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The size of the X is perfect for me.

The only thing that could get me to move to the X Plus would be if dual-sim is exclusive to that model.
 
Face ID is horrible imo. If it works for you, great.

Sold my X on eBay yesterday and bought an 8 plus once I found out the new phones won’t have Touch ID.

I'm in the same boat. The act of constantly bring your phone to your face was just annoying for me. Touch ID just worked better and is more easier to use. Went back to the 8 plus and sold my X. Thinking of stocking up on another 8 Plus if there are no more touch id phones in the future.
 
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Face ID is horrible imo. If it works for you, great.

Sold my X on eBay yesterday and bought an 8 plus once I found out the new phones won’t have Touch ID.

Then you will be keeping your iPhone 8 for quite some time, because touch ID is not any part of Apples future, which they made that clear multiple times when discussing Face ID.
 
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I have both the X and the 8 Plus, and quite honestly I much prefer the X over the 8 Plus. Since my 8 Plus is on iUP, I will be upgrading that to either the 5.8 or the Plus size. However I may stick with the 5.8 as the case will likely be the same and don't have to waste another dime on getting a bigger case.
 
Happy with the leap/reduced bezels/FaceID? Or ready to go X(s) plus size?

Are you missing or Ready to go back to the standard 4.7/5.5 16:9 and TouchID?

I'm generally happy however
Phone feels very heavy, much heavier than my previous iPhone 6. I wear leather case on it and it feels even heavier than my wife's iPhone 7 plus (also in case).

I like face id, but when you use apple pay touch id is more convenient.
 
I'm generally happy however
Phone feels very heavy, much heavier than my previous iPhone 6. I wear leather case on it and it feels even heavier than my wife's iPhone 7 plus (also in case).

I like face id, but when you use apple pay touch id is more convenient.

It is lighter than 7plus but due to how packed and dense it feels, it feels actually heavier to me too

174g vs 188g
 
I’ve had my X since launch and I love it. I’ve had every Plus model since the 6+, and at first it was a huge transition to using Face ID, not having a home button and a smaller phone. I love how bright the screen is and Face ID works 98% of the time for me. Apple Pay transactions are quick and painless. The X has been the best iPhone I’ve purchased since 2011. I have no plans to upgrade next month even though I’ve been paying attention to the rumors regarding the X+. I know once I see it in person, I’m going to miss the size of the Plus models. Plus I purchased 18 cases for my X and don’t want to waste my money. I’ll just another skin to give me a new color and switch up the cases I have. Next year I’ll upgrade to whatever X+ model is released with my fingers crossed that they bring the color Rose Gold back. Rose Gold is what made me pay off my 7+ and keep it as a back up.
 
Then you will be keeping your iPhone 8 for quite some time, because touch ID is not any part of Apples future, which they made that clear multiple times when discussing Face ID.

Wrong. They’re already making Touch ID in the screen supposedly coming in 2019.
 
I love it. The only thing i need from my phone is dark mode, bigger screen and bigger battery. like 4000 mah. iphone batteries get destroyed by videos.
 
Wrong. They’re already making Touch ID in the screen supposedly coming in 2019.

Telling me I’m wrong without providing a source proving what you posted doesn’t make for a useful discussion. Also, how can you tell me I’m ‘wrong’ when you’re Making a claim like ‘supposedly’ in your post? That doesn’t make any sense.

That said, I can provide sources exactly how you’re wrong. Also, for the record, Apple, more specifically Tim Cook last year during that fall Keynote, that Face ID _is_ Apple’s future.

Furthermore, Apple completely decided against Touch ID under the display. That was a direct quote from Dan Riccio, the senior VP of hardware engineering.

Quote from Dan Riccio:

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/10/31/apple-never-worked-on-rear-inscreen-touch-id/

“I heard some rumor that we couldn’t get Touch ID to work through the glass so we had to remove that. When we hit early line of sight on getting Face ID to be as good as it was, we knew that if we could be successful we could enable the product that we wanted to go off and do and if that’s true it could be something that we could burn the bridges and be all in with. This is assuming it was a better solution.

And that’s what we did. So we spent no time looking at fingerprints on the back or through the glass or on the side because if we did those things, which would be a last-minute change, they would be a distraction relative to enabling the more important thing that we were trying to achieve, which was Face ID done in a high-quality way.”
 
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Never going back. I've had every iPhone since iPhone 4 and I don't miss any of the old form factors. The X is perfect IMO, but I will definitely be getting the 6.5" OLED this year.
 
Telling me I’m wrong without providing a source proving what you posted doesn’t make for a useful discussion. Also, how can you tell me I’m ‘wrong’ when you’re Making a claim like ‘supposedly’ in your post? That doesn’t make any sense.

That said, I can provide sources exactly how you’re wrong. Also, for the record, Apple, more specifically Tim Cook last year during that fall Keynote, that Face ID _is_ Apple’s future.

Furthermore, Apple completely decided against Touch ID under the display. That was a direct quote from Dan Riccio, the senior VP of hardware engineering.

Quote from Dan Riccio:

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/10/31/apple-never-worked-on-rear-inscreen-touch-id/

“I heard some rumor that we couldn’t get Touch ID to work through the glass so we had to remove that. When we hit early line of sight on getting Face ID to be as good as it was, we knew that if we could be successful we could enable the product that we wanted to go off and do and if that’s true it could be something that we could burn the bridges and be all in with. This is assuming it was a better solution.

And that’s what we did. So we spent no time looking at fingerprints on the back or through the glass or on the side because if we did those things, which would be a last-minute change, they would be a distraction relative to enabling the more important thing that we were trying to achieve, which was Face ID done in a high-quality way.”
If you think Face ID is the the end of the road, and that Apple is NEVER going to implement any other identification methods, you’re just wrong.
Yes, I clearly stated the Touch ID in the screen was a rumor. Just like Face ID was before it came out.
 
If you think Face ID is the the end of the road, and that Apple is NEVER going to implement any other identification methods, you’re just wrong.


Please don’t interject things that were never said in this discussion. Tim Cook said Face ID _is_Apple future, we are not talking about any other future biometric security options ahead of Face ID.

Just for the record, this discussion is about what you said below, which is completely *false* and was debunked by Apple themselves. But since you decided not to provide a source, there Will be no in screen touch ID option for the future, that was already made clear by Dan Riccio.


Wrong. They’re already making Touch ID in the screen supposedly coming in 2019.

And........


Yes, I clearly stated the Touch ID in the screen was a rumor.

No, you didn’t. You made a statement without backing up with the source and you were proven wrong. What you said below was a statement, you never indicated anything about a rumor. Again, its untrue.

Wrong. They’re already making Touch ID in the screen supposedly coming in 2019.
 
Hahahahaha. Ok Apple Forum Master. Thanks for pointing out that I didn’t source my two sentence statement. We should all turn to you for everything, since you somehow know for a fact that in the coming years, Touch ID in screen won’t be coming, based off one quote. Which btw, when does Apple EVER confirm or deny rumors of upcoming projects?? Especially iPhone related ones.
 
Which btw, when does Apple EVER confirm or deny rumors of upcoming projects?? Especially iPhone related ones.

Fact is, that wasn’t the point of the discussion above. What you said about touch ID for the 2019 iPhone is completely false and that’s not even a reality, this has nothing to do with a rumor or anything else, when I showed you *specifically* what Apple replied about touch ID in the display not being something for consideration in the future. Face ID is their future, regardless of what you want to believe.
 
Fact is, that wasn’t the point of the discussion above. What you said about touch ID for the 2019 iPhone is completely false and that’s not even a reality, this has nothing to do with a rumor or anything else, when I showed you *specifically* what Apple replied about touch ID in the display not being something for consideration in the future. Face ID is their future, regardless of what you want to believe.
I said it was SUPPOSEDLY (hence, rumor) coming in 2019, how can you confirm that’s false??? Just because you found one quote on the Internet?? Gotcha. We haven’t even seen the 2018 iPhones yet, but you already known what’s coming with the 2019 iPhones. Mr iPhone Fortune Teller over here. Woudnt be the first time when asked of a rumor, they said “it’s not a part of our future” (aka corporate question dodge) when in fact it WAS part of their future.

What if a Face ID ONLY iOS lineup is a flop and doesn’t sell well? (Kinda like the X, Apple CUT production on it back in January because they weren’t selling well) You don’t think Apple is going to pivot and move in a new direction, like they always do, to keep people buying a brand new phone every single year?
 
I said it was SUPPOSEDLY (hence, rumor) coming in 2019, how can you confirm that’s false??? Just because you found one quote on the Internet??

This will be my last reply, but I find it baffling how you can’t admit what you said was completely false, and Apple stated, Tim Cook and other Apple executives (Federighi, Riccio) stated Touch ID under the display was always Plan B and face ID was plan A, and they have no current plans for Touch ID in the display in the future. The quote above debunked exactly what you said about they were ‘working on touch ID for the display for the 2019 iPhone’, when that was not even true remotely what you posted, which the direct Apple source I provided your post inaccurate. For The record, asked you for a source and you never provided one given the fact that you stated:

You _can’t_ tell someone they are wrong if you can’t back your own statement up with a source.


Wrong. They’re already making Touch ID in the screen supposedly coming in 2019.
 
This will be my last reply, but I find it baffling how you can’t admit what you said was completely false, and Apple stated, Tim Cook and other Apple executives (Federighi, Riccio) stated Touch ID under the display was always Plan B and face ID was plan A, and they have no current plans for Touch ID in the display in the future. The quote above debunked exactly what you said about they were ‘working on touch ID for the display for the 2019 iPhone’, when that was not even true remotely what you posted, which the direct Apple source I provided your post inaccurate. For The record, asked you for a source and you never provided one given the fact that you stated:

You _can’t_ tell someone they are wrong if you can’t back your own statement up with a source.
Haha. Ok. With your logic, if I found one single quote from a website, that makes it credible.

Here’s one from forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanba...int-reader-smaller-notch-report/#778822454f76
 
if Face ID came out first, and THEN Touch ID came out - everyone would say Touch ID is better. Its faster and more reliable.

Just because its newer doesn't mean its an improvement.
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This will be my last reply, but I find it baffling how you can’t admit what you said was completely false, and Apple stated, Tim Cook and other Apple executives (Federighi, Riccio) stated Touch ID under the display was always Plan B and face ID was plan A, and they have no current plans for Touch ID in the display in the future. The quote above debunked exactly what you said about they were ‘working on touch ID for the display for the 2019 iPhone’, when that was not even true remotely what you posted, which the direct Apple source I provided your post inaccurate. For The record, asked you for a source and you never provided one given the fact that you stated:

You _can’t_ tell someone they are wrong if you can’t back your own statement up with a source.
Heres a more recent one, written less than a month ago, covering the patent Apple filed. Again I’m using FORBES as my source, have you ever heard of them?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...ate-price-cost-face-id-touch-id/#36758801647a
 
I said it was SUPPOSEDLY (hence, rumor) coming in 2019, how can you confirm that’s false??? Just because you found one quote on the Internet?? Gotcha. We haven’t even seen the 2018 iPhones yet, but you already known what’s coming with the 2019 iPhones. Mr iPhone Fortune Teller over here. Woudnt be the first time when asked of a rumor, they said “it’s not a part of our future” (aka corporate question dodge) when in fact it WAS part of their future.

What if a Face ID ONLY iOS lineup is a flop and doesn’t sell well? (Kinda like the X, Apple CUT production on it back in January because they weren’t selling well) You don’t think Apple is going to pivot and move in a new direction, like they always do, to keep people buying a brand new phone every single year?

You have to understand, at last year's keynote they put a graphic up showing that the chance of someone else unlocking your phone with TouchID is 1:50,000 while with FaceID it's 1:1,000,000.

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It doesn't take much thought to realize that based on something like that - in addition to what Relentless already pointed out - TouchID is never coming back. Instead, FaceID is going to get better and better. This isn't that hard of a concept to grasp.
 
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You have to understand, at last year's keynote they put a graphic up showing that the chance of someone else unlocking your phone with TouchID is 1:50,000 while with FaceID it's 1:1,000,000.

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It doesn't take much thought to realize that based on something like that - in addition to what Relentless already pointed out - TouchID is never coming back. Instead, FaceID is going to get better and better. This isn't that hard of a concept to grasp.
Yea that looked great at the keynote. Too bad siblings who aren’t twins and people across Asia can unlock other people’s phones. Look it up, it’s a mess.

I actually hope and want Face ID to be better! If it worked as well as Touch ID I wouldn’t be complaining! IMO it does not, and i don’t think I’m alone on that. I’m very curious to see what the year to date sales will be in the new iPhones. Obviously out the gate they’ll sell well. But I think Face ID made a lot of people skeptical of the technology.
 
Yea that looked great at the keynote. Too bad siblings who aren’t twins and people across Asia can unlock other people’s phones. Look it up, it’s a mess.
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You’re digging for any any reasons to disparage against Face ID, because you really don’t have much of an argument. I could make the same counter argument that Touch ID Could be hacked as well. Both biometric forms of secure are reliable, but both were never perfect either. As another member already alluded to and provided a demographic fact, the ratio of some unlocking your phone is far less than with Face ID than it is with Touch ID. Regardless, You seem to be dismissive of Face ID simply because you don’t like it, as you said “Face ID is horrible.”

I think Face ID made a lot of people skeptical of the technology.

A lot of people? Based on a tech forum or people you know? That’s like me saying “I think Face ID made a lot of people confident of the technology”. That’s nothing more than an anecdotal opinion, again, you made it evident you don’t like Face ID. No need to start drawing randomized conclusions based off what you think. Are there _some_naturally skeptical of Face ID? Absolutely. But I’m will to believe Apples ratio of successful iPhone sales with the iPhone X is far greater with customers being happy with their experience with Face ID than they are negative.
 
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if Face ID came out first, and THEN Touch ID came out - everyone would say Touch ID is better. Its faster and more reliable.

Just because its newer doesn't mean its an improvement.
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Heres a more recent one, written less than a month ago, covering the patent Apple filed. Again I’m using FORBES as my source, have you ever heard of them?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...ate-price-cost-face-id-touch-id/#36758801647a
Forbes are known for pushing out endless clickbait articles full of baseless speculation and opinion. I wouldn’t be quoting them to try and back up any arguments because it will only make you look even more wrong.
 
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You’re digging for any any reasons to disparage against Face ID, because you really don’t have much of an argument. I could make the same counter argument that Touch ID Could be hacked as well. Both biometric forms of secure are reliable, but both were never perfect either. As another member already alluded to and provided a demographic fact, the ratio of some unlocking your phone is far less than with Face ID than it is with Touch ID. Regardless, You seem to be dismissive of Face ID simply because you don’t like it, as you said “Face ID is horrible.”

A lot of people? Based on a tech forum or people you know? That’s like me saying “I think Face ID made a lot of people confident of the technology”. That’s nothing more than an anecdotal opinion, again, you made it evident you don’t like Face ID. No need to start drawing randomized conclusions based off what you think. Are there _some_naturally skeptical of Face ID? Absolutely. But I’m will to believe Apples ratio of successful iPhone sales with the iPhone X is far greater with customers being happy with their experience with Face ID than they are negative.
Not really understanding why you're on this crusade to defend Face ID. As I mentioned earlier, if Face ID came out first, and Touch ID was the "new" innovation to the iPhone, you'd say Touch ID was better.
You realize the iPhone X didn't sell well right?
Also, it took me 2 seconds to see that you've been arguing your Face ID stance in several other forums of people bashing it, don't act like Face ID is some roaring success and everyone loves it. Most people on here say "I don't mind it"
 
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