I don't know about the newer phones, but my 11 starts Siri if I long-press the power button. As far as I'm aware, that's never happened by putting the phone in my pocket.
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iPhone 15 Pro Action Button is a Horrible Idea
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I can’t remember the last time I used the mute switch. My phone is always on mute, I am notified via the watch. In my opinion, the action button is much more useful than a mute switch.
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How do you get the phone in and out of mute quickly if you assign the action button to something else?
How do you get the phone in and out of mute quickly if you assign the action button to something else?
According to the MKBHD podcast, if you just shortly press the button, you get different haptics for when mute is enabled or not.
That way you can still feel if it is on or off, without turning it on/off.
If true, problem solved.
That way you can still feel if it is on or off, without turning it on/off.
If true, problem solved.
I think you guys are making a mountain out of a mole hill here… this is such a non-issue and you people are making it seem like it’s the end of the world and makes the phone unusable. First of all there will be a specific haptic feedback for silencing the phone, just practice getting used to the haptic feedback in your pocket for 5 minutes and I’m sure you’ll be good to go for your meetings….. secondly taking 1 second to look at your phone and make sure you’re putting it on silent is not a huge deal. you are not in a meeting with the US president deciding the fate of the world FFS…. people whip out their phones to look at silly memes and to get notifications hundreds of times a day, but all of a sudden they can't pull it out to see if they put it on silent, come on!……. people just need to find at least one thing to be disgruntled and complain about jeez.
Ironically, half the people who claim the need to check if their phone is muted by feel alone only need to do so because a physical mute switch can be accidentally flipped (e.g. putting on a case), a problem that immediately disappears when you stop using it as a mute switch and move it to control center. Most people I know keep their phone permanently on silent, and some of them still think this is an issue because they need to be able to confirm it's on silent.
I'll be setting my phone to silent in Control Center and then removing that control, never to be seen again
I'll be setting my phone to silent in Control Center and then removing that control, never to be seen again
Misguided fear. The action button not only will allow you to put on mute from your pocket just by feel of the haptic feedback… but can also serve multiple functions. Like the dynamic island turned an ugly pill into a functional feature so to will the action button transform the old mute button into a much more useful feature.
It reminds me of the Touch Bar. Many of us with Touch Bar Macs have used the Touch Bar mostly for exactly the same functionality as the analog function keys it replaced, something which Apple realized and decided that including the Touch Bar was no longer necessary.
Way too early to tell if the Action Button will have the same fate as the Touch Bar. I don’t think it’s as different from an analog mute switch as the Touch Bar was from analog function keys, but it’s a familiar sounding story of a new feature that’s supposed to be better but will mostly be used the same as the feature it replaces.
Context is everything. In the other thread you mention the topic is voice control, specifically using Siri or Alexa to control lights. I'm not a fan of using voice control because it feels strange to me. And part of that is privacy in recording peoples voices - even when voice control is not being used.
Which is why I said I prefer analog switches. Ie., the light switch on the wall.
Not being able to feel an analog mute switch might feel strange to some people as well. And that’s okay.
(I’m not one of them since my phone case makes it hard to feel the switch’s position anyway)
I have and? ...
This only expands functionality. Don't want it beyond a silence toggle? then don't change it
Well…in the other thread from which you quoted me it concerned home automation devices, not the iPhone. Two different things, two different contexts. But okay.
Yeah but in both contexts a valid case can be made for simpler = better and preferring the former. I tend to agree with simpler = better and doing one thing really well (like turning on a light or muting the phone) over a bunch of things but not as well for any individual thing. Same goes for the analog function keys vs. Touch Bar discussion…IMO the function keys are more convenient than the Touch Bar at doing the single thing the key is meant to do and I understand and agree with its omission on newer MacBooks.
Three different contexts but the same principle guides my opinion for all three. It seemed like you were saying simpler = better in the other thread and not here which to me was an inconsistent application of that principle, while also comparing muting a phone to sophisticated high-level functionality like controlling an airplane's engines to specific safety and regulatory standards as if those exist in the same context. At least try and be consistent on something!!!
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Love the idea, already created a Choose From Menu shortcut that will give me all sorts of options when pressing the Action Button (like Open Halide, Create Note, Add Reminder etc). Much more functional than just a mute switch.
Without an action button (i.e. those not buying a 15 Pro), this can be replicated by placing a shortcut icon on your home-screen that does the same thing.
It remains to be seen how well the button works in real world usage but it’s position makes some sense.
Put it near the power button and people would end up turning the screen off my mistake.
Make it the same size as the volume buttons and you’d end up turning volume up or down by mistake.
I tend to keep my phone silenced all the time anyway but in my mind, for now, I’ll miss the switch. But we’ll see once the phone arrives.
100% agree about what someone said about the Dynamic Island though, coming from a 12 Pro the island looks more intrusive because it sits lower down the screen. So that’s going to be a potential bugbear initially too.
Put it near the power button and people would end up turning the screen off my mistake.
Make it the same size as the volume buttons and you’d end up turning volume up or down by mistake.
I tend to keep my phone silenced all the time anyway but in my mind, for now, I’ll miss the switch. But we’ll see once the phone arrives.
100% agree about what someone said about the Dynamic Island though, coming from a 12 Pro the island looks more intrusive because it sits lower down the screen. So that’s going to be a potential bugbear initially too.
In regards to the airplane engines, etc, as I said twice later on in this thread, I was being over hyperbolic to try and make a point.
If there is some other option regarding voice home automation devices that does not require voice or analog switches I'm all for it. I suggested one in that thread, an app. I'd been using an app for home automation for five years. But OP in that thread preferred voice, so if an app was ruled out and there is no other tech - I prefer the analog. The latter poster who suggested The Clapper, I took as a joke.
It's not though. I'm running the released candidate and there is no option to change the sound profile for the phone anywhere in control center and it's not something you can add.
Same, but I took it a half step further and added some immediate actions and context-based menus, like:
- if I‘m at home and around 7:45am on a weekday, start navigation to drop kids off at school.
- if around pickup time and near kids school on a weekday, start navigate home.
- if focus mode is driving, menu is a list of common destinations
- if focus mode is personal and I’m at home, show specific menu items.
- if focus mode is work, again a different list
- else default list of options TBD
Doesnt sound promising, but perhaps it’ll only be available for the new phones.
If Apple were to implement this anywhere (cc, shortcuts, etc), I’d expect it to not be available unless you have a phone that supports it.
We may have to wait until phones are out to properly answer this.
edit: aside, but shortcuts I would expect to be there always because you can already write shortcuts that work on other devices than the one you‘re using to create the shortcut.