Airport Problems : All Intel Models Affected.

[technicolor]

While I must be in some tiny minority, the AirPort on both my 17" Intellimac and my mini duo both work just fine. No issues. Whatsoever. Reception and throughput are better than that of my 12" PB (no champion there, I know... but I'm just saying they're fine).

same here. my macbook pro is working well on my network full strength bars

 

[technicolor]

Wireless Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x86)
Wireless Card Locale: USA
Wireless Card Firmware Version: 0.1.12

MBP 2.0... everything is working fine here. I'm getting 6900kbps downstream from SpeakEasy with no performance or disconnect issues.

That is the same firmware I have, no issues at all.

 

[MacSA]

The curse of revision A strikes.

 

[XIII]

Isn't there an installer you can use to extract specific things from install files/dvds? Try extracting airport firmware from the OS X disc with Pacifist.

 

[FocusAndEarnIt]

For some reason, my iMac G5 will not connect to my wireless network when it starts up! It doesn't even see the network, I'm not liking this.

Any ideas?

 

[XIII]

For some reason, my iMac G5 will not connect to my wireless network when it starts up! It doesn't even see the network, I'm not liking this.

Any ideas?

Ya, nothing to do with this thread.....

 

[MRU]

Ya, nothing to do with this thread.....

I wish they wouldnt confuse. But hey

Well i've tried using pacifist on my install discs to not much avail I'm afraid. God knows where the package is. I'll keep searching if I find it (even though mine is useless) it will at least give directions for someone with 0.1.16 to find.

 

[XIII]

I wish they wouldnt confuse. But hey

Well i've tried using pacifist on my install discs to not much avail I'm afraid. God knows where the package is. I'll keep searching if I find it (even though mine is useless) it will at least give directions for someone with 0.1.16 to find.

I'll have a look round for it tomorrow.

 

[DjMikeySmiles]

Same in Apple Store (Soho)

The Apple Store in Soho, NY has new MBPs on display - all of which are connected wirelessly. I walked in with the intention of buying one. I was shocked, Safari was dragging as if it were a dial-up modem. I tried other MBPs in the store (a total of 3 machines) and they all had serious connectivity problems! I walked out of the store. I guess I'll wait a little longer until they fix the problem.

 

[flir67]

mac mini airport connection problem

I have the core duo 1gig with superdrive
Wireless Card Type: AirPort Extreme
Wireless Card Locale: USA
Wireless Card Firmware Version: 0.1.16
Current Wireless Network: shelly3
Wireless Channel: 11

when I first used it, the airport had a hardtime connection to my ibook in the next room. but it seems the more i use it, the stronger the signal gets. I know tha sounds odd but it seems true, the more restarts,etc..

got this baby hooked up to a 27" lcd olevia and looks great via vga...
has anybody run test on the heat expsoluion.. mine seems like a heater constantly. but the fan is very strong and quiet.

good luck

 

[iEdd]

I haven't noticed any problems... Yet..
Are the problems in general with people using 3rd party brand routers (ie, not airport express/extreme), or are they happening to everyone?

 

[ncook06]

Are the problems in general with people using 3rd party brand routers (ie, not airport express/extreme), or are they happening to everyone?

It seems that the problems are occurring regardless of which router you use.

 

[FBDiver]

Hi all, New iMac user, first time caller.....

I just unboxed my 17" Intel Duo Core iMac yesterday, first iMac (1st Apple anything)so some of my problems are most likely user related.

Anyway, the only problem I've seen was trying to connect to my Motorola wireless router, I am using WEP and was not using key 1. I could not get the iMac to auth to my router with my key, until I copied the correct key into the key 1 slot. Then the iMac connected, but could not get an IP. So I finally had to set the router to auth with key 1 and I haven't seen any problems since. The iMac did lose the key after the second round of update downloads and reboots, but the updates went very fast, did some browsing, and everything seems fine. I will continue to test, or actually run some specific tests.

Any commments or suggestions on WEP keys with Mac OS as in having the OS use specific keys in network setup? (my Mac buddy who brought me to the dark side had no experience and couldn't help me.)

 

[MRU]

New Readers Read This!!

PEOPLE READ THE OTHER POSTS!

I'm trying to keep this thread restricted to those who are having the problems with fluctuating ping rates and very poor download performance.
1/4 or 1/2 of what we should be getting from their ISP


APPLE are watching this thread and by posting other items even slightly off topic diverts their attention down an angle that doesn't solve the problem I'm trying to get them to resolve.....

NETWORK CONNECTION drop outs after wake/sleep & POOR SIGNAL STRENGTH are shared by some of the firmware versions inclduing 0.1.12; in the airports, but they are not as bad a problem as the ones caused by FIRMWARE 101.3

If you want to know if you suffer this problem. Run the NETWORK UTILITY application in your UTLITIES folder. And in the ping tab, put in the ip address of your router if you know if. If you don't put in http://www.google.com etc.. and press the blue ping.

Normal machines report pings like

64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.647 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.547 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1.437 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.322 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=1.252 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=1.161 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=1.051 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=1.914 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=1.804 ms


However... Fecked up AIRPORT and THIS ISSUE report back

64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.820 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.826 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=92.869 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=44.737 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.722 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=266.741 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=219.035 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=172.265 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=123.960 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=76.701 ms

See how the ms numbers FLUCTUATE and don't seem to follow a structure like the first set. If you don't see this, you dont have this problem.

Thanks....

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SMALL UPDATE:

Confirmed 100% this is a software issue.
A fellow poster with 0.1.16 Firmware which experienced NO PROBLEMS with fluctuating pings etc, decided to re-install his OS from the restore discs. He thought clearing out the extra languages etc..

However once completed he checked his firmware and it had dropped to 0.1.12 and now he has some signal strength problems... (but not the ping)...

I imagine later machines got a 0.1.16 update firmware in the factory and our install discs supplied don't have this on them. hence looking for the package is pointless.

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APPLE RELEASE 0.1.16 either as a software update or on your support site as an optional install.....

 

[theheyes]

Just throwing some more information into the pot that may or may not turn out to be useful:

I just reinstalled OS X (different issue) and the firmware shows up for the airport card as:

100.9 (3.120.28.3)

First thing I did was open up terminal and ping the router - same erratic results. If anything they're worse. Previously the ping results would cycle from 1ms for maybe 5 pings or so and work up to 250ms gradually, and then back down to 1ms. And repeat.

Now they just seem to be all over the place.

 

[XIII]

Thanks MacRumorUser: it seems obvious this is an airport software problem, Apple have the software somewhere, and we just need an update. Where the **** it is I don't know..

 

[Zaty]

Just throwing some more information into the pot that may or may not turn out to be useful:

I just reinstalled OS X (different issue) and the firmware shows up for the airport card as:

100.9 (3.120.28.3)

First thing I did was open up terminal and ping the router - same erratic results. If anything they're worse. Previously the ping results would cycle from 1ms for maybe 5 pings or so and work up to 250ms gradually, and then back down to 1ms. And repeat.

Now they just seem to be all over the place.

Yet another firmware version...

Did you update to 10.4.5?

I recently did a fresh install as well and I ended up with 101.3. Of note: my iMac shipped with 10.4.4 build 8G1171.

 

[Sutekidane]

No issues here with my iMac. Besides some software quirks, the hardware has been cool, quiet, and completely stable.

 

[simon-says]

Do any of you guys have issues where all the other machines on your wireless are dropped as well? My Powerbook G4 is showing the same symptoms as you guys, but it's also dropping everyone else on the wireless as well.

 

[theheyes]

Yet another firmware version...

Did you update to 10.4.5?

I recently did a fresh install as well and I ended up with 101.3. Of note: my iMac shipped with 10.4.4 build 8G1171.

Updated to 10.4.5 and I'm back to 101.3, I just thought I'd test it with a fresh install. Like I say, its probably of little use knowing that but I thought I'd post it up anyway.

Do any of you guys have issues where all the other machines on your wireless are dropped as well? My Powerbook G4 is showing the same symptoms as you guys, but it's also dropping everyone else on the wireless as well.

lol that reminds me of a time when my iBook didn't agree with my router and somehow, somewhere, some DNS settings were changed. It took me two days to figure out why I couldnt browse the web.

All in good fun though.

 

[tsfall]

MacBook data

OK guys,

I got my MacBook Pro (Stock config 1.83Ghz) couple of days ago, and at first was having the exact same problems as you guys are suggesting.

So here's the details on the hardware:

AirPort Card Information:

Wireless Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x86)
Wireless Card Locale: Worldwide
Wireless Card Firmware Version: 0.1.12
Current Wireless Network: Fallguys
Wireless Channel: 11

Interesting thing is, my router is an 802.11b version (D-Link DSL-604+) but has a 'turbo' mode which boosts data rates to 22Mbps.
I took my first MacBook back because of the problems with WiFi and got an OTC swap, and I tested the new one in the Apple Store. All was good, got it home and same problem again.
So I checked my router settup and this turbo mode was enabled by default. Turned it off, and it's perfect, all the machines on my network are fine (all macs of varying ages all connecting over AirPort) and the download rates are exactly as they should be for my line.

Hope that helps someone!!
Tom Fall

 

[Zaty]

Updated to 10.4.5 and I'm back to 101.3, I just thought I'd test it with a fresh install. Like I say, its probably of little use knowing that but I thought I'd post it up anyway.

So, 10.4.5 contains a firmware update. Unfortunately, it doesn't fix the problem. We'll probably have to wait until 10.4.6 or even 10.4.7.

 

[Stanford]

I just bought my first Apple product. Internet connection is fine, but my browsing speed is slower than modem. There is no way I can work with this problem. Hope a solution is on the way.

 

[iflipper]

Intel mac mini core duo, firmware 0.1.16 on wireless card. Using old linksys wireless b wap with separate router (no need to update whilst cable connection still only 1gb).

ping report:
Ping has started ...

PING http://www.l.google.com (66.102.9.147): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=46.063 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=39.427 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=52.494 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=3 ttl=239 time=42.992 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=4 ttl=239 time=40.656 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=5 ttl=239 time=39.176 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=6 ttl=240 time=66.172 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=7 ttl=239 time=49.269 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=8 ttl=240 time=80.410 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=9 ttl=239 time=43.656 ms

--- http://www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 39.176/50.032/80.410/12.705 ms

Ping has started ...

PING http://www.l.google.com (66.102.9.147): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=50.372 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=39.833 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=2 ttl=239 time=39.594 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=55.189 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=41.147 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=5 ttl=239 time=40.709 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=6 ttl=240 time=65.961 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=7 ttl=240 time=41.321 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=8 ttl=240 time=41.548 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.147: icmp_seq=9 ttl=239 time=80.424 ms

--- http://www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 39.594/49.610/80.424/13.149 ms


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A bit of fluctuation but to be honest the mini is faster than my ibook at connecting and downloading so I have no complaints about speed. Doesn't like reconnecting automatically after reboot though.

 

[MRU]

No that's about right for google etc..

Your 0.1.16 doesn't really fluctuate.

With 101.3 on my imac

PING http://www.l.google.com (66.102.9.104): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=55.189 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=77.023 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=395.813 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=72.353 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=4 ttl=243 time=299.285 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=5 ttl=243 time=568.328 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=6 ttl=244 time=519.955 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=8 ttl=243 time=424.620 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=9 ttl=243 time=55.004 ms

Look at those figures in comparison - that's a fluctuation From 55.004 - 519.955ms

Your OK with 0.1.16 (just wish we all had that firmware)

A bit of fluctuation but to be honest the mini is faster than my ibook at connecting and downloading so I have no complaints about speed. Doesn't like reconnecting automatically after reboot though.