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eyeseeyou

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Quick question: Is it possible to replace both Adobe Lightroom and Adobe Photoshop with just this, especially on my desktops too?

Depends on how you use those apps although affinity phot can import and export to photoshop file formats.
 

darkarn

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Depends on how you use those apps although affinity phot can import and export to photoshop file formats.

I am using Lightroom for photo storage management (e.g. metadata input) and basic editing (e.g. changing contrast or hue) while Photoshop is more for merging many elements of different photos into a new image
 

eyeseeyou

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I am using Lightroom for photo storage management (e.g. metadata input) and basic editing (e.g. changing contrast or hue) while Photoshop is more for merging many elements of different photos into a new image

If that is your situation then the answer is yes although you’ll have to make a change to your photo storage process. iCloud?
 

darkarn

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If that is your situation then the answer is yes although you’ll have to make a change to your photo storage process. iCloud?

Thanks! But darn, I just realised that I need cataloging and batch processing features too, which Affinity does not seem to be able to do at the moment (see: https://www.reddit.com/r/photography/comments/5se913/people_who_use_affinity_how_do_you_catalogue/ ). Affinity will also need to be able to read XMP sidecar files for my past photos, which I cannot confirm at this time.

As for iCloud, I don't think so seeing that I am already using Lightroom on my Windows desktop
 

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This review caught my attention. LOL.

Why blur out the name? This sort of idiot needs to be identified and shamed.
 

8692574

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I cannot speak for the iOS version, but for the Mac version...yes yes and yes, totally worhted!
 

nollic

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Looks ridiculous good.
For work using the full CC suite on a day to day basis and this looks like the perfect iPad companion.
Adobe is nowhere close to this with Mix, am I right? Waiting on my first iPad Pro and can't wait to unload some desktop workflow to tablet and sofa.
 

ManyThreads

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I'm wondering how this would handle the 42mp raw files from the A7Rii. I don't have much use for the photo retouching features but the actual RAW editing capabilities would extremely useful if it could handle the large raw files.

I've been asking everywhere and so far not a single person can confirm for me how Affinity handles large RAW files like from your A7RII. I'm thinking maybe it isn't very good since nobody seems to use it for anything professional, but who knows.
 

msavic

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I've been asking everywhere and so far not a single person can confirm for me how Affinity handles large RAW files like from your A7RII. I'm thinking maybe it isn't very good since nobody seems to use it for anything professional, but who knows.

Yeah frankly I would be surprised if it can handle them and offer a fairly smooth experience. I'm currently looking at upgrading my laptop as it can't handle the files, it looks like I will ultimately need to get a quad core laptop in order to be able to do some mobile editing.

Also, has anyone done a comparison between Pixelmator and Affinity? I think Affinity would offer a greater feature set but Pixemator appears easier to use but that's just a guess from me at this point.
 

killaz05

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Yeah frankly I would be surprised if it can handle them and offer a fairly smooth experience. I'm currently looking at upgrading my laptop as it can't handle the files, it looks like I will ultimately need to get a quad core laptop in order to be able to do some mobile editing.

Also, has anyone done a comparison between Pixelmator and Affinity? I think Affinity would offer a greater feature set but Pixemator appears easier to use but that's just a guess from me at this point.

So I thought I mentioned it before in this thread how I access my RAW files but maybe I didn't. I don't see why a RAW file from an A7Rii would be different than a RAW file from any other device. Yes the file is larger in size but the file is still the same type. I open RAW files from my 24.2MP Nikon D3200 without an issue.

I haven't used Pixemator but I have been using lightroom and photoshop for a little bit and I find Affinity to have all the features I could possibly need and more. My suggestion is that if you are looking at a new iPad, get one and try it out. You have a window of time to bring it back for a refund if it doesn't meet your needs. For me, my iPad Pro 9.7 and Affinity photo have taken over photo editing duties as I use to use lightroom and photoshop on my MBP. I find the iPad to render a lot faster and apply adjustments and filters quicker.
 

ManyThreads

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Yeah frankly I would be surprised if it can handle them and offer a fairly smooth experience. I'm currently looking at upgrading my laptop as it can't handle the files, it looks like I will ultimately need to get a quad core laptop in order to be able to do some mobile editing.

Also, has anyone done a comparison between Pixelmator and Affinity? I think Affinity would offer a greater feature set but Pixemator appears easier to use but that's just a guess from me at this point.

All I want is to use Affinity to cull my RAW photos. It doesn't hold a candle to full blown Photoshop on a work station, but if it's fast & smooth, it would be useful for checking focus and culling photos on flights. This is also assuming there is a fairly painless way to get RAWs onto the iPad from CF and SD cards - SD doesn't seem to be an issue but I have never seen a CF adapter or all in one solution.
 

killaz05

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Can someone please tell me if Affinity for the iPad can handle large RAW files from a DSLR (30+ megapixel Nikon NEF files) without lag? I have been trying to find out what the source file was in all their demo's but there is no information on that. I'm looking at the iPad Pro 10.5" and I was hoping to use Affinity to at least cull my photos - don't need it for crazy editing work, but I want it to be snappy when zooming to check focus, etc.

It will be as snappy as your internet connection to get the files from icloud or wherever they are stored. It takes me about 5 sec to open a 24.2MP RAW image. Again, it depends on your internet connection because it has to download the file which for me when using mobile hotspot while on the go takes a bit because connection isn't great.
 

ManyThreads

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It will be as snappy as your internet connection to get the files from icloud or wherever they are stored. It takes me about 5 sec to open a 24.2MP RAW image. Again, it depends on your internet connection because it has to download the file which for me when using mobile hotspot while on the go takes a bit because connection isn't great.

I was hoping to load them on the device, both for speed and a second backup fail-safe (also no WiFi on most planes). 5 seconds to open a single file is too slow, that would not work for me - hopefully that is just downloading time though and could be mitigated by having the files on the device itself. I want to quickly rip though large numbers of photos, check focus, and delete anything that isn't a keeper. Speed and smoothness would be my priority, rather than the editing features. I would also be using 36MP D810 files which are considerably larger than a D3200 file (about 45MB). The new iPad pro's are pretty powerful though so I am optimistic. I guess nobody can really try it out yet on the new hardware.
 

killaz05

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I was hoping to load them on the device, both for speed and a second backup fail-safe (also no WiFi on most planes). 5 seconds to open a single file is too slow, that would not work for me - hopefully that is just downloading time though and could be mitigated by having the files on the device itself. I want to quickly rip though large numbers of photos, check focus, and delete anything that isn't a keeper. Speed and smoothness would be my priority, rather than the editing features. I would also be using 36MP D810 files which are considerably larger than a D3200 file (about 45MB). The new iPad pro's are pretty powerful though so I am optimistic. I guess nobody can really try it out yet on the new hardware.

Well I don't have a USB or SD card reader to test how it works on importing those from affinity but hopefully if Affinity doesn't import off the camera/SD card, you can unload them onto the iPad itself when the Files app is available. I understand your files will be larger than my D3200 but I don't know of anything off the top of my head that can load a large RAW file in under 5 sec. Maybe I'm wrong but hopefully it works for you!
 
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vbctv

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I bought it when they showed it off at the WWDC and said available that day. I use it on my Mac and the iOS version is just as good, better than the so called PS Express...
 

Smeaton1724

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Excellent app, it simply is a 'Pro' app, benefits from the pencil and the power the Pro has. Interface is excellent as well. Looking forward to Affinity Designer at some point. Apple should invest in developers and encourage them to bring feature rich apps such as this to market.
 

jenss

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I've been asking everywhere and so far not a single person can confirm for me how Affinity handles large RAW files like from your A7RII. I'm thinking maybe it isn't very good since nobody seems to use it for anything professional, but who knows.

A couple of days ago, my dad demonstrated Affinity for me on his 12.9 (1st gen).
One of the more impressive things he showed me was handling of the largest RAW file he could find.
50 MP from a Hasselblad X1D.

As I recall it, it took only a few seconds (maybe 3-5 secs, not sure) to do the actual conversion. Everything else was snappy as f***.
He said it felt faster than Affinity on his i5 iMac 2009.

Overall he was extremely impressed with Affinity for iPad, apart from initial bugginess.

(edit: found the actual resolution and camera model of the raw file)
 
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msavic

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A couple of days ago, my dad demonstrated Affinity for me on his 12.9 (1st gen).
One of the more impressive things he showed me was handling of the largest RAW file he could find.
50 MP from a Hasselblad X1D.

As I recall it, it took only a few seconds (maybe 3-5 secs, not sure) to do the actual conversion. Everything else was snappy as f***.
He said it felt faster than Affinity on his i5 iMac 2009.

Overall he was extremely impressed with Affinity for iPad, apart from initial bugginess.

(edit: found the actual resolution and camera model of the raw file)

How was it zooming and panning? Applying noise reduction? Doing highlight/shadow adjustments? How about doing HDR Merges or Panaorama stitching?

If Affinity Photo for iPad can perform these tasks smoothly then I will be seriously impressed.
My Surface Pro 3 can open my A7Rii RAW files but as soon as I try to zoom, it takes ages to generate the view, applying noise reduction is also a really CPU intensive process. Lightroom is a crazy inefficient program though so I have better hopes regarding the performance on a decently optimized program.

Even Pixelmator on my iPad Air 2 doesn't like the huge resolution of the A7Rii files, it tells me I exceed the limits if I try to do any layering etc.
 
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macduke

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It makes me feel gross that people think $20 is too much for an app these days. This is a big reason why the iPad Pro hasn't taken off. If you guys want it to get better, you have to start paying into the system. I bought this app day one and it has been great. Support the devs of Pro apps if you want this platform to go anywhere. Otherwise us designers will be relegated to dark caves for the rest of our days.
 

Michael Scrip

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A couple of days ago, my dad demonstrated Affinity for me on his 12.9 (1st gen).
One of the more impressive things he showed me was handling of the largest RAW file he could find.
50 MP from a Hasselblad X1D.

As I recall it, it took only a few seconds (maybe 3-5 secs, not sure) to do the actual conversion. Everything else was snappy as f***.
He said it felt faster than Affinity on his i5 iMac 2009.

Overall he was extremely impressed with Affinity for iPad, apart from initial bugginess.

(edit: found the actual resolution and camera model of the raw file)

It certainly sounds like these new iPads are powerhouses.

Is the iPad Pro a part of his actual workflow though? Or was it just a demonstration?

You can obviously copy a file from the camera's memory card to the iPad, edit it with the pencil, etc... but you still have to copy the original file to a computer for long-term storage, right?

No doubt the iPad is powerful... it just seems like it's a 2nd computer inserted into the mix.
 

MTShipp

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It makes me feel gross that people think $20 is too much for an app these days. This is a big reason why the iPad Pro hasn't taken off. If you guys want it to get better, you have to start paying into the system. I bought this app day one and it has been great. Support the devs of Pro apps if you want this platform to go anywhere. Otherwise us designers will be relegated to dark caves for the rest of our days.

I agree. $20 is a steal for this app.
 

noteple

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$1000 iPad Pro with pencil
$2500 DLSR Lens cables memory cards....
Cannot spend $20 one time for Software ? o_O

Anyway had Photoshop will no longer pay Adobe Ransom
Used Capture One for Canon 5D MKII files but now Affinity On Mac
Looking forward to Affinity for IOS once iPad Pro gets delivered
 
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ManyThreads

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How was it zooming and panning? Applying noise reduction? Doing highlight/shadow adjustments? How about doing HDR Merges or Panaorama stitching?

If Affinity Photo for iPad can perform these tasks smoothly then I will be seriously impressed.
My Surface Pro 3 can open my A7Rii RAW files but as soon as I try to zoom, it takes ages to generate the view, applying noise reduction is also a really CPU intensive process. Lightroom is a crazy inefficient program though so I have better hopes regarding the performance on a decently optimized program.

Even Pixelmator on my iPad Air 2 doesn't like the huge resolution of the A7Rii files, it tells me I exceed the limits if I try to do any layering etc.
Thank you
A couple of days ago, my dad demonstrated Affinity for me on his 12.9 (1st gen).
One of the more impressive things he showed me was handling of the largest RAW file he could find.
50 MP from a Hasselblad X1D.

As I recall it, it took only a few seconds (maybe 3-5 secs, not sure) to do the actual conversion. Everything else was snappy as f***.
He said it felt faster than Affinity on his i5 iMac 2009.

Overall he was extremely impressed with Affinity for iPad, apart from initial bugginess.

(edit: found the actual resolution and camera model of the raw file)

Thank you for the info, that sounds promising. If it's quick to load, zoom in to check focus, and either keep/delete that's all I need and I will happy pay Affinity for that.
 

jenss

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How was it zooming and panning? Applying noise reduction? Doing highlight/shadow adjustments? How about doing HDR Merges or Panaorama stitching?

If Affinity Photo for iPad can perform these tasks smoothly then I will be seriously impressed.
My Surface Pro 3 can open my A7Rii RAW files but as soon as I try to zoom, it takes ages to generate the view, applying noise reduction is also a really CPU intensive process. Lightroom is a crazy inefficient program though so I have better hopes regarding the performance on a decently optimized program.

Even Pixelmator on my iPad Air 2 doesn't like the huge resolution of the A7Rii files, it tells me I exceed the limits if I try to do any layering etc.

It certainly sounds like these new iPads are powerhouses.

Is the iPad Pro a part of his actual workflow though? Or was it just a demonstration?

You can obviously copy a file from the camera's memory card to the iPad, edit it with the pencil, etc... but you still have to copy the original file to a computer for long-term storage, right?

No doubt the iPad is powerful... it just seems like it's a 2nd computer inserted into the mix.

Thank you


Thank you for the info, that sounds promising. If it's quick to load, zoom in to check focus, and either keep/delete that's all I need and I will happy pay Affinity for that.

I didn't pay enough attention at the time to be able to answer all your questions.
I clearly remember that pan and zoom was instantaneous. But I don't remember if that was before or after conversion.
But tomorrow I will receive a new 12.9, and test performance of Affinity for myself. I will get back to you.

My dad is just an amateur photographer, it's a retirement hobby. He loves image processing, and is obsessed with technical perfection. He runs all sorts of software in perpetual search for perfection.
On the Mac, Affinity has replaced Photoshop for him. He also uses a lot of standalone software, like Photo Ninja, imageJ and whatnot, so Affinity on the iPad will likely be a supplement, not a replacement for him.

One thing he did criticize was poor (or buggy) removal of chromatic aberration on raw images.
 
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eyeseeyou

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Been working on producing some layout design with a combination of vector and raster images.

100% of the work has been done on my iPad Pro using affinity photo(raster/photoshop) and Graphic(vector/illustrator).

So far so good.

I think the apps still need to be updated to use the files app as a bridge to save to and open from but for now it’s a minor annoyance.
 
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