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Fernandez21

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I dunno, I'm not having the text selection problems others have had with the iPhone, in fact I find it better than on android. I heard it's better on N though, haven't used that yet though.
 
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jamezr

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Android can have all this stuff first. As in Touch ID, when Apple implements whatever, it will be well thought out. In the meantime I want my iPhone to be like the tortoise.
Wait...is your iphone slowing down? Is it lagging? Is it becoming choppy or something? You're the first person I heard say they want their phone to be slow......
 

BigMcGuire

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I can really respect someone who has actually tried both phones. A lot of pro-android people I know have never used an iPhone and yet hate it. A lot of iPhone people I know hate Android and have never used it. How do you know you don't like it unless you've tried it?

Really appreciate the time you spent - found your post very interesting. I started out with Droid 1, HTC Thunderbolt, iPhone 4s, iPhone 5, Moto X, Note 3, and now have had the iPhone 6+ for over a year. I find a lot of your views very similar to mine minus the fact that I don't torrent, etc...

For me, build quality, no need to spend forever fiddling with the phone to get standby battery life to be acceptable (used to have to root to do this back in the day), and like you, I think the iPhone screen wins against SAMOLED. So I'm probably sticking with iPhone for awhile - but SD card, quick charging, and edge to edge screen is tempting.

Definitely think people should go with what they want. Thanks for your post, I found it very interesting.
 
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From someone who loves IOS devices, and I have many Android models. Note 3, 4, 5, S4, S5, and so on. This new S7 Edge is the best phone I have ever owned. My last phone was a 6S plus and the battery life on the S7 edge equals that of the iphone. I don't have to tweak it to last all day! Love it. You will love it if you get one.

As many of you here may know, I'm a big Android fan. I like it way more than iOS, mainly because on Android I can do stuff that iOS never allowed me to do (downloading torrents, youtube videos, playing emulators, theming, etc). But I got tired of having to adjust everything on my phone to get good battery life or performance. Sometimes you can install an app and you might get wakelocks which destroy your battery life, and then you get crazy searching for what app it is and other annoyances.

I've been wanting to try iOS again for a while now. Last thursday I saw a nice deal on a second hand shop I usually check to see nice deals on latest phones. There was a new 6S+ 64GB in like new condition for 735 euros, 148 euros cheaper than brand new here. I decided to buy it and try it to see if I could adjust. My previous phone was an S6. First few days I was happy.

Positives:

- Performance is excellent (way faster web page loading times and haven't seen any lag). The A9 is seriously an awesome chip.
- Battery life has been unbelievable!! I can get like 6 hours screen on time with brightness at 50%. It's difficult to measure screen on time on iOS, but the battery like is just the best I've ever seen. This was one of the main reasons to switch back to iOS.
- The screen is the best I've ever seen. I love loooooove IPS technology. Makes my S6 AMOLED panel look terrible next to it! The brightness level is almost double! And the colors are way nicer for me. This was another key point to make the switch. It's impossible for me to find such a good screen on Android. Almost no manufacturer uses IPS, except LG and Huawei, but their aren't this good.
- Build quality is also the best in the industry. I love the slight curve in the edges of the screen.
- TouchID is just awesome. Never misses. So so comfortable to use. On the S6 it could be a pain because it failed a lot, so I never had it enabled.
- Siri is way more useful than S Voice.
- I love the looks of iOS 9 overall. Very clean and pleasent to look at.
- I really like 3D Touch. It's a great new feature and very useful on iOS, like when you force touch on the phone app to dial one of your favorites. It's like widget functionality. Very cool and easy to use, but not so much the multitasking gesture from the side of the screen. It's a pain to do. Really, really terrible.

Problem is iOS does so so many things worst than Android, and I mean little things. Here's a brief list:

- Notifications are a mess here. Sometimes I get a notification from Gmail of a new email before the stock Mail app, because it still has push notifications (I have it set up to check every 15 minutes for new emails). It's redundant needing two separate email apps, and both work terrible, just terrible compared to the Gmail app in Android, where I can easily swipe to delete messages, whereas in iOS I need to swipe and select "move to trash" in the stock Mail app and in the Gmail app I have to select the email and the click the delete button. With whatsapp I get every single message in a sort of list view, instead of showing them in less space like Android does.
- I miss a lot the back button. It makes everything so much easier. Some apps allow to go back with a gesture, but others don't (like Keep), and you still need to reach to the top of the screen to click the back button. There's no consistency. It's annoying not knowing how to go back in every app.
- Most apps don't allow to swipe through tabs or menus, like on Android. Take the Tapatalk app or Facebook app. On iOS you have to click the tabs to move to them, but on Android you just swipe left or right to access them. Some apps on iOS allow this, but very very few.
- On Android, when I get a facebook messenger message or whatsapp message on the lockscreen or anywhere on the phone, the notification shows me the picture of that contact in said apps. On iOS it shows you the app icon. It's a small thing, but these small things add up and make everything worst.
- Multitasking seems improved, but not much. Google photos can upload photos in the background it seems, but it takes ageeeeeesssss. It even tells you to keep the app open to upload the photos faster. On Android I can forget about this. Every time I make a new photo it is automatically uploaded in the background, so when I open the app it's already uploaded. This may consume more battery, but it's more convenient.
- Third party keyboards are TERRIBLE on iOS. This might be the biggest reason for switching back. I've installed Swype (my favorite), Swiftkey, Go keyboard, etc. They just don't work well at all. Swype even freezed the other day and I had to restart the phone. Switching keyboards is a pain compared with Android (which you do through the notification panel). There are certain features that are not present compared to their Android counterparts. For example, none of them allow to use dictation. Just the apple stock keyboard. Also, deleting text is slower than on Android. Also, the way to move the cursor over the screen is terrible. On Android it's much easier and faster. Overall, having to type on iOS is a pain. I take 3 times more time to write the same amount of text on iOS than I normally do on Android, which is just wicked fast.
- Widgets in the notification center are just useless. I have over 100 apps installed and there's not one single widget useful there.
- Extensions are a big jump forward for iOS, but still there aren't many. I hoped to see much more.
- The vibration on the iPhone is really, really weak. Can't even feel it on my pocket. I tried making a vibration pattern that would keep the vibration on as long as possible, but still makes no effect. I never notice my iPhone vibrating on the table when sleeping or in my pocket, and I'm not using any case. The S6 vibration is like 4 times stronger.
- More small things. Whatsapp on iOS doesn't allow you to send messages if it's not connected to wifi or 3G/4G. Sometimes I'm out of cellular coverage but I send the messages anyway on Android and when the phone get's coverage again the messages send themselves automatically. Also, you can't hear whatsapp audio messages on the background like on Android. If you hit play on the audio message and leave the app to do something else while your listening it will stop. On Android I can play the audio message and keep doing other stuff, and then go back and answer it with another audio message.
- Some apps look weird on the 6S+. My college app, for example, which I use to check classes and more, looks really weird. It's not optimized, clearly, but on Android it looks great on every phone and tablet I've used.
- On Twitter you can't download an image from inside the app. On Android you can.
- Facebook messenger doesn't have the heads up feature on iOS. At first I hated it when it was released, but it's great because that way I don't forget about it.
- I missed a lot looking up the screen and seeing if I had any new notification shown with the icon, like on Android. It allowed me to know always if there was something new.
- There's no control panel toggle for enabling 3G/4G. There's also no option to select 2G, just 3G or 2G/3G/4G automatically like on Android. Where I live, I need to select 2G to have good enough coverage to receive calls.

There are other small annoyances I've experienced this week with the 6S+. I want to keep the phone, because the screen, battery and performance are awesome, but using the phone is more annoying than my S6, where I could do everything 3 times faster, like answering a message with the better swype keyboard and going back with the back button in less than 10 seconds, whereas on iOS I take a lot more time because Swype doesn't work as good and there's no easily accesible back button which works across all apps and across all the system.

I'm waiting to sell the iPhone and will go back for now to the S6. Next phone might be the S7, M10 or next Nexus. All I need is more battery life and an IPS screen and I would be happy. Android has some very, very cool features. The S6, for example, has the KICK football app preinstalled which I love. It brings up a widget whenever a football match is about to start of your favorite teams, but is hided on the side of the screen like the edge software of the S7 edge, so it doesn't bother you. And whenever a goal is scored a crowd screaming sound sounds, making it easily recognizable. Vibration is also stronger and as a phone it works better for me in almost all aspects. Shame the fingerprint reader doesn't work as good and battery life is terrible. Everything else is almost perfect. I like the screen, but I prefer IPS and more brightness.

Also, the 6S+ is too big. It's my second phablet (after the note 4), and it's just too much. I wanted the better battery life and the 1080P screen over the 6S, which was too small with a 4.7 screen. 5.5 screen is too big also to swype comfortably with the swype keyboard.

Well, this has been my experienced after one week with the 6S+. I guess I won't be coming back to iOS in a while again. My previous iPhone was the 4. There are many, many little things iOS needs to work to catch up to Android.
 

msavic

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There's plenty of benefits to both platforms and I personally think you're missing out if you limit yourself to one platform.

I own the S7 Edge and an iPad Air 2, this combination gives me the best of both worlds and I don't miss out on any exclusive features such as iMessage and FaceTime. With that said, I personally wouldn't own an iPhone as my smartphone, I appreciate iOS but it doesn't fit my needs for a smartphone.

The iPad is the best tablet available and iOS is incorporated beautifully even though it doesn't make the most of the available space but there really is no competition from the Android side.

I also own a Surface Pro 3 for more serious school work and tasks that can't be done on the iPad which is really just a consumption device for me at this point.

Regardless of all this, I think it's a good idea to diversify your "tools" as there isn't one which is a perfect fit for every person and every task. It's best to try all the platforms available and choose according to what fits your needs best, keyword being your.
 

admob71

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I had to stop reading after the OP said the 6s makes his amoled screen look terrible. He has either a damaged screen or broken eyes...
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Android can have all this stuff first. As in Touch ID, when Apple implements whatever, it will be well thought out. In the meantime I want my iPhone to be like the tortoise.
You sir are awesome.. well thought out touch id ? You place your finger on the slot and hey presto it unlocks. Enjoy seeing all the new and exciting features and thinking you will maybe get them in a year or two after Apple has copied them. Let me guess, when they do water proofing, they will.do it right eh? Jeez
 

MRU

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I had to stop reading after the OP said the 6s makes his amoled screen look terrible. He has either a damaged screen or broken eyes...

Or simply a personal preference and their own opinion ..

Were they being overly dramatic in their wording? Yes. But they are still entitled to their own opinion & preference.
 
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C DM

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I had to stop reading after the OP said the 6s makes his amoled screen look terrible. He has either a damaged screen or broken eyes...
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You sir are awesome.. well thought out touch id ? You place your finger on the slot and hey presto it unlocks. Enjoy seeing all the new and exciting features and thinking you will maybe get them in a year or two after Apple has copied them. Let me guess, when they do water proofing, they will.do it right eh? Jeez
Is that why there was another phone out there that had unlocking as inherent, basic, straightforward, quick, and realizable as TouchID made it (with other manufacturers having their similar versions that were like that only afterward)?
 

admob71

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Or simply a personal preference and their own opinion ..

Were they being overly dramatic in their wording? Yes. But they are still entitled to their own opinion & preference.
As I say, broken eyes... probably some sort of colour blindness. Considering the s6 has been scientifically proven to have the most accurate colours.
 

nj-morris

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Or simply a personal preference and their own opinion ..

Beat me to it.
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As I say, broken eyes... probably some sort of colour blindness. Considering the s6 has been scientifically proven to have the most accurate colours.

Ok, my phone has been scientifically proven to be the best. It doesn't work like that. Some people just prefer the way LCD looks when viewing content. You don't need accurate colours when you're reading emails, do you?
 

MRU

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As I say, broken eyes... probably some sort of colour blindness. Considering the s6 has been scientifically proven to have the most accurate colours.

Scientifically Proven is the wrong wording.

Your simply talking about displaymate test results, and even then it's more nuanced than just generalised statement you made. For a start they are referring to 'basic mode' which drops the over saturation and mutes the colours. Once that has been turned on the colour difference between the S7/e and the 6S+ is very minimal - with colours and images looking very similar on both panels.

Question is how many Samsung users actually use this mode ? Most here seem to always reference vibrancy and 'pop when comparing and referencing the screens - which means they are actually then preferring the least 'accurate' in that regard.

But this is by the by, It's still doesn't change the fact you couldn't be bothered to read the OP's full post, but felt the need to respond with a snide remark. That's plain ignorance.
 

admob71

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Beat me to it.
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Ok, my phone has been scientifically proven to be the best. It doesn't work like that. Some people just prefer the way LCD looks when viewing content. You don't need accurate colours when you're reading emails, do you?
That's not the issue, so cut the snide remarks. If the s6 screen has been compared by men in white labs using scientific instruments and their verdict was that it's as close to displaying colours in their true form as is physically possible, then anyone who's eyes prefer something else ie. An iPhone with its more "natural colours"? What does that even mean... need to have their eyes tested,
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Scientifically Proven is the wrong wording.
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No its not, have you bothered to look at all the display data, spectrum analysis results, colour gamut, RGB ranges, all sorts of stuff.

Probably not, how did you word it, that's just plain ignorance.
 
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MRU

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No its not, have you bothered to look at all the display data, spectrum analysis results, colour gamut, RGB ranges, all sorts of stuff.

Probably not, how did you word it, that's just plain ignorance.


You simply don't understand the difference between proof and scientific evidence. Your referring to a single set of displaymate test result. They are indeed evidence, they are not however scientifically proven.

Proofs exist only in mathematics and logic, not in science. Mathematics and logic are both closed, self-contained systems of propositions, whereas science is empirical and deals with nature as it exists. The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof. All else equal (such as internal logical consistency and parsimony), scientists prefer theories for which there is more and better evidence to theories for which there is less and worse evidence. Proofs are not the currency of science.

Proofs have two features that do not exist in science: They are final, and they are binary. Once a theorem is proven, it will forever be true and there will be nothing in the future that will threaten its status as a proven theorem (unless a flaw is discovered in the proof). Apart from a discovery of an error, a proven theorem will forever and always be a proven theorem.

In contrast, all scientific knowledge is tentative and provisional, and nothing is final. There is no such thing as final proven knowledge in science. The currently accepted theory of a phenomenon is simply the best explanation for it among all available alternatives. Its status as the accepted theory is contingent on what other theories are available and might suddenly change tomorrow if there appears a better theory or new evidence that might challenge the accepted theory. No knowledge or theory (which embodies scientific knowledge) is final. That, by the way, is why science is so much fun.

Further, proofs, like pregnancy, are binary; a mathematical proposition is either proven (in which case it becomes a theorem) or not (in which case it remains a conjecture until it is proven). There is nothing in between. A theorem cannot be kind of proven or almost proven. These are the same as unproven.

So yes. You chose the wrong wording ...
 
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admob71

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You simply don't understand the difference of proven and scientifically proven. To be scientifically proven a result has to be reproduced multiple times from different bodies. Your referring to a single set of displaymate test result. They are indeed proof, they are not however scientifically proven.
Are you calling me thick?
 

nj-morris

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That's not the issue, so cut the snide remarks. If the s6 screen has been compared by men in white labs using scientific instruments and their verdict was that it's as close to displaying colours in their true form as is physically possible, then anyone who's eyes prefer something else ie. An iPhone with its more "natural colours"? What does that even mean... need to have their eyes tested,
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No its not, have you bothered to look at all the display data, spectrum analysis results, colour gamut, RGB ranges, all sorts of stuff.

Probably not, how did you word it, that's just plain ignorance.

Sorry what? I don't recall making the snide remarks. As I understand, you were the one claiming the OP had 'broken eyes'.

My point is, men in white labs using scientific equipment could make the verdict that the colour blue is generally more visually appealing to humans than other colours, but that doesn't make people wrong or have 'broken eyes' if their favourite colour is red. It's the same with display technology. It's opinion based.

People look at a screen, and they think, 'that's a nice screen', because it provides a nicer experience to look at, not because of the spectrum data analyses, RGB results and whatever else. And the whole thing with the more natural colours, that again comes down to opinion. Natural just means more pleasing to the eye, and again refer to my analogy with colours.

You're acting as if all human brains function the same way. They don't. That's how opinions form. You're going on about colour gamuts and spectrum analyses, but you're completely ignoring human nature and psychology.
 

Klyster

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Your post was kinda snide...

That said, I can see your initial point and on a personal level, I think the S6 screen looks much better......... to me.

If you found the taste of pork more superior to beef and someone had done a scientific study and concluded beef was superior, would you admit to being wrong?

That kinda how it works, obviously the metrics would be a lot different but I'm sure you get my point.

Don't feel picked on, just adapt and enjoy :)
 
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I7guy

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I had to stop reading after the OP said the 6s makes his amoled screen look terrible. He has either a damaged screen or broken eyes...
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You sir are awesome.. well thought out touch id ? You place your finger on the slot and hey presto it unlocks. Enjoy seeing all the new and exciting features and thinking you will maybe get them in a year or two after Apple has copied them. Let me guess, when they do water proofing, they will.do it right eh? Jeez
Is that why after Touch ID, phone manufacturers tripped over themselves to get fingerprint reading better or right? Additionally After the 5s, how many 32 bit flagship phones are now on the market?
 
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