Yes, but if I fully discharge it every time, I have no problems with it, and the battery health doesn’t suffer according to the radios own health checker.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
76.1% Battery Health after 201 cycles on iPad Pro 10.5
- Thread starter aakshey
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I have a Motorola VHF radio with a smart Li-ion battery and charger combination. If I run it to almost empty before recharging, then everything works fine. However, if I top the battery off regularly, after about 2-4 weeks, the radio will complain that the battery needs reconditioning. Next time I charge it, the charger will recondition the battery by fully discharging it before recharging.
I can stop the reconditioning process if I don’t have the 12 hours needed for the reconditioning, but if I put it off for too long, the battery meter will be all over the place, and eventually I have problems with operation.
Just saying, that some Li-ion batteries definitely do need a full discharge every now and again.
That has more to do with a poorly/cheaply designed charger than because of battery chemistry.
iPad batteries have a fuel gauge controller on the battery pack itself. The logic board on the iPad has another controller dedicated for charge management. Calibration charges are rarely necessary for iPad or iPhone.
There’s nothing cheap or poorly designed about this battery/charger combo. It’s the Motorola IMPRES charger and battery. They’re specifically designed to work together to prolong the life of the battery.
#1. I had a 2016 IPad Pro 9.7” and it had 20% battery wear Up until last Month stay tuned
#2. No matter what You think or Any Battery Apps says Apple Store will continue and Always Say It’s Fine no matter what. If you have AppleCare and Want a New IPad Pro because the battery is dying Good luck. Apple Will never agree, unless their Diagnostic software triggers which IMO it’s programed not to.
#3. Since I had AppleCare and knew Apple would never do anything about the battery which would have been a cheap fix. I accidentally rolled over my 9.7” IPad Pro with my SUV. 15 Min after arriving at the Apple Store I had a New 9.7” IPad Pro with 0% Battery wear Level and 0 Cycles. A tragedy avoided by purchasing AppleCare accidents do happen.
Last edited:
So......you “accidentally” rolled over your iPad with your SUV, then you had the audacity to........................come in here without pics!
I'm impressed; I probably would have done something similar.
Exactly, and this baby is packing I’ve tested as my OG IPad Pro 9.7” got 11 Hours Battery at times when it’s new.
Sorry, this is not true, the truth is the opposite. Never let your battery drain to 0, it is bad for the battery. Topping it to 100 is also relatively bad, but sometimes it can't be helped (overnight). Best method is to charge from 40-80 and keep it in that range. Also, charging with a slower charger is also better.
Once a month let your device drop to around 40% and charge it to full.
However, I wouldn't worry about any of that - charge how you like, but what you said is bad advice if you want to prolong your battery life.
[doublepost=1525028904][/doublepost]
Yes, this is true. Maybe you should've put it more mildly, though
But you are correct.
[doublepost=1525028904][/doublepost]
Yes, this is true. Maybe you should've put it more mildly, though
You are probably correct - but it was a newbie with only one post and who has yet to return since making the post.
Going the same direction. Quite sad since the Battery in my Macbook Pro is staying strong so well.
I keep my Macbook docked to a Elgato Thunderbolt station, which is the reason why my Ipad was mostly charged with 5 Watts from USB. Guess thats not that good for the health of the battery.
I keep my Macbook docked to a Elgato Thunderbolt station, which is the reason why my Ipad was mostly charged with 5 Watts from USB. Guess thats not that good for the health of the battery.
Fast and high watt chargers will charge your batteries FAST but proportionally run your battery to the ground FAST. Call me crazy but as soon as I learned this here (forgot who posted it here some time ago), I have been extremely picky in battery care and even use my iPhones' smaller battery 5W charger providing a slower 1A to charge my iPP. Currently, coconutBattery shows I still have 100% health and only 7 cycles. I've had my iPP since Thanksgiving with daily usage.
Special thanks to whoever gave that battery charging tip.
. I've had my iPP since Thanksgiving with daily usage.Special thanks to whoever gave that battery charging tip.
My Pro 10.5 was charged approx. 25-28/31 charges by 5W charger and still lost 8% after only 31 chargesFast and high watt chargers will charge your batteries FAST but proportionally run your battery to the ground FAST. Call me crazy but as soon as I learned this here (forgot who posted it here some time ago), I have been extremely picky in battery care and even use my iPhones' smaller battery 5W charger providing a slower 1A to charge my iPP. Currently, coconutBattery shows I still have 100% health and only 7 cycles
Special thanks to whoever gave that battery charging tip.
Sorry to hear that. I have an insane and picky way of taking care of my battery after reading that post (sorry i wish I saved or took a screenshot of it). I try to get plugged in as much as possible and it remains plugged all the time except when I'm out and about. A lot of people shun this method but it has been awesome for me so far. Even my Macs' batteries have lasted forever because of this. And I use my screen brightness all the way up in all my devices. The only downside I can think of from this method is it will make my battery meter wonky in showing the proper percentage. But a quick callibration someday is its remedy. I dont care for the meter anyway.My Pro 10.5 was charged approx. 25-28/31 charges by 5W charger and still lost 8% after only 31 charges
My key points: smallest battery charger, in this case the iPhone's 5W charger. Cable and charger should be strictly only from Apple. Power banks harm batteries more than helping. And finally and most important: slow charging and remain plugged in all the time.
Fast charging is horrible for battery health. Had a similar problem on my first gen 12.9 with the 29W charger.
Second gen 12.9 and I assume 10.5 actually charge with the 12W under load, so I’d stick with that. I sold my 29W charger on eBay and have stuck using a 12W and 5W (when not using) on my second gen 12.9 and have fantastic battery health.
Second gen 12.9 and I assume 10.5 actually charge with the 12W under load, so I’d stick with that. I sold my 29W charger on eBay and have stuck using a 12W and 5W (when not using) on my second gen 12.9 and have fantastic battery health.
In the RC racing and Drone world we use Lipo and Lithium Polymer batteries same as the iPhone uses or iPad just way bigger and can let out the Charge quicker
Think faucet vs fire hydrant.
The number 1 thing is never let you batter drain to Zero
The number 2 thins is never Overcharge your battery this is avoided on iPad pads and iPhones but in the hobby world Professional chargers let you regulate Huawei fast or slow you want to push the current into the battery pack. Can be explosive.
The number 3 thing is don’t damage the battery cells they are very sturdy but and IPhone or iPad can easily be bent and cause damage and premature wear or other odd things to a bent batttery.
Think faucet vs fire hydrant.
The number 1 thing is never let you batter drain to Zero
The number 2 thins is never Overcharge your battery this is avoided on iPad pads and iPhones but in the hobby world Professional chargers let you regulate Huawei fast or slow you want to push the current into the battery pack. Can be explosive.
The number 3 thing is don’t damage the battery cells they are very sturdy but and IPhone or iPad can easily be bent and cause damage and premature wear or other odd things to a bent batttery.
Do you know where this tip comes from? It comes from the 1980s/early 90s when "portable computers" used NiCad batteries. We don't use NiCad batteries in computers anymore.
I reported that post because it's completely false information concerning Li-Ion batteries.
Draining completely is bad.
Charging often and in small amounts is good.
My 12.9" 2nd gen was built in April of last year and purchased on launch day, 97% after 79 cycles. Considering it's almost a year, Battery health is just fine. It's the software bugs I have issues with.
Read the first post once again. If not, stay off this thread.
[doublepost=1525540123][/doublepost]Here's the deal:
If I am doing exactly one of the below, I can probably get around 8-9 hours of screen time on my iPads that Apple has diagnosed as 87% and 94% respectively.
1. Netflix on wifi, lightning EarPods, brightness around 40-50%
Or
2. Netflix on Pip but not using the iPad at all and same conditions as above
Or
3. Downloaded iTunes movie playback with same conditions as above
or
4. Geekbench 4 battery test with dim screen
87% - 4500 score
94% - 5000 score
Talking of battery scores. New Pros score 5500.
What reduces battery life?
Swapping EarPods for AirPods
Swapping EarPods for in built speakers full volume
Condition 2 with safari/mail multitasking. Then I barely make it to 7 hrs.
Is this normal?
[doublepost=1525540183][/doublepost]Also DFU restore fixed my throttling I guess
I’m inclined to agree with Sracer. For the first 6 months of my 10.5” iPad Pro’s life i used the 12w charger included. Since December I’ve used only Apple’s 29w adaptor. Per Coconut battery below.
I think you have a faulty unit as I have 93.5% capacity after 1 year. I think it’s still a bit gross I’ve but not as much as I was led to believe by reading these posts about the 29w.
Last edited:
If you do Safari and Mails via streaming NetFlix over WiFi as PiP, will your battery last over 8 hrs?
[doublepost=1525617407][/doublepost]
How long does your battery last while:
Doing Safari/Mails alongside Netflix on WiFi as PiP.
Will it last 8-9+ hrs?
[doublepost=1525617440][/doublepost]
How long does your battery last while:
Doing Safari/Mails alongside Netflix on WiFi as PiP.
Will it last 8-9+ hrs?
[doublepost=1525617470][/doublepost]
How long does your battery last while:
Doing Safari/Mails alongside Netflix on WiFi as PiP.
Will it last 8-9+ hrs?
[doublepost=1525617526][/doublepost]
How long does your battery last while:
Doing Safari/Mails alongside Netflix on WiFi as PiP.
Will it last 8-9+ hrs?
@aakshey I do not stream on my iPad and do not subscribe to netflix. Though I suppose maintaining that internet connection while streaming will cause a huge drain on the battery. I keep movies on my iPad to watch offline.
For my use with the pencil, bluetooth and safari it's anywhere from 7-9 hours. I haven't really timed when I also watch a movie though. If I game it's even less (and that's playing older games (Fruit Nina and Smash Hit) - I saw a little over 5 hours when using the pencil, bluetooth, wifi, typing and gaming.
I keep my wifi and bluetooth turned off whenever I am not using the iPad. That extends the battery life. I also do not use fast charge. I am perfectly fine letting my iPad Pro charge over several hours or overnight. I do not use my iPad constantly, so it will last 2 to 3 days before I have to charge.
For my use with the pencil, bluetooth and safari it's anywhere from 7-9 hours. I haven't really timed when I also watch a movie though. If I game it's even less (and that's playing older games (Fruit Nina and Smash Hit) - I saw a little over 5 hours when using the pencil, bluetooth, wifi, typing and gaming.
I keep my wifi and bluetooth turned off whenever I am not using the iPad. That extends the battery life. I also do not use fast charge. I am perfectly fine letting my iPad Pro charge over several hours or overnight. I do not use my iPad constantly, so it will last 2 to 3 days before I have to charge.
I’ve noticed that my battery lasts the same 7 hours with or without BT. However, multitasking does seem to reduce around 1.5-2+ hours from the battery life. But just NetFlix on Wifi Pip with Safari shouldn’t really be reducing the battery by like 2 hrs, right?
[doublepost=1525622507][/doublepost]I’m down to 70% in 2-2.5 hrs. After that it drains by a further 10% every 30-40 mins.