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esaleris said:
Dude,

You've used the MBP "extensively for the last two months." That means there's going to be wear on it. If it flaked off in a location that you don't touch often (like in the middle of the lid), I'd call them up. But since it looks like it's where your thumb rests when you're typing, it seems a bit unreasonable. Would you expect the undercarriage of your car to be perfect after driving 10K miles?

The product isn't really aluminium; it's aluminium coated with a coat of paint. It'll eventually wear off. So will the plastic that the space bar is made out of.

Anyway, in your defense, your other problems are worthy of mentioning. So go ahead and return it. I just don't think the paint flaking was that big of a deal, unless it was in a place you never touch.

There is no excuse for that flaking. I have seen powerbooks with years and years of heavy use that didn't do that. I think he has a case.
 
RichP said:
be careful tim, there may be evidence of the "project" from the other thread!

Let's hope they don't feel the need to open my screen to replace the logic board ;)

If they do, I'll complain about how my 1920x1200 LCD won't work and demand an upgrade to the 17", haha :x
 
n8236 said:
Eldirth, how many turnaround days did it take to get the top panel replaced and shipped back to you?

I should get it Monday.... which will make it about two and a half weeks that I've been without it, unfortunately.
It was on hold for a week at first so they could order the top case replacement.... then after having called Apple a few times asking what the deal was with the hold up, I mentioned in passing that I needed it for work. Once I said this, it immediately got put on a business critical list to be expedited (or so I was told). I don't know if that actually did make a difference, but if I ever have to send anything else in for repair, I'm immediately letting them know that it's my work machine... I'm having to use a Windows computer now and it's seriously hindered my work.
 
vv-tim said:
Has anyone had any luck getting the Apple Store to outright replace their laptop?

Mine's got paint issues, whine, the casing is coming apart, and now the random shutdowns (while I'm writing papers for class, no less!).

I really can't have a week's downtime... but I don't want to drive to Atlanta (hour and a half) just to find out they're going to be jerks about it. I mean, if I send it in they're going to replace the top bezel and logic board anyway... and the hard drive and RAM are both mine... so they're basically replacing the whole computer anyway, hah.

A good friend of mine actually works at an Apple store (not in a town near me anymore, otherwise I'd have taken it there to begin with...)
but he told me when I was complaining to him about my problem, that if I had Pro Care ($99/year) then he was about 98% sure if I walked into an Apple Store with my problems (same as yours) and flashed my Pro Care card, that it would have been replaced on the spot...
 
It could be worse - at least yours didn't come back from repair with a nice big scratch on it:



Been without my Powerbook for almost 2 months now. :( Called to demand a replacement machine as it's taken a ridiculous length of time, but they claimed they just got the part in that day and I should have it back next week. (if I don't have it by Thursday, they said they would sort out a replacement though, or if I do, some sort of compensation)
 
dang... I'd definitely make sure they replace at least the case if it came back like that. they should never have allowed it to be sent back after they did something like that to it.

but.. again, it could be worse. a co-worker of mine said he went 8 months without hit powerbook a while back while it was sent in for a simple repair.

at that point, i would have demanded a completely new computer at the very least
 
blaskillet4 said:
I know, old thread, but a recent
No, powerbooks or MBPs aren't painted, they're made of anodized aluminum. Which is basically, in layman's terms, aluminum thats been 'zapped' so that it rusts on the outside [Which gives it that matte look]. This makes it more resistant to kinks and scratches. It may or may not be dyed [Like the iPod mini].

Just looking at my MacBook Pro, and feeling the material, that strip which runs along the bottom of the keyboard is actually made out of plastic, or so it would seem...
 
elbirth said:
A good friend of mine actually works at an Apple store (not in a town near me anymore, otherwise I'd have taken it there to begin with...)
but he told me when I was complaining to him about my problem, that if I had Pro Care ($99/year) then he was about 98% sure if I walked into an Apple Store with my problems (same as yours) and flashed my Pro Care card, that it would have been replaced on the spot...

I'm not going to pay $99/year extra when their $2000 computer came to me with like 5 issues to begin with... it should be replaced on the spot. It's not like I paid $50 for this thing.
 
ok, so I just got my MBP back about half an hour ago after roughly 2 and a half weeks....

What they did to it:

- replaced battery (2nd time)
- SVC firmware update
- replaced finstack and heat sensor
- replaced heatpipe and heat sensor
- replaced inverter in the screen
- replaced top case around the keyboard area
- replaced keyboard
- replaced logic board



... wow... I don't see why they didn't just give me a whole new computer at this point. In any regards, so far everything seems ok. There was a bit of a dark area in my screen and it would buzz horribly if the brightness was not set to max- both of these issues are gone (so far).
the outside of the case still feels a bit hotter than any what I've felt of the system in a couple Apple stores (temperature widget shows 111.2F). I also haven't heard the whining sound yet that it was making after I got it back from the first repair.

Since they replaced the case, the paint is fixed and looks a LOT better... one thing I'm noticing, though, is that the material this case is made out of seems slightly different than what it originally came with. The original one seemed much slicker to the touch, where this one has almost a more plastic-ish feel to the coating. Not a problem or anything (it looks almost identical), but just interesting to note.

Additionally, with the logic board replacement, I now have a new set of DVDs if I have to reinstall the OS.

so... I'm going to keep a close eye on things over the next few days, and hopefully it has all been worked out.
 
What's ProCare? I know of AppleCare for the mbp that's 350 bux for an extra 2 yr extension of the warranty. For $99 a yr, I would probably do it if the Apple Stores refused to fix the paint peeling, I really hate hassling w/ the *******s that work there.
 
Sorry about that last post, I just read a whole thread on ProCare and AppleCare and it seems as though ProCare does not provide the type of coverage you had w/ the paint peeling? Can you clarify what the Apple rep told you regarding that?
 
n8236 said:
Sorry about that last post, I just read a whole thread on ProCare and AppleCare and it seems as though ProCare does not provide the type of coverage you had w/ the paint peeling? Can you clarify what the Apple rep told you regarding that?

what he told me was that ProCare guarantees that you get the fastest turn around on your repair, and that if it won't get back to you within a certain amount of time (he said just a couple days) that they would very likely replace the whole unit.

I would imagine there are restrictions to this depending on how old/new it is, what type of repair it is, etc
 
elbirth said:
what he told me was that ProCare guarantees that you get the fastest turn around on your repair, and that if it won't get back to you within a certain amount of time (he said just a couple days) that they would very likely replace the whole unit.

I would imagine there are restrictions to this depending on how old/new it is, what type of repair it is, etc

And apparently you have to purchase ProCare at an Apple Store...
I wonder if I show up and they refuse to replace it... you have to throw $100 at them and then they'll do it.

Pretty ridiculous.
 
vv-tim said:
And apparently you have to purchase ProCare at an Apple Store...
I wonder if I show up and they refuse to replace it... you have to throw $100 at them and then they'll do it.

Pretty ridiculous.

Ahahahah, ya, i found out ProCare is junk for the issue I'm trying to get across. I might try to go in and see how they react and then if ProCare will take care of it. I'll deal w/ it if it's 100 bux.

If you get a defective part replaced, can you keep the old one? Or ask for it?
 
My MacBook Pro just started to flake paint off in this area today. It looked kind of dirty in that ridge so I wiped it with my finger, and a mark showed up. Thinking it was just dirt on aluminum, I moved my fingernail over it and the paint chipped right off. It's as if the paint never bonded to the metal - it can be easily scratched off with no effort.

I'm just glad to hear they're replacing the keyboards. I've been putting off sending mine in to repair the other problems, but I guess now I have yet another excuse to just bite the bullet and be without it for a week or two.

Issues so far:

Flaking paint
Processor whine
LCD brightness whine
Loose right hinge
Track pad sticks out above palm rest

Plus the battery I already had replaced (Which is ok, I don't mind getting a new battery).

For your question n8236, replaced parts are always returned to Apple.
 
Allow me to repeat my experiences w/ the Apple Store. Since being denied by Apple Store Stonestown Mall San Francisco, I've discovered the right side of the trackpad button becomes sticky, 2 level mushy click, and loud "click" noise after 30 or more minutes of extensive use.

Because of this side issue, I will be able to replace my top panel w/o dealing w/ the paint chipping which the Store deems ambigious.

Even w/ this mouse button issue, the SF store has told me it would take up to 7 days to repair? o_O why so long? It takes less than 30 mins to get it replaced. I guess maybe cuz i don't have ProCare.
 
They quote seven days by default, but it could take more or less time. It really depends on whether or not they have the parts. Be careful though, the top case is separate from the keyboard.

It seems to me that it's safer to call Apple Care and have their repair center determine what is covered and what is not.
 
MacBookProRay said:
These computers are made out of aluminum. There is no paint. That is clearly and obviously done in photoshop. My 4 year old 12" g4 after 4 years of very very extensive use does not have anything like that, nor my 1 year old 17" g4, and nor does my macbookpro. You know why? Because there is no paint on these cases!!! And if there were, it would not be white....you could have done a better job phtoshopping.....it looks more like something done with the pencil tool in ms paint!!

Wow, just wow. I honestly can't believe you threw that accusation at an obviously honest person.
 
Chris Marks said:
They quote seven days by default, but it could take more or less time. It really depends on whether or not they have the parts. Be careful though, the top case is separate from the keyboard.

It seems to me that it's safer to call Apple Care and have their repair center determine what is covered and what is not.

Thanks for the headsup Chris, I didn't realize they would just replace the panel w/o the keyboard. But do you know if the slanted indented area is part of the keyboard or the panel? Thanks.
 
After reviewing the repair manual, the piece that is flaking paint is part of the top case, rather than the keyboard.

I'll probably call Apple for my box on Monday. I just have to figure out what computer I can use in the meantime.
 
Chris Marks said:
Issues so far:

Flaking paint
Processor whine
LCD brightness whine
Loose right hinge
Track pad sticks out above palm rest


Mine had all of those problems except the trackapd and they all seem to be fixed now (except I also had extreme heat issues, and that's only slightly lessened.. but I think I'm going to just deal with it, since it's less severe now).

About the trackpad though... do you mean the trackpad itself (where you drag your finger to move the mouse) sticks up above the palm rest? Or just the mouse button? Because the mouse button is supposed to stick up a little, while the touchpad is supposed to be flush with the palm rest, if not ever so slightly below the rest of the case. (You may realize this, but I've encountered a few people that thought that the mouse button sticking up was irregular.)
 
Glad to hear they fixed everything on yours. I just hope I mine doesn't take two and a half weeks as well to get back.

The track pad issue is with the actual touch sensitive area. The upper right corner of it sticks out above the palm rest, while the rest is just slightly below like usual. It can be pressed back into place, but always goes back after a an hour or two.
 
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