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jamojamo

macrumors 6502
Feb 12, 2010
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I think its for you to move to the dark side now.

aka leave this forum cause...

I dont think you'll find much discussion here about Android.

androidcentral here u gooo

You dont think he will find much discussion about Android here? You mean in the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" forum. About all you see are people comparing their latest phone to the iPhone and of course the iPhone is seen to be sorely lacking.

But all in all, most threads end up in the same Android rocks/iOS sucks vs iOS rules/Android sucks debate and usually by post 5 of a thread you've seen the last of any useful information.

I honestly think the OP is just looking for some instant "street cred" here is the forum by bashing the iPhone. Who knows for sure though.
 

pertusis1

macrumors 6502
Jul 25, 2010
455
161
Texas
love it!!!

You: I hate my iPhone 5 because I received one with a defective sleep/wake button and refuse to have it replaced under warranty because I'm crazy. I will also confuse build quality and quality control and claim that the product with the best build quality in the industry has the worst. I also think that an inferior phone is somehow better because people own it...

Me: Right.

Here's another convo you might be interested in, this one based on a real conversation:


Consumer #1: Yeah as a long time iPhone owner I ditched it for the Galaxy S3 this time around, they say it's much better.

Consumer #2: I've heard the same thing.

Consumer #1: Yeah it's great!

Skeptic: How is it much better?

Consumer #1: Because the screen is better.

Skeptic: No it's not. The S3 screen is a very cheap unit. If you rock the display left to right for example on the S3 you'll see that the color violently changes to weird tones from just a few degrees away from the viewing angle. On top of that if you look at the colors they're completely off and messed up on the S3.

Consumer #1: What do you mean the colors are messed up?

Skeptic: Let me show you I'll pull up the same photo. *pulls up photo* it looks like you're looking through a cheap instagram filter at everything.

Consumer #1: Wow I've never noticed that before. But the S3 has more pixels.

Skeptic: No really. It has a higher resolution but it has fewer pixel sites. The screen on the iPhone 5 is made up of an even amount of red green and blue pixels. On the S3 there are half the red and blue pixels. Which means that overall there are about 30% fewer pixel sites on the S3, at a higher resolution and greater DPI. This results in a serious cross hatching pattern that makes the screen look noticeably grainy, which is the problem that more resolution is supposed to fix and is responsible for a very poor color gamut that makes everything look like it's through a filter. On top of that if you look at the screen itself next to mine you'll see that it's less than half the brightness.

Consumer #2: But the S3 is faster with a better processor.

Skeptic: No, not really. The international version of the S3 has the quad core Exynos 1.4 gig processor, the US version has a dual core 1.5 gig processor. The iPhone 5 processors is the A6 1.02 gig processor that can selectively ramp it's clock speed up to 1.3 gigs and possibly beyond.

Consumer #2: Right so 1.5 is more than 1.3.

Skeptic: No it actually ends up being slower. You can't really compare two different processors with two different architectures, it's a very bad comparison. In the end on benchmarks the iPhone 5 processor performs nearly identically to the Galaxy S3 international quad core version, and is about 15% faster than the US dual core LTE galaxy S3. With graphics processor you can compare them more directly and the iPhone 5 has about 28 gigaflops of processing power with it's PowerVR graphics chip while the Galaxy S3 only has 7 gigaflops of graphics processing power, which is 4 times less. So that's 15% more CPU and 4 times more GPU.

Consumer #1: Oh well I thought it was faster, I didn't know it has that much slower. I like the voice recognition on the S3 compared to my old iPhone 4 though. It's more accurate.

Skeptic: Voice recognition is all based on the Hidden Markov Model algorithm and is generally around 90% accurate with a large word bank and 99% accurate with a small word bank. So any difference you see doesn't have anything to do with the processing and is likely a coincidence but Apple also added a microphone on the back of the iPhone 5 which picks up surrounding audio and will cancel it out which means it sends a much cleaner signal for voice recognition and you can use it in loud places. The iPhone 5 is the only phone which has this features because Apple has the patent on it, which also means it has the best voice recognition accuracy. The iPhone 5 also improved it's response quality to be on par with Jelly Bean, which was the number one downside to the old 4S. So voice recognition should be better on the iPhone 5.


Consumer #1: That's pretty Interesting, I didn't know voice recognition worked on a common forumula, maybe it was a coincidence or I just started talking to my phone clearly. I like form of the S3 though.

Skeptic: The S3 is built like a children's toy. Apple is really the only company that makes high quality cell phones right now. Other manufacturers cut costs left and right making their devices out of the most inexpensive plastic and then advertising to no end when they put a 5 cent piece of kevlar fabric on the back like it's their greatest achievement. Cell phone manufactures besides Apple make cheap low quality devices. Apple's iPhone 5 is said to be the most difficult to manufacture consumer device ever made by Foxconn. They actually are the first manufacturer to use crystalline diamond milled aluminum on a consumer device which cuts and polishes the edge at the same time. They also use lasers to cut out all the ports so there are no finishing marks.

Consumer #1: Oh wow, I never though about the quality before. I just kind of looked at the color and that was it. What I meant though is I like that it has a bigger screen and that's what I really noticed about it. I ignored the rest. But I did like the neat features like locking the phone or silencing it when you lay it on the screen, and the weather widgets on the home screen.

Skeptic: My iPhone 5 does each of those things you describe. You can instal them through the Cyndia store along with over 90% of Android's unique features. It takes 5 minutes to set up. I can't really help you with the screen size though, so you would have said that the iPhone 5 is much better if it had a bigger screen though right?

Consumer #1: Yep

Consumer #2: Pretty much

In case you were wondering the only features that the S3 has over the iPhone 5 a are a few proprietary samsung software features, NFC, a removable battery and removable storage. The removable storage is over 15 times slower than internal storage and takes ages to load anything, and has a lower internal storage, and the removable battery can be added with a slim battery case for the iPhone 5, which takes up about the same amount of room in your pocket as an extra battery and is easier to use. NFC isn't that useful.

I love it when people post entertaining, thoughtful quotes.

I love my 4S; my wife loves her 5. BUT, I would say that my favorite iPhone thus far was the 3GS form factor and size - it was light and fit nicely in your hand. It's fairly old, but still works fine.

For what it's worth, I know several people at work, who have had an iphone, then a galaxy S3s, then switched back to the iphone. Most of them are getting the 4 or 4S, since they are cheaper.
 

alent1234

macrumors 603
Jun 19, 2009
5,689
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i got my father in law a S3 and the damned thing won't get a location inside the house. seriously, you have to be outside to use google maps or else i get an error about can't find GPS satellites or something
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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i got my father in law a S3 and the damned thing won't get a location inside the house. seriously, you have to be outside to use google maps or else i get an error about can't find GPS satellites or something

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irDigital0l

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Dec 7, 2010
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You dont think he will find much discussion about Android here? You mean in the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" forum. About all you see are people comparing their latest phone to the iPhone and of course the iPhone is seen to be sorely lacking.

But all in all, most threads end up in the same Android rocks/iOS sucks vs iOS rules/Android sucks debate and usually by post 5 of a thread you've seen the last of any useful information.

I honestly think the OP is just looking for some instant "street cred" here is the forum by bashing the iPhone. Who knows for sure though.

Not that much compared to a dedicated Android community like androidcentral.
 

kjs862

macrumors 65816
Jan 21, 2004
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I also prefer the weight of the 4s compared to the 5. I upgraded to the 5 though because of the better internals. I do think that when apple made the screen larger they should hand increased the width as well. This form factor does feel a bit awkward in my hands
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
Your absolutely right. But it would be foolish to even pick up a Note 2 when the S4 is due out in 2 months.

It wont be in the USA in two months. It always comes out in the UK first and makes its way here later. My guess is it will be here by May- June. April at the earliest IF it really does come out in March.

The new Galaxy's come out yearly though the GS2 was a bit earlier. Got my GS1 in July, bypassed the GS2 and got my GS3 on July 1st
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
You: I hate my iPhone 5 because I received one with a defective sleep/wake button and refuse to have it replaced under warranty because I'm crazy. I will also confuse build quality and quality control and claim that the product with the best build quality in the industry has the worst. I also think that an inferior phone is somehow better because people own it...

Me: Right.

Here's another convo you might be interested in, this one based on a real conversation:


Consumer #1: Yeah as a long time iPhone owner I ditched it for the Galaxy S3 this time around, they say it's much better.

Consumer #2: I've heard the same thing.

Consumer #1: Yeah it's great!

Skeptic: How is it much better?

Consumer #1: Because the screen is better.

Skeptic: No it's not. The S3 screen is a very cheap unit. If you rock the display left to right for example on the S3 you'll see that the color violently changes to weird tones from just a few degrees away from the viewing angle. On top of that if you look at the colors they're completely off and messed up on the S3.

Consumer #1: What do you mean the colors are messed up?

Skeptic: Let me show you I'll pull up the same photo. *pulls up photo* it looks like you're looking through a cheap instagram filter at everything.

Consumer #1: Wow I've never noticed that before. But the S3 has more pixels.

Skeptic: No really. It has a higher resolution but it has fewer pixel sites. The screen on the iPhone 5 is made up of an even amount of red green and blue pixels. On the S3 there are half the red and blue pixels. Which means that overall there are about 30% fewer pixel sites on the S3, at a higher resolution and greater DPI. This results in a serious cross hatching pattern that makes the screen look noticeably grainy, which is the problem that more resolution is supposed to fix and is responsible for a very poor color gamut that makes everything look like it's through a filter. On top of that if you look at the screen itself next to mine you'll see that it's less than half the brightness.

Consumer #2: But the S3 is faster with a better processor.

Skeptic: No, not really. The international version of the S3 has the quad core Exynos 1.4 gig processor, the US version has a dual core 1.5 gig processor. The iPhone 5 processors is the A6 1.02 gig processor that can selectively ramp it's clock speed up to 1.3 gigs and possibly beyond.

Consumer #2: Right so 1.5 is more than 1.3.

Skeptic: No it actually ends up being slower. You can't really compare two different processors with two different architectures, it's a very bad comparison. In the end on benchmarks the iPhone 5 processor performs nearly identically to the Galaxy S3 international quad core version, and is about 15% faster than the US dual core LTE galaxy S3. With graphics processor you can compare them more directly and the iPhone 5 has about 28 gigaflops of processing power with it's PowerVR graphics chip while the Galaxy S3 only has 7 gigaflops of graphics processing power, which is 4 times less. So that's 15% more CPU and 4 times more GPU.

Consumer #1: Oh well I thought it was faster, I didn't know it has that much slower. I like the voice recognition on the S3 compared to my old iPhone 4 though. It's more accurate.

Skeptic: Voice recognition is all based on the Hidden Markov Model algorithm and is generally around 90% accurate with a large word bank and 99% accurate with a small word bank. So any difference you see doesn't have anything to do with the processing and is likely a coincidence but Apple also added a microphone on the back of the iPhone 5 which picks up surrounding audio and will cancel it out which means it sends a much cleaner signal for voice recognition and you can use it in loud places. The iPhone 5 is the only phone which has this features because Apple has the patent on it, which also means it has the best voice recognition accuracy. The iPhone 5 also improved it's response quality to be on par with Jelly Bean, which was the number one downside to the old 4S. So voice recognition should be better on the iPhone 5.


Consumer #1: That's pretty Interesting, I didn't know voice recognition worked on a common forumula, maybe it was a coincidence or I just started talking to my phone clearly. I like form of the S3 though.

Skeptic: The S3 is built like a children's toy. Apple is really the only company that makes high quality cell phones right now. Other manufacturers cut costs left and right making their devices out of the most inexpensive plastic and then advertising to no end when they put a 5 cent piece of kevlar fabric on the back like it's their greatest achievement. Cell phone manufactures besides Apple make cheap low quality devices. Apple's iPhone 5 is said to be the most difficult to manufacture consumer device ever made by Foxconn. They actually are the first manufacturer to use crystalline diamond milled aluminum on a consumer device which cuts and polishes the edge at the same time. They also use lasers to cut out all the ports so there are no finishing marks.

Consumer #1: Oh wow, I never though about the quality before. I just kind of looked at the color and that was it. What I meant though is I like that it has a bigger screen and that's what I really noticed about it. I ignored the rest. But I did like the neat features like locking the phone or silencing it when you lay it on the screen, and the weather widgets on the home screen.

Skeptic: My iPhone 5 does each of those things you describe. You can instal them through the Cyndia store along with over 90% of Android's unique features. It takes 5 minutes to set up. I can't really help you with the screen size though, so you would have said that the iPhone 5 is much better if it had a bigger screen though right?

Consumer #1: Yep

Consumer #2: Pretty much

In case you were wondering the only features that the S3 has over the iPhone 5 a are a few proprietary samsung software features, NFC, a removable battery and removable storage. The removable storage is over 15 times slower than internal storage and takes ages to load anything, and has a lower internal storage, and the removable battery can be added with a slim battery case for the iPhone 5, which takes up about the same amount of room in your pocket as an extra battery and is easier to use. NFC isn't that useful.

Obviously a convo you had and you are the skeptic. I cant agree with a lot of what was said there but it doesnt matter. Use what you like but the exagerations of "the colors violently change when moved just a few degrees" and the "phone is built like a childs toy" are just complately ridiculous. I mean really...they violently change? ...LOL, i m obviously missing that the past 7 months with mine. Maybe im just blind and you have some super bionic eyes :rolleyes:
 
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hovscorpion12

macrumors 68040
Sep 12, 2011
3,044
3,125
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I bought my iPhone 5 in October last year. had it for about 2.5 months. Loved it. 4" screen, Dual-Core 1.3 Ghz processor..etc. It was not until a couple of weeks ago that I began to find IOS and iPhone 5 boring me. I fully regret purchasing this iPhone 5 wishing to have purchased the Galaxy S3 or the Note II. I have been an avid Apple fan since the iPhone 3G and claimed Apple is king. The Samsung Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note II, Galaxy S4, Nokia 920..etc are all better designed, better OS then that of Apple. Once my contract ends in 2014, Samsung Galaxy S5, or the Note 4 will be my next phone choice.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
It took me like 90 seconds to read that. So you can't spare 90 seconds to learn new information?

This is new information?
Skeptic: The S3 is built like a children's toy. Apple is really the only company that makes high quality cell phones right now. Other manufacturers cut costs left and right making their devices out of the most inexpensive plastic and then advertising to no end when they put a 5 cent piece of kevlar fabric on the back like it's their greatest achievement. Cell phone manufactures besides Apple make cheap low quality devices. Apple's iPhone 5 is said to be the most difficult to manufacture consumer device ever made by Foxconn. They actually are the first manufacturer to use crystalline diamond milled aluminum on a consumer device which cuts and polishes the edge at the same time. They also use lasers to cut out all the ports so there are no finishing marks.


yeah thats great info. You know how cheap aluminum is? That is the posters opinion and it isnt even a correct statement. Just jibberish nonsence with no info at all.

You think Samsung isnt using a machine to cut its polycarbonate plastic? lol, yeah all those people are doing it by hand....and hey, hand made is suppose to be a great thing anymore ;)

Yep, this crystaline diamond milled aluminum is quality alright....complete with a article(there are several actually) on them bending



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iPhone5-bend-cover.jpg


iphone5_can_bend_06.jpg
 
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Beeplance

macrumors 68000
Jul 29, 2012
1,564
500
You: I hate my iPhone 5 because I received one with a defective sleep/wake button and refuse to have it replaced under warranty because I'm crazy. I will also confuse build quality and quality control and claim that the product with the best build quality in the industry has the worst. I also think that an inferior phone is somehow better because people own it...

Me: Right.

Here's another convo you might be interested in, this one based on a real conversation:


Consumer #1: Yeah as a long time iPhone owner I ditched it for the Galaxy S3 this time around, they say it's much better.

Consumer #2: I've heard the same thing.

Consumer #1: Yeah it's great!

Skeptic: How is it much better?

Consumer #1: Because the screen is better.

Skeptic: No it's not. The S3 screen is a very cheap unit. If you rock the display left to right for example on the S3 you'll see that the color violently changes to weird tones from just a few degrees away from the viewing angle. On top of that if you look at the colors they're completely off and messed up on the S3.

Consumer #1: What do you mean the colors are messed up?

Skeptic: Let me show you I'll pull up the same photo. *pulls up photo* it looks like you're looking through a cheap instagram filter at everything.

Consumer #1: Wow I've never noticed that before. But the S3 has more pixels.

Skeptic: No really. It has a higher resolution but it has fewer pixel sites. The screen on the iPhone 5 is made up of an even amount of red green and blue pixels. On the S3 there are half the red and blue pixels. Which means that overall there are about 30% fewer pixel sites on the S3, at a higher resolution and greater DPI. This results in a serious cross hatching pattern that makes the screen look noticeably grainy, which is the problem that more resolution is supposed to fix and is responsible for a very poor color gamut that makes everything look like it's through a filter. On top of that if you look at the screen itself next to mine you'll see that it's less than half the brightness.

Consumer #2: But the S3 is faster with a better processor.

Skeptic: No, not really. The international version of the S3 has the quad core Exynos 1.4 gig processor, the US version has a dual core 1.5 gig processor. The iPhone 5 processors is the A6 1.02 gig processor that can selectively ramp it's clock speed up to 1.3 gigs and possibly beyond.

Consumer #2: Right so 1.5 is more than 1.3.

Skeptic: No it actually ends up being slower. You can't really compare two different processors with two different architectures, it's a very bad comparison. In the end on benchmarks the iPhone 5 processor performs nearly identically to the Galaxy S3 international quad core version, and is about 15% faster than the US dual core LTE galaxy S3. With graphics processor you can compare them more directly and the iPhone 5 has about 28 gigaflops of processing power with it's PowerVR graphics chip while the Galaxy S3 only has 7 gigaflops of graphics processing power, which is 4 times less. So that's 15% more CPU and 4 times more GPU.

Consumer #1: Oh well I thought it was faster, I didn't know it has that much slower. I like the voice recognition on the S3 compared to my old iPhone 4 though. It's more accurate.

Skeptic: Voice recognition is all based on the Hidden Markov Model algorithm and is generally around 90% accurate with a large word bank and 99% accurate with a small word bank. So any difference you see doesn't have anything to do with the processing and is likely a coincidence but Apple also added a microphone on the back of the iPhone 5 which picks up surrounding audio and will cancel it out which means it sends a much cleaner signal for voice recognition and you can use it in loud places. The iPhone 5 is the only phone which has this features because Apple has the patent on it, which also means it has the best voice recognition accuracy. The iPhone 5 also improved it's response quality to be on par with Jelly Bean, which was the number one downside to the old 4S. So voice recognition should be better on the iPhone 5.


Consumer #1: That's pretty Interesting, I didn't know voice recognition worked on a common forumula, maybe it was a coincidence or I just started talking to my phone clearly. I like form of the S3 though.

Skeptic: The S3 is built like a children's toy. Apple is really the only company that makes high quality cell phones right now. Other manufacturers cut costs left and right making their devices out of the most inexpensive plastic and then advertising to no end when they put a 5 cent piece of kevlar fabric on the back like it's their greatest achievement. Cell phone manufactures besides Apple make cheap low quality devices. Apple's iPhone 5 is said to be the most difficult to manufacture consumer device ever made by Foxconn. They actually are the first manufacturer to use crystalline diamond milled aluminum on a consumer device which cuts and polishes the edge at the same time. They also use lasers to cut out all the ports so there are no finishing marks.

Consumer #1: Oh wow, I never though about the quality before. I just kind of looked at the color and that was it. What I meant though is I like that it has a bigger screen and that's what I really noticed about it. I ignored the rest. But I did like the neat features like locking the phone or silencing it when you lay it on the screen, and the weather widgets on the home screen.

Skeptic: My iPhone 5 does each of those things you describe. You can instal them through the Cyndia store along with over 90% of Android's unique features. It takes 5 minutes to set up. I can't really help you with the screen size though, so you would have said that the iPhone 5 is much better if it had a bigger screen though right?

Consumer #1: Yep

Consumer #2: Pretty much

In case you were wondering the only features that the S3 has over the iPhone 5 a are a few proprietary samsung software features, NFC, a removable battery and removable storage. The removable storage is over 15 times slower than internal storage and takes ages to load anything, and has a lower internal storage, and the removable battery can be added with a slim battery case for the iPhone 5, which takes up about the same amount of room in your pocket as an extra battery and is easier to use. NFC isn't that useful.

Obviously you're the skeptic. Typical detractor of Android that is trying to convince people that the iPhone is the best phone in the market, that nothing that beat it.

The Galaxy S3 isn't as low quality as you described it to be, that's for sure.
 

tech4all

macrumors 68040
Jun 13, 2004
3,399
489
NorCal
That's funny, because the Android people at work are always jealous of what my iPhone 5 can do :p

Such as?

Im the complete opposite, i love my iphone 5 its the best phone i ever got lmao

OH goody! :D


Nobody cares. And if they do, they need a life.

HATE HATE HATE... Who died and forced u to buy the iphone anyways?

Hate? Yup mention Android on here and that's what you'll get.

buy android... android is amazing.. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

It is amazing. What Android phone do you have? :)

:rolleyes:

Here's a quick S4 recap stat-run down:
21.7" screen
24-core processor
SUPERINCREDIBLEAMAZINGAMOLED screen
A bunch of random useless features that have no actual application for every day use that Samsung will use to say that "Apple doesn't have these things"
Cheap plastic body
Terrible battery life
Glitchy, laggy TouchWiz
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean

The Fandroids will buy it, say that it makes them "smarter than iOS fans", they're "power users", Samsung will make some more commercials about how it is better than the iPhone, and they will continue to bring up the misnomer that Apple is losing it and Samsung, with all its innovation, is the wave of the future. Meanwhile Samsung continues to blatantly copy and rip the iPhone while they try to get a peek at iOS source code in an attempt to rip off Apple.
The 5 is great.

That and it'll have a Map system that actually works. You won't get "Apple detours" with Android. Oh and Siri, yea by the time Siri answers it, I'm already on the next question...

I read the first sentence and stopped. :rolleyes: Bye bye.

Too much strain huh? Or maybe you were upset that someone has a different opinion and talked bad about the lil iPhone?

It's always amusing when somebody starts a thread about how rubbish a phone is and asks the owners of the particular phone for their opinions lol!

I respect people's opinions, but you can't expect to get much agreement towards hating an iPhone on a Mac forum :D

Yea some here aren't willing to look into other options besides iOS...More like a cult for some if you think about it.

Just wait it out. The 5S will be even better. It will look the same and and have 98% of the same functions. :p

And it'll be 1mm thinner! I could see the headline now:

iPhone 5S. Innovating with 1mm less.

Judging by your name, you have no taste anyway.

And what's so special about "Jimmymck" ? :rolleyes:

Seriously though is that the best comment you could muster? :confused:

I tried the S3 as a work phone, after 2 months I through it back as it was utter rubbish.

What didn't you like about it that was, as you put it, "utter rubbish?"

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i got my father in law a S3 and the damned thing won't get a location inside the house. seriously, you have to be outside to use google maps or else i get an error about can't find GPS satellites or something

GPS works great inside my house. Maybe he has a lead roof?
 

kadillac

macrumors member
Dec 7, 2012
46
0
The GS3 is just a terrible phone. Overall. It's clearly the worst of the Android flagships. The Nexus 4 is the best but no LTE. And are you saying S-Voice is better than Siri? Or that the S3 doesn't have awful GPS? LOL.
 

dkersten

macrumors 6502a
Nov 5, 2010
589
2
I think its for you to move to the dark side now.

aka leave this forum cause...

I dont think you'll find much discussion here about Android.

androidcentral here u gooo

Bro we're in the Android section of these forums.

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...aka leave this forum
 

strausd

macrumors 68030
Jul 11, 2008
2,998
1
Texas
This is new information?



yeah thats great info. You know how cheap aluminum is? That is the posters opinion and it isnt even a correct statement. Just jibberish nonsence with no info at all.

You think Samsung isnt using a machine to cut its polycarbonate plastic? lol, yeah all those people are doing it by hand....and hey, hand made is suppose to be a great thing anymore ;)

Yep, this crystaline diamond milled aluminum is quality alright....complete with a article(there are several actually) on them bending



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Have you ever seen plastic bend? It's quite flexible ;)
 

siiip5

macrumors 6502
Nov 13, 2012
395
0
Love when the Samsung haters call the S3 cheap, because of its polycarbonate shell, yet who has to wrap their phones in cheap, crappy plastic cases or risk getting a scratch on the shodd aluminum of the iPhone 5? It is comical to see. Every S3 owner I have seen, hasn't bothered with a case cover or screen protector. You see, polycarbonate is flexible and scratch resistant. And there is no flex in the unibody frame causing screens to pop out and crack, on the iPhone 5.
Better build quality goes to Samsung. And we S3 owners don't have to handle our phones like fabergé eggs. Samsung phones just work.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
The GS3 is just a terrible phone. Overall. It's clearly the worst of the Android flagships. The Nexus 4 is the best but no LTE. And are you saying S-Voice is better than Siri? Or that the S3 doesn't have awful GPS? LOL.

Yeah, it clearly is :rolleyes:

S Voice sucks to be honest and i have it disabled but Google Now works great and is very fast. Alot faster than Siri and i have no problems with my GPS and dont where you get that impression that others do.
 

Radiating

macrumors 65816
Dec 29, 2011
1,018
7
This is new information?



yeah thats great info. You know how cheap aluminum is? That is the posters opinion and it isnt even a correct statement. Just jibberish nonsence with no info at all.

You think Samsung isnt using a machine to cut its polycarbonate plastic? lol, yeah all those people are doing it by hand....and hey, hand made is suppose to be a great thing anymore ;)

Yep, this crystaline diamond milled aluminum is quality alright....complete with a article(there are several actually) on them bending



Image

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The iphone 5 body even with millions in mass production costs over 3400% more than the s3 body to manufacture and that's without development costs. The number is closer to 10,000% when you consider design and testing between both bodies. The iPhone's bending is not a sign of low quality it's a sign of its thinness. The body is a performance machine designed to be as thin and light as possible and took more money to cut weight and bulk from it than goes into cutting weight and bulk from an F1 car, which is one of the most insanely over engineered things on the planet. You're confusing reliability with quality. The build quality of the iphone 5 based on cost is at least 20 times greater than the nearest competitor.
 

mobilebuddha

macrumors regular
Jan 31, 2008
222
25
so in your definition.. a "bending iPhone 5" is a testament to Apple's engineering prowess and a demonstration to the extremely high build quality of Apple's products. Right?

:)

The iphone 5 body even with millions in mass production costs over 3400% more than the s3 body to manufacture and that's without development costs. The number is closer to 10,000% when you consider design and testing between both bodies. The iPhone's bending is not a sign of low quality it's a sign of its thinness. The body is a performance machine designed to be as thin and light as possible and took more money to cut weight and bulk from it than goes into cutting weight and bulk from an F1 car, which is one of the most insanely over engineered things on the planet. You're confusing reliability with quality. The build quality of the iphone 5 based on cost is at least 20 times greater than the nearest competitor.
 

Vegastouch

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The iphone 5 body even with millions in mass production costs over 3400% more than the s3 body to manufacture and that's without development costs. The number is closer to 10,000% when you consider design and testing between both bodies. The iPhone's bending is not a sign of low quality it's a sign of its thinness. The body is a performance machine designed to be as thin and light as possible and took more money to cut weight and bulk from it than goes into cutting weight and bulk from an F1 car, which is one of the most insanely over engineered things on the planet. You're confusing reliability with quality. The build quality of the iphone 5 based on cost is at least 20 times greater than the nearest competitor.

Lets see those figures.

As for it bending, ...its because it is made crappy. Show me a HTC with an aluminum body that has done that. The first gen iPhones didnt do that. Maybe they made it too thin and that would be a bad design now wouldnt you say?
I dont care how much money it took to make it thinner and lighter. Clearly it is a mistake but what your trying to tell me is because they spent more money to come up with a design that clearly isnt very good, and that is better?
Apple spending, in your opinion ,...20 times of the next compititor(still want to see those numbers)means it is better quality?

Im not sure what your saying by telling me they spent all this money that other companies didnt yet those other companies dont have a bending phone issue. Sounds to me like the iPhone 5 is insanely over engineered. They could of made the body out of cardboard and the faithful would still buy it.

I think your explanation is weak. It is lighter because for one it has a bit smaller battery and two, it doesnt have glass on the back anymore.

They only made it lighter by 26 grams(something like that, 112 down from i think 138 grams) which yes you can feel that but 26 grams isnt much to lose and imo those two things i listed could have done it alone.
 

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Lets see those figures.

As for it bending, ...its because it is made crappy. Show me a HTC with an aluminum body that has done that. The first gen iPhones didnt do that. Maybe they made it too thin and that would be a bad design now wouldnt you say?
I dont care how much money it took to make it thinner and lighter. Clearly it is a mistake but what your trying to tell me is because they spent more money to come up with a design that clearly isnt very good, and that is better?
Apple spending, in your opinion ,...20 times of the next compititor(still want to see those numbers)means it is better quality?

Im not sure what your saying by telling me they spent all this money that other companies didnt yet those other companies dont have a bending phone issue. Sounds to me like the iPhone 5 is insanely over engineered. They could of made the body out of cardboard and the faithful would still buy it.

I think your explanation is weak. It is lighter because for one it has a bit smaller battery and two, it doesnt have glass on the back anymore.

They only made it lighter by 26 grams(something like that, 112 down from i think 138 grams) which yes you can feel that but 26 grams isnt much to lose and imo those two things i listed could have done it alone.

Not sure why you keep bringing up the bending non-issue. The vast majority of iPhone 5s have clearly not bent otherwise these forums would be erupting with complaints. That would suggest that those it happens to are doing something wrong or they simply have a defective phone.
 

Vegastouch

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Not sure why you keep bringing up the bending non-issue. The vast majority of iPhone 5s have clearly not bent otherwise these forums would be erupting with complaints. That would suggest that those it happens to are doing something wrong or they simply have a defective phone.

Not TRYING to harp on it, ive just never seen any other phone do that , that has an aluminum back on it while people here are saying it is built well while they say the GS3 build is crap. I see nothing wrong with a plastic body and it feels fine to me. In fact the glass back is one of the big reasons why i decided not to get a Nexus 4 and most say it is built well. But it will shatter easy.
 
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