on my Android devices. I pay attention to what i download and i read what the apps discriptions are and read the feedbacks. Have never had a problem but i did try Lookout for a few weeks on my GS1 once just to see what else it does.

If i ever get a problem with my phone, ill just do a reset if it is bad enough.
I never use auto brightness either. I just set to the halfway mark and leave it there.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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That's a fair argument. I'm sorry to be a broken record, but it's got to be said.

Here's my POV: Thanks to the Apple/Samsung trials, we now know Apple pays very close attention to consumer feedback. For what it's worth, it's now more important than ever to call people out on the inconsistencies and obscurantisms because it's still happening.

The problem with that logic though is that the culprits of this behavior are never going to react to such criticism with anything other than more blind loyalty and denial. Apple apologists aren't going to change so why beat that dead horse? All it does here is fire up the fanboys even more and often turns what can be constructive threads into flame wars. That being said, not sure why I'd expect anything titled 'my phone is better than your phone...' to be filled with constructive debate (not a personal reference to you but rather the general tone of most of this thread).

Alright, personal mini-rant complete. Back to our regularly scheduled program...
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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That 0.8" difference between an iPhone 5 screen and a Galaxy S3 is so HUGE! I could never play games on my 4" screen, but once I got a 4.8" screen, now gaming is possible. Please, dude. Dont even.

The iPod Touch is the most popular portable gaming device in the world, and not for a lack of screen size. I was in the top 100 leaderboard for Modern Combat 3, which I played on my iPod Touch and had a K/D Ratio of 4.6. I spent more time on that game than i'd like to admit.

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Yeah, i'm going to carry an Xbox 360 controller in my pocket everywhere I go.

And when I am home, i'm playing Battlefield 3, and Skyrim on my xbox.

Gaming on iOS is such a pathetic joke, that the developers who make the best games make it for iOS and not Android.

If I didn't care about gaming, i'd stick with my android device.

Not having Street Fighter Volt is alone, almost enough to make me ditch android.

With the new wider screen and A6 chip, gaming will only get better.

Yes, 20% larger is a massive difference and that's an S3 vs iPhones largest offering. There are larger screen Android devices if gaming is that important.

I'm not into mobile gaming I just know what I like. On my 4S dead trigger is me starring at my thumbs. I'm sure the 5 is mildly better but would anyone buy a 5 just for a larger screen to play games?

Can you cut back on the sarcasm a bit? There is a reason it's referred to as the lowest form of wit.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
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For whatever reason, DropBox doesn't show up when I try to share from Photos on my iPad. I have to go into DropBox and upload things from there.

Did I miss a step?

No you didn't miss a step. It's just not that good. I don't know if developers have access to this and apps just need updating but all I have is (in typical apple fashion) apple apps and their integrated apps Facebook and twitter. Which btw isn't that good, if I'm adding a pic to Facebook 90% of the time I want to add friends which it doesn't do. Maybe with time it will get better but right now it's just a crappy copy. The only app I'd like to see is Dropbox.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Las Vegas, NV
For inside it's fine, but outside, halfway brightness doesn't cut it.

This is true but if i need to turn up the brightness in sunlight i just pull down the notifications window and turn it up in a matter of seconds. This screen on the GS3 is not good in sunlight and i admit that but the majority of the time halfway up on the brightness is just fine.
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
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North Yorkshire
If you only miss one iOS app, and you like the android OS more, then the iPhone isn't for you.

I have had a iPhone 3GS, 4, 4S and 5 and decided that the SGS3 was best for me. Reading your previous posts you seem to have had an Android phone for some years, just out of interest, this being an iPhone5/SGS3 thread, how many iPhones have you owned? And have you ever owned a SGS3?

I dont use my phone for gaming, in fact, I don't do any gaming whatsoever, I also don't use my phone for music, I have over 160 GB of music that I keep on an iPod classic (I select a couple of albums that I don't want to transfer) that is always hooked up to my car, my wife does the same in her car, no phone or iPod touch would suffice. In the house I transfer my music from iTunes onto a Western Digital MyBook Live NAS and stream it through my Sonos system throughout different speakers around the house. I do however have some films, Kindle, browse the web and use Flipboard on my phone, the bigger screen size of the S3 over the iPhone is more than enough reason to have the S3, the iPhone 5 just cannot compete (IMHO).

Screenshot from my iTunes
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matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
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Lincoln, England
That's a fair argument. I'm sorry to be a broken record, but it's got to be said.

Here's my POV: Thanks to the Apple/Samsung trials, we now know Apple pays very close attention to consumer feedback. For what it's worth, it's now more important than ever to call people out on the inconsistencies and obscurantisms because it's still happening.

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For whatever reason, DropBox doesn't show up when I try to share from Photos on my iPad. I have to go into DropBox and upload things from there.

Did I miss a step?

Nope, like I said I'm not sure how it works. It just seems strange that Apple would add Evernote sharing without announcing that anywhere, and why that would only show up when Evernote is installed. It made me wonder if it was in fact now open to apps that implement the sharing Api.

Ill investigate further :p
 

cnev3

macrumors 6502
Sep 13, 2012
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I have had a iPhone 3GS, 4, 4S and 5 and decided that the SGS3 was best for me. Reading your previous posts you seem to have had an Android phone for some years, just out of interest, this being an iPhone5/SGS3 thread, how many iPhones have you owned? And have you ever owned a SGS3?

I dont use my phone for gaming, in fact, I don't do any gaming whatsoever, I also don't use my phone for music, I have over 160 GB of music that I keep on an iPod classic (I select a couple of albums that I don't want to transfer) that is always hooked up to my car, my wife does the same in her car, no phone or iPod touch would suffice. In the house I transfer my music from iTunes onto a Western Digital MyBook Live NAS and stream it through my Sonos system throughout different speakers around the house. I do however have some films, Kindle, browse the web and use Flipboard on my phone, the bigger screen size of the S3 over the iPhone is more than enough reason to have the S3, the iPhone 5 just cannot compete (IMHO).

Screenshot from my iTunes
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0.8" of more screen is the main reason you switched? I mean yeah its nice to have a bigger screen, but 0.8" isn't a lot. If I switched, it would be for the handful of features mentioned in the 50 reasons video.

I've owned 2 android smartphones, every gen iPad (but sold), and every gen iPod Touch.

I like the S3. I think it's a good phone, and if I was staying with an android phone when I sign a new 2 year contract, that's the phone i'd pick. My friend let me use it on a very long flight, and I spent a good couple hours getting a feel for it.

But I am big on games, and music apps, and there's just too many good apps that I was using on iOS, that I was disappointed to see Google Play not have.

The apps that Moog, Korg, Fender, and Propellerhead have released on iOS is really remarkable stuff. The sound modeling that would have costed hundreds just 7 or 8 years ago, is now on an app that's $1-$10.

I also have a fair amount of purchased content invested in iTunes, and many of my closest friends and gf use iOS devices, and that makes sharing and communicating easier,and playing multiplayer games possible.

When I got my android phone, I was downloading and using apps a lot for the first couple weeks, then I kind of lost interest. Now I only use my phone for calls, texting, looking up something online, or maybe a game of zynga poker when I am waiting in line.

On my iPod Touch, I was always gaming, and I used web browsing every day. Even though it was not a cell phone, I always had it in my pocket when I left the house.

And I just found iOS to have fewer issues, and less hassles. While it's by no means perfect, I didn't encounter the kind of issues that totally interfere with what i'm trying to do like my android phone has been doing. Maybe a newer set running jellybean would be more reliable, but that still wont change the fact that a lot of the content I want isn't available on it.

I guess it boils down to me putting more value on software than hardware.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Las Vegas, NV
0.8" of more screen is the main reason you switched? I mean yeah its nice to have a bigger screen, but 0.8" isn't a lot. If I switched, it would be for the handful of features mentioned in the 50 reasons video.

Actually 0.8" is a lot when you hold them side by side and you have to remember that the GS3 is also wider than the iP5 which they didnt widen at all so the screen on the GS3 is much bigger than the iPhones is.
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
North Yorkshire
0.8" of more screen is the main reason you switched? I mean yeah its nice to have a bigger screen, but 0.8" isn't a lot. If I switched, it would be for the handful of features mentioned in the 50 reasons video.

I've owned 2 android smartphones, every gen iPad (but sold), and every gen iPod Touch.

I like the S3. I think it's a good phone, and if I was staying with an android phone when I sign a new 2 year contract, that's the phone i'd pick. My friend let me use it on a very long flight, and I spent a good couple hours getting a feel for it.

But I am big on games, and music apps, and there's just too many good apps that I was using on iOS, that I was disappointed to see Google Play not have.

The apps that Moog, Korg, Fender, and Propellerhead have released on iOS is really remarkable stuff. The sound modeling that would have costed hundreds just 7 or 8 years ago, is now on an app that's $1-$10.

I also have a fair amount of purchased content invested in iTunes, and many of my closest friends and gf use iOS devices, and that makes sharing and communicating easier,and playing multiplayer games possible.

When I got my android phone, I was downloading and using apps a lot for the first couple weeks, then I kind of lost interest. Now I only use my phone for calls, texting, looking up something online, or maybe a game of zynga poker when I am waiting in line.

On my iPod Touch, I was always gaming, and I used web browsing every day. Even though it was not a cell phone, I always had it in my pocket when I left the house.

And I just found iOS to have fewer issues, and less hassles. While it's by no means perfect, I didn't encounter the kind of issues that totally interfere with what i'm trying to do like my android phone has been doing. Maybe a newer set running jellybean would be more reliable, but that still wont change the fact that a lot of the content I want isn't available on it.

I guess it boils down to me putting more value on software than hardware.

I think that you have some very fair and valid points, honestly, for viewing that .8" is a great deal for me (I have old eyes) having said that, your main reasons for picking iOS are for the gaming apps, hands up time, I can't fault you there mate, I would really have to agree. Music, as I mentioned on my previous post, I am heavily invested in iTunes and it works really well for me in conjunction with my iPod classics (although long in the tooth, I still feel that they are unsurpassed) My phone, I dont use for music or games, but love using it the way I do. Be sure to give us your first impressions of your new iPod touch when you get it tomorrow?
 

andyshock

macrumors newbie
Nov 7, 2012
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A thought!! :p

I have used both the phones and here is what I have
seen....

1.
Screen has higher pixel density and
is brighter

True it is crisper on iPhone and outdoors in bright
light it is better but indoors S3 display looks better

2.
Thinner

True

3.
Lighter

False! Both are different sizes so comparing by
overall weight is NOT correct. Lets measure weight per inch to give you better
idea.

iPhone: 112gm/4 inches = 28gm /inch Samsung S3: 133gm/4.8 inches = 27.7 gm/inch

So in a true sense S3 is lighter as you are getting
bigger screen size in less weight.

4.
Easier one handed operation

Hahaha!! This is funny..... I have hardly seen
people using only one hand... most use two hands.. By the way who the hell said
that phone is to be used by only one hand when u have two: P. Tie

5.
Better build quality

Yes.. it should better be because apple costs more
than S3 (premium price)
But it comes down to personal preference. Tie

6.
Faster updates

True. But I did got Jelly Bean update in October
which is fine!

7.
Supported longer

False! Even older versions of android are supported
till date. Tie

8.
More apps

Yes! None the less not the number of apps but how
many useful apps are available matters and both have same. Tie

9.
Better version of apps

True and False!! Tie
Both have better versions and both have exclusive
apps

10.
More durable

This is a tie! Different drop tests shall reveal
different results

Score:
Apple – 3 Samsung – 1 Tie – 6

11.
Reversible charging port

False! Lighting charging port is definitely not
faster! Personally I prefer charging with any cable I have over dual side.
Anyways how many times can you fiddle on a two sided cable?

12.
Vibrate switch

False! This is just pure lack of research
Just keep pressing volume button down and it shall
go into vibrate mode or keep pressing power button and it shall multiple
options to work with, one of them is vibrate mode!

13.
Louder speaker

Really!! 2 to 5 dB may be

14.
Faster boot up, app speed, and
browser

True and False
Faster Boot up – If S3 has SD Card inserted then
iPhone is faster and Without SD card S3 is faster
The difference is of hardly few seconds!

App speed – iPhone launches app faster but in terms
of operation non-Add apps work faster in S3.

Browser – Iphone is not faster. It feels faster
because when it loads a web page it shows initial content quickly but it still
keeps on working where as S3 finishes with content display.

15.
Siri

Fasle!

Ok!.... Have you heard about GOOGLE NOW!
Its way better than Siri! And its predictive cards
are just awesome! It’s just been a few weeks use but it knows what I need...

16.
Raise to speak

I shall raise to speak with Siri and again bring my
phone down to see the results!! Sounds smart right? :p

Here Apple
copied S3’s raise to call feature!

17.
Reader feature in browser

True! I haven’t found any app alternative in S3.

False! Changing size of the text is simple and is
few touches away!

18.
Video compression for email

Personally, I have never required to email videos
and when you have S beam (NFC- Not just Samsung but all NFC capable devices can
share) where size doesn’t matter so don’t need email... for long distance tons
of video sharing options...

The more important this people attach on email are
documents and other format files which apple still doesn’t understand! Shame
here

19.
iTunes has larger media collection

True

20. Find my iPhone

Samsung Dive! And you can track not just by
proprietary I devices in iPhone but any browser which has access to internet!

(In fact lost phone security feature was first
available on Samsung phones around 4 years before iPhone existed!)

Apple – 2 Samsung – 4 Tie – 4

21.
More intuitive UI

Ok here it becomes interesting because
intuitiveness varies from person to person. Personally I don’t feel iPhone is
the most intuitive.

You get lot of custom launchers on android to suite your
personal choice of intuitiveness. Hence I shall say it’s False

22. Better 3D graphics

If eyes can’t make a difference out of two then
really does it matter!!

23. Game center

True

24. Apple store customer service

I haven’t faced problem in both devices so difficult to say but 400 centers worldwide for iPhone users is too large a number to solve issues: P

25.
No bloatware

True. There are non in iPhone

False... Some bloatware are good e.g. S3 Smart care
which can be used to diagnose problem issues before you seek assistance of
customer service

26. Built in emoji keyboard

False it may not be built in android but available
from play store for free and it shall work with not just few apps but any app you have on your phone. Honestly! iOS can’t compete with Android’s customization capabilities.

27.
Take pictures with volume button

Sometimes it feels good use volume button to click
pictures but saying “Cheese” and S3 clicking photos for you is just Awesome!

28. Tap to top in any app

True. In S3 double tap option is there in few apps

29. Multiple notification styles

No Doubt Notification are deep rooted within
android. iOS copied and trying new things but Android is simply too good,
extremely useful and very intuitive.

30. Spotlight search

False! Again Google Now has this.

Apple – 1 Samsung – 5 Tie – 4

31.
Read aloud highlighted text

False! Not built in built in available in play
store for ages

32. Guided access

True.....did anyone use this feature?

33. Privacy options

False! In application manager you can see the
access rights for every app.

34. Do not disturb

False! Blocking mode in S3

With play store app such as Tasker you can do
almost anything you can think of..

35.
Set restrictions

False! Again custom launchers have this
functionality.

36. Keyboard shortcuts

False! Again 3rd party apps have this functionality

37.
Lock screen options (camera, music,Siri)

False Hahaha!! Again is copied from Android. You can customize 4 apps that you want access from lock screen

38. Reminders by location

False!
With play store app such as Tasker you can do almost anything you can think of..

39. Easy access to photo gallery from camera

False this is silliest reason, Iphone has swipe
access and S3 has touch access.

40. Custom contact vibrations (Better
resale value)

Tie. Both have custom contact vibration feature.

Apple – 1 Samsung – 2 Tie – 7

41.
iMessage

False! This is only for iPhone user and S3 also has
similar messenger chatOn. I dislike both. There are better cross platform
messengers such as whatsApp, Viber, Skype etc.

42. VIP mailbox

Flase! Not just VIP but you can create any folder
like VIP 1 to VIP 100 :p in S3

43. Pop up notifications on lock screen

False! Both have it. In fact S3 goes a step further
and that is if you swipe on the notification and unlock your phone it shall
directly go to that app.

44. Airplay mirroring

Yes others don’t have it, but DLNA cross platform
is much better option which S3 has and many others but not iPhone.

45.
iTunes remote

Since S3 doesn’t have iTunes they thought it’s
better not to give a remote!!

You can voice control music player so no need for
any remote

46. iPod features (equalizer, shake to shuffle, etc)

Why are we talking about iPod feature here ;) still
these features are available in s3 music player

47.
Passbook

False! google wallet and 3rd party apps
like pass wallet available

48. More accessories available

True and False

You can have more accessories for iPhone to make it
beautiful from outside

You can have more accessories for S3 to make it
beautiful internally (No jail breaking or rooting)

49. Photo stream

Share shot and buddy photo share is way better than
photo stream.

50. Easy sync and backup with iCloud and iTunes

Both have this option. With
Iphone you are stuck with iTunes but with S3 multiple options are there which
is always good.

Apple – 2 Samsung – 5 Tie – 5

Total Score

Apple – 9 Samsung – 17 Tie – 24

So Finally!!
- There are 9 aspects of iPhone which are not available on S3 or better than S3
- There are 17 aspects of S3 which are not available on iPhone or better than
- There are 24 aspects of iPhone which are available on both S3 & iPhone in one or the other way.
 
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