All iPads All Things iPadOS File System Thread

[Populus]

The new file system on iPad OS is on iOS 13 as well. So the only thing restraining the iPhone from being as capable as an iPad, is essentially the reduced screen.

Imagine the day when the screen size adapts automatically to external displays. It will be great for iPad Pro users, sure, because apps will take advantage of a bigger screen. But imagine how this could affect future iPhones. And here is where the USB-C connector for iPhones comes into play.

With this situation, just connecting your iPhone to a dock, on your desk, could unfold a whole new operative system (I like to call it Dock OS) which enables you to use your apps and documents on your iPhone, with a mouse and a keyboard using an external screen.

This is the future of computing, pocket computers that you can use, eventually, as a telephone or as a photo camera.

 

[EugW]

The new file system on iPad OS is on iOS 13 as well. So the only thing restraining the iPhone from being as capable as an iPad, is essentially the reduced screen.

No. iOS 13 is nowhere near as robust as iPadOS 13 for real desktop-like use. Not even close. It's not just the screen size per se, but the fact that many of those extra features are simply not supported on iOS 13.

 

[DarkIcarus]

No. iOS 13 is nowhere near as robust as iPadOS 13 for real desktop-like use. Not even close. It's not just the screen size per se, but the fact that many of those extra features are simply not supported on iOS 13.

Actually a lot of the features shown in the iPadOS segment of WWDC 2019 are on iOS 13 as well. Like Safari download manager, fonts, external drive support, etc. The main things iPadOS has different is widgets on home screen, multiply apps in slider, spilt view, sidecar, etc. So the previous poster was correct in saying in the future you could imagine plugging an iPhone into an external display and it being very functional is not that unreasonable.

Here’s a link to the features iOS 13 has: https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-13-preview/features/

 

[stooie3000]

Yes it can. I have a Kingston powered Nucleum USB-C hub plugged into my 12.9 iPad Pro and have a monitor connected via an HDMI cable, a thumb drive, an SD card and an external SSD all connected at the same time with full access to everything, all while using a Bluetooth mouse.

This is great news, thanks for confirming!

 

[JD2015]

 

[Still100]

I’m curious to find out whether it’s possible to do video editing of files that are still on an attached usb/hard drive? So work on them right on the portable storage.

Or do the files have to be copied to the iPad?

 

[007p]

I’m curious to find out whether it’s possible to do video editing of files that are still on an attached usb/hard drive? So work on them right on the portable storage.

Or do the files have to be copied to the iPad?

It should be possible once apps are updated. Right now, no app can access the external storage as they haven’t been built against iOS 13. Some betas may have started to come out now, but I find it unlikely.

 

[Brammy]

I forgot which thread I complained about this in, but I was wrong about not being able to force a folder and contents to download. By "pinning" the folder in iOS 13 and Catalina you can force the folder contents to download. I also tested adding a file on a different system and it downloaded fine on my iPad.

 

[CE3]

It should be possible once apps are updated. Right now, no app can access the external storage as they haven’t been built against iOS 13. Some betas may have started to come out now, but I find it unlikely.

Being able to edit video and photo from external storage would be a huge step forward for the iPad.

 

[richpjr]

Being able to edit video and photo from external storage would be a huge step forward for the iPad.

It really would. It might even allow me to switch over to using LumaFusion for most of my video editing (especially when 2.0 is released on Monday!).

 

[RevTEG]

It amuses me when people refuse to pay subscriptions. Reading forums and some of the reviews on the App Store some people get quite angry about it. But would those people be prepared to do some work for someone and when the work’s done say “No I don’t want to be paid, you can have it for free”?

What? So i should be paying the company that built my house forever? No. Now if that company comes by and shows me a new garage and I think I need it then I’ll pay for the garage. But I’m not paying a subscription to them. Certainly not to a software company. Unless of course they work hard and developed features that I want. Then I’ll willing pay once for those features. Subscriptions can (not all) make companies lazy.

 

[richpjr]

What? So i should be paying the company that built my house forever? No. Now if that company comes by and shows me a new garage and I think I need it then I’ll pay for the garage. But I’m not paying a subscription to them. Certainly not to a software company. Unless of course they work hard and developed features that I want. Then I’ll willing pay once for those features. Subscriptions can (not all) make companies lazy.

I have a couple of software subscriptions that I do not mind paying for - Office 365 family and Adobe Photography plan.

Since my wife and I both use Office for work and my 3 kids use it in school, it's an easy choice for me, especially with the 1 TB of storage per account. I have managed to get it for $60 a year for the past 3 years by picking up deals on Amazon (usually Black Friday). $1 per month per user is more than fair for what I get.

Adobe seems to be the company that I hear most of the complaints about for subscriptions. I have the Photography plan for $9.99 a month since I heavily use Lightroom and Photoshop and I am spending less now than I did on upgrades. There are alternatives, but none of them have come close to enticing me to leave. Programs like Capture One cost more if you regularly upgrade than Adobe charges me. Why convert? If some other DAM fit my workflow and didn't require an upgrade I'd look at it but I haven't seen anything yet.

 

[Brammy]

Unless of course they work hard and developed features that I want. Then I’ll willing pay once for those features. Subscriptions can (not all) make companies lazy.

There are two apps I subscribe to: Ulysses and Drafts. Each give me something for my value, and the subscription helps fund development. Both apps deliver decent updates several times a year.

However, for something like a calculator app, no, I won't pay a sub for that.

 

[richpjr]

There are two apps I subscribe to: Ulysses and Drafts. Each give me something for my value, and the subscription helps fund development. Both apps deliver decent updates several times a year.

However, for something like a calculator app, no, I won't pay a sub for that.

Funding development (and sales, and support, and the rest of a companies operations) is something not a lot of people take into consideration about software. Money has to come from somewhere, whether it is new licenses, upgrades or subscriptions. A company won't last long without collecting that money in one of those ways.

 

[Ritte]

I’m not able to mount my 2TB exFAT disk. Even tried with the iPad connected to a power source.

 

[007p]

I’m not able to mount my 2TB exFAT disk. Even tried with the iPad connected to a power source.

Did you try plugging in a second disk?

I couldn’t get it to see my 4tb exfat - but after plugging a flash drive to another USB port, it mounted both. Clearly a bug...and this workaround requires a hub with more than one port.

 

[ahostmadsen]

I forgot which thread I complained about this in, but I was wrong about not being able to force a folder and contents to download. By "pinning" the folder in iOS 13 and Catalina you can force the folder contents to download. I also tested adding a file on a different system and it downloaded fine on my iPad.

What do you mean by "pinning"?

 

[Shirasaki]

What do you mean by "pinning"?

He means this.

 

[ahostmadsen]

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He means this.

So, if I understand it right, this is a new option in iOS 13? That would mean you can make an iCloud folder available offline in iPad?

 

[Shirasaki]

So, if I understand it right, this is a new option in iOS 13? That would mean you can make an iCloud folder available offline in iPad?

Through this method, I think you are right.

 

[Brammy]

So, if I understand it right, this is a new option in iOS 13? That would mean you can make an iCloud folder available offline in iPad?

Yes. I tested this with my Pages folder and it was available offline. As a bonus, it automatically pinned new documents that folder without needing to do anything.

This also works on macOS 10.15 as well.

 

[Agent69]

From the release notes for iOS & iPadOS Beta 2:

"APFS formatted drives are now supported. (51071338)"

 

[Brammy]

I noticed with Beta 6 I can no longer Pin files and folders. Hoping it makes a speedy return.

 

[canesalato]

I noticed with Beta 6 I can no longer Pin files and folders. Hoping it makes a speedy return.

They removed the feature...probably won't be there for iOS 13.0.
Too bad, i loved it

 

[Brammy]

They removed the feature...probably won't be there for iOS 13.0.
Too bad, i loved it

This feature was one of the biggest "stop needing my laptop" features. I submitted feedback.