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MacProSector

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There is a better way and proved safe. My down clocked HD7970s are using similar power draw as HD7950s. No external power or 5.25" internal power needed. But OP's power arrangement is too dangerous, because both 6 pin together in one card should consume around 100-125 watts.

A better way is to spread to 2 SATA ports to protect the dual 6 pin circuits on board as in my arrangement for dual HD7970s.

Here is the link:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1732849/

Thank you!

The total power rate of the Mac Pro PSU is 980w, Closing to 1000. The power of the SATA slot also comes from the PSU. Isn't that the same? Besides, for my chair here, the power seem to be stable and safe. I have used the CrossFire for half a year and nothing happened! Thanks for replying!
 
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arn

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Wouldnt be so sure about that as you can read from netkas main page... I'll be right back once I'm done! Why are you so sure it won't work?

Cause this particular dongle has been tested https://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/18/bluetooth-le-adapters-handoff-no/ on a 2010 MacBook Air.

One forum member has shared details of their testing, noting that in tests with a 2010 MacBook Air that does not include built-in support for Bluetooth LE, adding IOGEAR's Bluetooth 4.0 USB Micro Adapter works out of the box to add Bluetooth LE support to the machine, but does not enable support for Continuity features such as Handoff or AirDrop.

The reason netkas's config worked is (I believe) that it was added internally, using original Apple hardware.

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Netkas 2008 and this experience in 2009 show a useful tidbit.

They are both using the EXACT SAME CARD from iMac 2013.

In 2008, it enables everything, nothing else needed.

In 2009, the Mini PCIE card no longer has USB so it must be added.

As far as "EXACT SAME CHIP", it doesn't matter.

A G92 in a WIndows machine is a 9500GT. IN an Apple it is a GT120. Why, due to differing subsystem and vendor ids.

Same here, have a look at the fine details. Your BT dongle has differing id numbers. In Apple's view, that is "non compliant"

So it won't work without a driver/kext hack.

I am certain that these will work, but hacking the kext with each update gets old. And the first time you forget, next boot it won't work until you do.

The Netkas/MacProSector route will ALWAYS WORK...as the device,vendor, and subsystem vendor ids are all Apple (106B)

If you enjoy hacking kexts with each and every update, buy the $10 dongle at CVS. If you want a permanent working solution, it is a little more difficult. And for once, the 2008 Mac Pro is the winner. I think we will find it works the same in 2006-7 as well.
 
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arn

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Seems like someone found a way around it!!!
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19253458/

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When you install the external Bluetooth device, you may need to force the system to be able to recognize it and switch the Bluetooth stack to using it. The way to do that is to run the following command in terminal:

sudo nvram bluetoothHostControllerSwitchBehavior="always"

This didn't work for us (with a USB dongle) when we tried it.

arn
 

Prince134

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Thank you!

The total power rate of the Mac Pro PSU is 980w, Closing to 1000. The power of the SATA slot also comes from the PSU. Isn't that the same? Besides, for my chair here, the power seem to be stable and safe. I have used the CrossFire for half a year and nothing happened! Thanks for replying!

It's from the same PSU. But it's from different part of circuits that supply the 12V to your cards.

I am trying to let you know that spreading one of 6 pin from each card to SATA ports is safer. It doesn't cost you more from buying 2 SATA to 6 pin cables, to buying dual 6pin Y cables. You can read the power draw from HWsensor and can know it by yourself. I think it's not hard to find a SATA to 6pin cable from your usual Taobou source.
 

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There is a thread at insanely, the ability to flash Apple ID onto Broadcom card has disappeared since the AC cards came out.

Lot of work once or a little bother often. To each his own.
 

MacProSector

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I am trying to let you know that spreading one of 6 pin from each card to SATA ports is safer. It doesn't cost you more from buying 2 SATA to 6 pin cables, to buying dual 6pin Y cables. You can read the power draw from HWsensor and can know it by yourself. I think it's not hard to find a SATA to 6pin cable from your usual Taobou source.

Understood! But I think there is no problem with my current plan so, I don't need to spend time and do it again for an almost same performance, right? Anyway, thanks for your suggestions!:D:D:):)
 
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MacProSector

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Hmm.... That is actually a similar plan. A USB dongle made by an Apple card. That is more convenient. However, I prefer the internal plan because I think that build-in antenna system is more power and hiding the chips inside the machine is more elegant in looking, isn't it hahaha:D:D. That is my perspective. Just for references:):). I will add this link to the main article. Thank you for your contribution!!
 

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bt4

but, for internal option i need the adapter and a imac mpci card right?
btw the link you put in the first post, it is the adapter or module imac.
when I click the image it displays is bluetooth and wifi module does not seem to be the adapter.
 

MacProSector

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but, for internal option i need the adapter and a imac mpci card right?
btw the link you put in the first post, it is the adapter or module imac.
when I click the image it displays is bluetooth and wifi module does not seem to be the adapter.

Man, I have put the link you offered into the first post.

Ok, That link I put in first post do contain both the iMac card and convert card. It is the seller that didn't put out the pictures of convert card. I will put the seller's email into the first post later so you guys could contact him directly (he speaks English). Wish you success!
 

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Man, I have put the link you offered into the first post.

Ok, That link I put in first post do contain both the iMac card and convert card. It is the seller that didn't put out the pictures of convert card. I will put the seller's email into the first post later so you guys could contact him directly (he speaks English). Wish you success!

perfect, many thanks...
 

jameslmoser

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I'm assuming that this would also work in a 2009 Mac Pro? Also, Instead of doing all the USB soldering, etc, would it work if instead of using the internal mini PCIe, using an miniPCI to PCIe adapter card with external antennas? something like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057UPNBE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AXIU85VG19YP3

Also, just out of curiosity, do you think apple is going to add support for any third party dongles or provide any other possible solutions for the cMP? It will be pretty sad in my opinion if they don't considering they were still selling this a year ago.
 

MacProSector

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I'm assuming that this would also work in a 2009 Mac Pro? Also, Instead of doing all the USB soldering, etc, would it work if instead of using the internal mini PCIe, using an miniPCI to PCIe adapter card with external antennas? something like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057UPNBE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AXIU85VG19YP3

Also, just out of curiosity, do you think apple is going to add support for any third party dongles or provide any other possible solutions for the cMP? It will be pretty sad in my opinion if they don't considering they were still selling this a year ago.

First, thanks for replying!

YES, this plan do will work on 2009 Mac Pro because the designs of backplane boards of Mac Pro 2010 and 2009 are close.

Yeah! the PCIe adapter will work. However, you need to use the Apple-made card such as the one I introduced. But from my perspective, the appearance could be a little bit strange at a glance, right?:D:D Those antennas. Well, I prefer the internal plan probably because of the appearances.:):)
 
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A 2010 MBP, shouldn't but can

Had to turn off and turn on BT to get USB dongle to override the internal, but it did

We will be offering this setup shortly, very similar to the USB offering from China but assembled in California.

Will work in any Mac that can run Yosemite
 

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MacProSector

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A 2010 MBP, shouldn't but can

Had to turn off and turn on BT to get USB dongle to override the internal, but it did

We will be offering this setup shortly, very similar to the USB offering from China but assembled in California.

Will work in any Mac that can run Yosemite

Nice job! Congratulations! Notify me please when you release the setup!
 

EvilMonk

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First, thanks for replying!

YES, this plan do will work on 2009 Mac Pro because the mother board of Mac Pro2010 and 2009 is COMPLETELY the same!

Yeah! the PCIe adapter will work. However, you need to use the Apple-made card such as the one I introduced. But from my perspective, the appearance could be a little bit strange at a glance, right?:D:D Those antennas. Well, I prefer the internal plan probably because of the appearances.:):)

FALSE, first there is no motherboard in the Mac Pro 2009, 2010 or 2012. Its a pair, you have a backplane board and a CPU board on a tray. The backplane board might be close to being the same but the processor board is quite different between the 2009 (4,1) and 2010 models (5,1) I know I have both.
The heatsinks are very different... the 2009 model use lidless processors (Without the IHS, integrated heat spreader) The heatsink mounting supports are also different, parts between the 2009 and 2010 Mac Pro for the processor board are not compatible.
The backplane board is also different on the point that the SMC is not the same. If you use a 2010 CPU board with a 2009 backplane board it will set the fans to maximum throttle and will cause more noise than anyone can stand sitting next to. The same is also true if you use a 2010 backplane board with a 2009 CPU board. Beside that the mini-PCIe slot is located exactly at the same location on the backplane board but it is totally false to say that the 2009 and 2010 Mac Pro motherboard are the same, neither the backplane or CPU board are the same...

And you can flash a mac pro 2009 to the efi of a 2010 but you can't flash the SMC version to be the same for a 2009 backplane and a 2010 CPU tray or vice-versa.
 
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m4v3r1ck

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Awesome!!!

A 2010 MBP, shouldn't but can
Had to turn off and turn on BT to get USB dongle to override the internal, but it did. We will be offering this setup shortly, very similar to the USB offering from China but assembled in California.

Will work in any Mac that can run Yosemite

GREAT news guys and a big thank you to all for doing a lot of work and stay focused to get this done!

~ Cheers
 
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MacProSector

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I have update the article, killed some bugs and mistakes, added the pictures to the middle of the article and made the article easier to read! Welcome to read this guide, thank you!:D:):apple:
 

Richdmoore

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First, I wanted to thank you for an amazing job in modifying this card for your Mac Pro.

I am interested in the USB dongle solution listed for an 2011 iMac. (I don't want to crack open the iMac for an internal solution, if it is even possible.)

Of course I can't read Chinese, so i was unable to determine the approximate US price (with shipping) or if it is working for other iMac users. Is there a US importer of this product? What is the approximate price, and does it include the apple card as well?

Thanks!
 
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