Airport Problems : All Intel Models Affected.

[iflipper]

No that's about right for google etc..

Your 0.1.16 doesn't really fluctuate.

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Your OK with 0.1.16 (just wish we all had that firmware)

Well hopefully if enough people post about it they will release it as an update.

 

[negz]

MacBook Pro 2.0Ghz, Netgear WG602v2 Access Point

Wireless Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x86)
Wireless Card Locale: Worldwide
Wireless Card Firmware Version: 0.1.12

I use wireless almost exclusively and have not noticed any wireless connectivity or speed issues either at home or on any of the access points at Uni.

 

[IanC]

Doesn't like reconnecting automatically after reboot though.

Thats an issue with 10.4.5, my iBook suffers from it too.

 

[Shaddow825]

At this point I am just going to wait before getting my MBP. I only connect wirelessly so it is the one thing I can't live with it being flaky. Once I see that there is an Airport update and read that it fixes these issues Apple will get my money. It's hard to hold myself back now that the closest Apple store to me has them in stock.

 

[MRU]

At this point I am just going to wait before getting my MBP. I only connect wirelessly so it is the one thing I can't live with it being flaky. Once I see that there is an Airport update and read that it fixes these issues Apple will get my money. It's hard to hold myself back now that the closest Apple store to me has them in stock.

I dont blame you. There are workarounds, but these are not ideal after spending a couple thousand $ on a laptop or desktop...

I will be buying myself a 13.3" widescreen macbook when they launch in April (I hope) and I pray the wireless situation is sorted by then. Or I'll have to put the purchase on hold...

 

[elbirth]

Just thought I'd chime in here to share my experiences so far with my MacBook Pro...

I use it exclusively on wireless when I'm at home, and alternate from wired to wireless when on campus at school. At home, I use a WRT54GS router with basic WEP encryption and a non-broadcasting SSID and sometimes I get dropped connections. While this does happen sometimes, there are other times where it can go days without losing the connection. At school, I have no idea what type of access points are used, but I don't seem to have the disconnect issue.... I do know they're 802.11b though... maybe that has something to do with it?

I've only noticed a couple times where it would not reconnect upon coming out of sleep, but restarting the applications (not the computer) fixed it right up. My speeds, however, are just fine.

My MacBook Pro does randomly reboot about once every 24-34 hours, but I'm wondering if it's the 3rd party RAM I put in... I'm taking it out tonight to find out for sure though....

 

[apunkrockmonk]

Just got my new macbook 1.83 in the mail today. I try to connect to my linksys wireless B router. My old iBook g4 connected fine.... the macbook says that there is an error every time I try and connect...

 

[elbirth]

Also something I forgot....

Perhaps I'm missing something since this is my first Mac.... but I don't seem to be able to save wireless profiles. There are 3 that I regularly connect to, and it's very annoying having to re-enter encryption keys. As long as I'm on one access point it works fine, but when I try to go to another one, the information doesn't seem to be saved anywhere, even though I check the box to save the passwords.
Am I missing something, or is this another issue?

 

[Stanford]

Any update

Any news from Apple yet?

I've got the fluctuating ping rates, bigtime. My old 900MHz laptop PC with 384MB is absolutely shredding my new iMac's performance, sadly.

Navigating the web is terrible enough right now, but streaming video is so out of the question. Excruciatingly slow, if not impossible.

 

[MRU]

Nope. I keep updating the different threads (this one and three others on each of the Apple discussion pages for each hardware).

So annoying having to wait and every few hours I run software updater in the vein hope that it will appear, to no avail :0

We know what is causing the problem, we know a firmware that will fix the problem so why do they delay?

Any news from Apple yet?

I've got the fluctuating ping rates, bigtime. My old 900MHz laptop PC with 384MB is absolutely shredding my new iMac's performance, sadly.

Navigating the web is terrible enough right now, but streaming video is so out of the question. Excruciatingly slow, if not impossible.

 

[MRU]

HOLD ON!!!! Check Software Update. A new Security Fix for Intel is out.

I'm downloading now. I'll edit and report back as soon as I'm installed and rebooted. Hopefully they sneaked some fix in there

 

[BakedBeans]

im downloading it myself now but i dont think it will fix our troubles

 

[MRU]

im downloading it myself now but i dont think it will fix our troubles

Your Right. Same firmware... Same Ping

PING 10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=74.618 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.062 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.082 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=243.424 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=195.489 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=146.395 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=96.493 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=48.596 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.799 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=270.372 ms

AGHHHHHHHHHH they got my hopes up

 

[MacSA]

Sigh....this is putting me off getting a Mac. Some of the first PPC Minis had a problem with dark VGA display, and now the new Intel Mini's have serious problems with wireless.

 

[Fognut]

Well hopefully if enough people post about it they will release it as an update.

I'm not sure that firmware (0.1.16) will fix the problem. The airport card in my Mac Mini Cure Duo has firmware 0.1.16 and I have have the same problems as others in this thread. Pings to my router range from 2ms through to 250ms every 10 pings, airport does not automatically reconnect from cold start and my apple bluetooth mouse and keyboard have been re-paired twice since the computer arrived 5 days ago .....

 

[MRU]

I'm not sure that firmware (0.1.16) will fix the problem. The airport card in my Mac Mini Cure Duo has firmware 0.1.16 and I have have the same problems as others in this thread. Pings to my router range from 2ms through to 250ms every 10 pings, airport does not automatically reconnect from cold start and my apple bluetooth mouse and keyboard have been re-paired twice since the computer arrived 5 days ago .....

OH *****!!! That's bad news alright. Maybe we'll have to wait for a 0.1.17 or some such. Your the first with 0.1.16 to post the fluctuating pings - thanks for letting us know.

We'll keep the thread updated until we have a resolution

 

[munkees]

Why do I not see a problem. My intel iMac has not wireless problems, I use an airport extreme base station running 5.5.1 (5.7 does not work with my ISP t-online.de) I connect with 5 computers including my friend Sony laptop runngin XP pro.

My intel iMac is the fastest, followed by my powerbook g4

it about 20% faster than the XP.
and 10% than my G4 powerbook

I am running WEP 128 with my SSID hidden. I cannot run WPA due to the xp does not have support for it natively.

but with my macs performance between the G4 and the intel iMac, the iMac is still 10% quicker

So my guess it is not all the wireless cards, but maybe a bad batch of cards.

information from system profiler

iMac intel DC 20"

Wireless Card Type: Airport Extreme (0x14E4, 089)
Wireless Card Locale: Worldwide
Wireless Card firmware Version: 101.3(3.120.28.3)
Wireless Channel: 1

PowerMac G4 15" 1.5Ghz
Wireless Card Type: AirPort Extreme
Wireless Card Locale: USA
Wireless Card Firmware Version: 404.2 (3.90.34.0.p16)
Wireless Channel: 1

now my iMac was purchased in Germany from a local store. (tax rebated cost 24 buck more than apple store in US dollars). I am in the military, and apple does not ship to US personal overseas.

So this iMac was produced for the european market.
Are all the offending intel wireless Locale USA or Worldwide?

PS my airport base stationed was pruchased from the USA, Apple store online and shipped via inlaws. So my guess it USA locale aswell.

Just another viewpoint to see if sheds light into what might be the cause of the problem.

 

[PatrickF]

I am running WEP 128 with my SSID hidden. I cannot run WPA due to the xp does not have support for it natively.

XP from SP2 onwards supports WPA natively. Generally WPA is only supported on G hardware although I have had a B card on Windows XP that would do WPA.

 

[munkees]

XP from SP2 onwards supports WPA natively. Generally WPA is only supported on G hardware although I have had a B card on Windows XP that would do WPA.

guess i will slap SP2 tonight. I am fixing this for a friend.

 

[generik]

Wow, this situation is really crap now! I can barely maintain my IM connection on MSN

 

[MRU]

Why do I not see a problem.

iMac intel DC 20"

Wireless Card Type: Airport Extreme (0x14E4, 089)
Wireless Card Locale: Worldwide
Wireless Card firmware Version: 101.3(3.120.28.3)
Wireless Channel: 1
So this iMac was produced for the european market.
Are all the offending intel wireless Locale USA or Worldwide?

1) Please - Run the Network Utility / Ping test to clarify & post results.

2) USA & WORLDWIDE models are affected.

 

[weg]

Over on Apple discussions - there are literally hundreds(actually thousands if you add in the various topics from all the intel models and 10.4.5 upgrade) of issues regarding the network.

Here is a potential workaround that after trying it all - finally worked for me and others...might be worth a shot - it is a huge improvement. Unfortunately you do have to spend a few bucks($50)..

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=387261&tstart=0

Are you seriously considering to buy a wireless adapter instead of asking Apple to fix the problem? Wow, most companies would love having customers like you. Received a brand new computer with a broken hard-disk? Oh, no problem, you'd just buy a new harddisk somewhere else, wouldn't you?

 

[MacSA]

Perhaps it is a hardware problem rather than firmware. - That's much worse

 

[Lancetx]

While my 17" iMac Core Duo does seem to be just a tad more sluggish than my other Macs at times, I'm not really seeing any kind of dramatic problems during web browsing, downloading or while transferring files over the local network. I'm using a D-Link DI-624 router with WPA-PSK encryption enabled. I've had no AirPort reconnection problems at boot/login or any signal strength issues at all either. Anyway, here are my results for comparison. I'm about to head off for work, but I'll try to remember to check back tonight if anyone has any questions...

Wireless Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x14E4, 0x89)
Wireless Card Locale: Worldwide
Wireless Card Firmware Version: 101.3 (3.120.28.3)
Wireless Channel: 1

Router:
PING 192.168.101.100 (192.168.101.100): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.053 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.071 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.079 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.051 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.066 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.073 ms

--- 192.168.101.100 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.051/0.067/0.079/0.008 ms

Google:
PING http://www.l.google.com (64.233.179.99): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=164.743 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=279.411 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=238.809 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=183.322 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=135.259 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=240 time=28.292 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=240 time=28.681 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=7 ttl=240 time=28.560 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=8 ttl=240 time=27.977 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=9 ttl=240 time=28.115 ms

--- http://www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 27.977/114.317/279.411/93.526 ms

 

[MRU]

Intersting. Your ping to your router/bs is very fast (unbelievably fast in fact) and yet your google ping does the 22-280ms fluctuation?

There is somthing wrong there but not sure what. I think your encryption is covering it up, providing more reliable connection to your router, but not on the internet? STRANGE

Router:
PING 192.168.101.100 (192.168.101.100): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.053 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.071 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.079 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.051 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.066 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.101.100: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.073 ms

--- 192.168.101.100 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.051/0.067/0.079/0.008 ms

Google:
PING http://www.l.google.com (64.233.179.99): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=164.743 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=279.411 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=238.809 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=183.322 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=135.259 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=240 time=28.292 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=240 time=28.681 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=7 ttl=240 time=28.560 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=8 ttl=240 time=27.977 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.179.99: icmp_seq=9 ttl=240 time=28.115 ms

--- http://www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 27.977/114.317/279.411/93.526 ms