Well, milking Skyrim with all those re-releases is one thing. The way they handled Fallout 76 though, that’s the real screamer.
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A gamer's lament: Apple please let us game on the Mac!
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Well, milking Skyrim with all those re-releases is one thing. The way they handled Fallout 76 though, that’s the real screamer.
Like I said, there are more to games than Call of Duties and Cyberpunk. I play Persona 4 Golden too. And Final Fantasy X. These are old titles that can run in nearly anything.
They don’t have the same control over ID like activision has on Blizzard it seems. I meant they are OK in that regard, can still let iD do what they want mostly. And Doom 2016 is way better than Doom 3 mess.
I have it on Playstation so I can't say on the PC Port side.
Shut your mouth. Doom 3 brought us (still fake) stencil shadows in games and was glorious (ly scripted).
I'm playing through it at the moment and I'm really enjoying it. The port seems fine but my gaming system is quite high end so I don't know if there are any issues with other spec systems. I don't like it as much as Tomb Raider or Rise of the Tomb Raider (not played the third yet but really looking forward to it) but I love it compared to the other AAA game I've played recently, which is Fallen Order, which I loathed and stopped playing. I've just bought Control and Cyberpunk in the Steam Summer Sale so I'll play those in the coming months.
I just started Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Steam Summer Sale for the win), I like it so far. Fallen Order was too close to Demon Souls (in punshment for failure plus the over reliance on parrying) for some folk, for sure.
I'll be using GeForce Now anyway, so I should be fine...
edit: ah, it does't seem like it's supported on GeForce now, that's a shame
Looking at the games I've played over the past few months (after playing nothing but WoW for years), a surprising number of them are available for MacOS:
Papers Please - MacOS and iOS available
Return of the Obra Dinn - MacOS available
Tomb Raider - MacOS available
Outer Wilds - not available
Rise of the Tomb Raider - MacOS available
Disco Elysium Final Cut - MacOS available
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - not available
Horizon Zero Dawn - not available
It's a shame Horizon Zero Dawn and Outer Wilds aren't on the Mac as they're both great games. Horizon uses it's own engine which hasn't been ported yet though. In general, games that are more graphically demanding aren't being ported over to the Mac but that could change with the added baseline performance that Apple Silicon gives for graphical power. If you've already got an Unreal Engine 4 game, even though the MacOS market share is way smaller than the PC market place, it doesn't take *that much* effort to port it over to the Mac and the cost to do so will likely be way less than even that small Mac gaming market share would generate in revenue. The main problem has always been that the baseline graphics performance for new macs with Intel has been literal *******.
Papers Please - MacOS and iOS available
Return of the Obra Dinn - MacOS available
Tomb Raider - MacOS available
Outer Wilds - not available
Rise of the Tomb Raider - MacOS available
Disco Elysium Final Cut - MacOS available
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - not available
Horizon Zero Dawn - not available
It's a shame Horizon Zero Dawn and Outer Wilds aren't on the Mac as they're both great games. Horizon uses it's own engine which hasn't been ported yet though. In general, games that are more graphically demanding aren't being ported over to the Mac but that could change with the added baseline performance that Apple Silicon gives for graphical power. If you've already got an Unreal Engine 4 game, even though the MacOS market share is way smaller than the PC market place, it doesn't take *that much* effort to port it over to the Mac and the cost to do so will likely be way less than even that small Mac gaming market share would generate in revenue. The main problem has always been that the baseline graphics performance for new macs with Intel has been literal *******.
If you use the word "prove" differently than most.
Except the ones who don't.
Seeing the responses and arguments in this thread honestly makes me question the point of wanting more big games on the Mac. The PCMR crowd will always be smug ***** about PCs being “better”.
The computing world doesn’t revolve around gaming and it shouldn’t anyway. This trend of rating computer power by fps in AAA games is absurd and myopic. If Apple Silicon runs Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator faster than Intel while not setting fire to my balls then I’m happy.
PC guys, congratulations. You win, PCs play modern casino games better than Macs. You get to be called racial slurs in League of Legends at 200fps. Enjoy your lootboxes.
The computing world doesn’t revolve around gaming and it shouldn’t anyway. This trend of rating computer power by fps in AAA games is absurd and myopic. If Apple Silicon runs Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator faster than Intel while not setting fire to my balls then I’m happy.
PC guys, congratulations. You win, PCs play modern casino games better than Macs. You get to be called racial slurs in League of Legends at 200fps. Enjoy your lootboxes.
Just for a fun exercise, go look at prices for any gpu more powerful than a 1050ti (baseline better than the M1) and report back with the prices. Then tell me the cost for a Mac mini with the M1.
Now piece together a whole build. I’ll wait.
Now piece together a whole build. I’ll wait.
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Do you know that M1 doesn't perform as good as 1050TI in real life? Not only that, AMD's iGPU can perform as goo as M1 so what's the point?
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I would like Apple to get AAA games so I don't have to buy PC hardware to get the best experience, personally. It is nice I only paid 12 dollars for Metro Exodus, but it would chap me to see that the PC gets the best version for the same money. (IE the Mac version should be less expensive since it isn't be best experience).
PC guys will never accept Mac users. To them the whole world revolves around gaming. If it can’t game, it’s ****.
Gotta pay to play I guess. The best experience on PC costs several thousand and climbing with MSRP between Nvidia and AMD.
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DaVinci Resolve 17 + M1 Macs - Can You Edit 8K RAW in Real-Time?
Apple’s M1 chip promises impressive performance gains for all users, but how does it hold up with 8K raw video in DaVinci Resolve 17?
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Davinci resolve looks like it agrees with me. I didn’t want to bring FCP or Logoc into this since they’re native.
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Davinci resolve is not a game, dude. I thought we are talking about games huh? I guess you have no proofs to support you claim.DaVinci Resolve 17 + M1 Macs - Can You Edit 8K RAW in Real-Time?
Apple’s M1 chip promises impressive performance gains for all users, but how does it hold up with 8K raw video in DaVinci Resolve 17?
Davinci resolve looks like it agrees with me. I didn’t want to bring FCP or Logoc into this since they’re native.
I was refuting your statement, in which the M1 only does well in benchmarks.
But if you just wanna talk games then sure, not many games run well on it. Nothing running through a layer of emulation runs well.
In regards to your other statements in this thread, the reason PC is much bigger than MacOS for gaming is because of its ubiquity. Apple provides apis and tools to program for their OS (from what people tell me, good tools too) what devs do with them is on them.
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The only game out for Mac right now that’s interesting for benchmarks is Metro Exodus. And it runs quite well on M1, you get around 80-90% of the performance of an Nvidia GTX 1650 Max-Q (a GPU that draws three times the power). Not to bad for a 10W GPU running on a system RAM, in a game that runs on a non-native CPU architecture and uses an API layer.
Exactly. Metro: Exodus is an illustration that a baseline consumer Mac can achieve acceptable performance on a modern FPS game. It’s not stellar, it won‘t satisfy a hardcore gaming enthusiast, but it’s sufficient for an average home user who plays games casually. You don’t get this performance from any productivity-oriented x86-based laptops in the same price range.
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And yet, Metro Exodus for Mac released after a few years and the optimization is poor compared to PC. Also, you have to pay more to buy Mac with less GPU power. So who would want to port their games to Mac by wasting their time and money?
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Runs better on a Mac than on PCs in the same class, so again no idea what you are trying to say.
Whut? Show me a PC laptop with that kind of performance, display quality and battery life for less than what a MacBook Air costs.
There are enough companies making decent money by making Mac ports, even today, where only few Macs have decent hardware for gaming. Few years down the line, when the number of game-capable Macs will increase by a factor of five, it will be even more lucrative. We will see.