I could say the exact same thing about the other side of this debate… And meanwhile, Apple Intelligence runs beautifully on my 8GB M1 Mac…
Not that many. Maybe the MS surface laptop, but that does not mean it is ok, nor is its 8GB version 2000 euros….Some brands might offer very cheap 8GB versions (<400 euros). But often you can actually upgrade them yourself. Ram is cheap.
It’s not just Surface, I don’t know of a single reputable computer company that doesn’t still make a computer with 8GB of RAM… Just about every known brand of computer (Microsoft Surface, HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc.). And many of those brands have similar RAM upgrade prices. And it apparently is okay with many base-spec customers. Otherwise one would expect to see sales of base models falling off, and low customer satisfaction…
Again, at what price point? A Lenovo thin and light is 720 euros: .https://www.lenovo.com/nl/nl/configurator/cto/index.html?bundleId=83J2CTO1WWNL1 Upgrade to 512GB costs 20 euro (!). Default is 16gb, but you can actually downgrade to 8GB to save 30 euros. The latter tells you that Lenovo does not want to sell a 8GB unless the customer explicitly asks for it. Because they know: 8 GB is sub par, just like a car without Airco: gets the job done, but not the nicest ride in many circumstances.
On Windows craptops with antiquated X86 technology 8GB doesn’t run as well (in part also to bloat from Windows). Apple tailor makes macOS for their hardware, so macOS with M1 chips and 8GB of RAM performs differently than Windows computers with 8GB. I’ve seen the difference first-hand. 8GB M1 Macs even outperform prior gen Intel Macs with 16GB of RAM in many cases… And it’s not Apple’s fault that the Euro is so inflated. These MacBooks are only $1,400 in US dollars which is very reasonable for a laptop with this hardware. And a “Lenovo thin and light” doesn’t offer the same quality display, the same battery runtime, the same quality of sound system, etc. Again, the price is not only driven by RAM, but by the premium hardware…
And many will simply continue to use their Mac like they always have and not care about Apple AI. Their use case hasn’t change just because Apple rolled out a new feature.
And as I already noted, I’m currently testing the Apple Intelligence betas, and Apple Intelligence is running perfectly fine, and I’m using an 8GB M1 Mac.
I edited a video clip with my M1 MBA yesterday.
Sure - beautifully
- i really would prefer performant - but that's, of course, only me...The performance is actually great! But I’d almost be willing to bet you haven’t even tried Apple Intelligence on a Mac yet…Sure - beautifully
Simply let's wait some months and then we can talk again - if you then still really want to...
Yes but not at 1700 euros.
And I once opened a calculator on an IBM XT.I edited a video clip with my M1 MBA yesterday.
They’re not “stupid reasons” they’re very good reasons. There’s nothing “disrespectful” to the end user in offering an option that thousands of end users buy and enjoy. By that “logic”, they should only offer one RAM configuration at 128GB so they don’t “disrespect” end users by offering any lower configurations. Get ready to shell out quite a bit of cash… 🙄
You don't know thousands of end users. Nope, you adapt to the standard, Apple doesn't exist in a vacuum so let's not pretend like it does.
Of course I don’t know thousands of base-spec customers, but the evidence indicates that the base-spec model is selling very well compared to the other configurations. And if you think it’s a bad value, you don’t have to buy it. But many think it is a good value, and do buy it. It offers the nicer hardware that used to only be available for $2,000 at a major price decrease to $1,400. Just repeatedly claiming it’s a “bad product” doesn’t make it so….
Buying a penthouse except there's only one squat toilet in the entire building. That's how the 8GB MacBook Pro sounds.
Another ridiculous and silly analogy that’s completely meaningless and irrelevant…
That was some IBM XT you had. Mine all maxed out at 640KB. And it wasn’t inexpensive.
You see, I pointed out how a luxury product can easily become a liability because of the way it's being marketed. It works pretty well for both examples.
No mental gymnastics involved. The mental gymnastics are trying to argue you know better how to run Apple than Apple does…. Since you seem to dislike Apple so much, why do you hang out in an Apple fan forum?
Yes in this particular case I would have ran Apple better than their management. I'm confident in saying that, since I'd probably have more respect for the kind of person who buys such a laptop.
How many globally traded multibillion dollar companies have you run? 😂
as many as the number of users who benefit from the 8GB macbook pro compared to 16GB.
