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ryanflanders256

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I love my 15 Pro Max. If you're experiencing issues you can reproduce, make an appointment at an Apple Store and show them what's happening.
 
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MikesGravity

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There's a very good reason for the lag though. The screen refresh lowers to 1Hz to conserve battery, but when you wae it up, it shoots up to 120Hz really fast. I'm guessing that sometimes you catch it in the middle of a refresh cycle, so it has to play "catch-up" and therefore lags or skips the animation.

Not really sure if this is fixable, or just the nature of trying to run the screen at 1Hz.
I notice lag just randomly while using, not just while making up. My 13 Pro had a 120hz screen and it was super smooth.
 

MikesGravity

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This 1000%. Summarizes all of the useless “issue” threads.
It's not buyers remorse dude. I traded in my 13 Pro and my wife's to AT&T and got the 15 Pro's for free. In fact our bill went DOWN. I want to love the 15 like I do my 13 Pro. Look at my account, I have been active since 2008, an apple user since 1998. I am not complaining to complain, the iPhone 15 Pro or maybe iOS 17 in general is a step back.
 

MikesGravity

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I have noticed software bugs. I think as more features are added and Apple is attempting to provide new features plus software support for hundreds of millions of devices there are just more bugs to work through.

I should clarify, in summary, I am very happy with my 15 Pro Max. Battery life is awesome, form factor is beautiful, it’s fast, takes great photos, and I enjoy the UI elements surrounding Dynamic Island. No overheating, no slow downs.
Yep form is great, I love the decreased weight, the screen is great, the battery on the regular 15 Pro is pretty decent as well, it's quick usually - all true. But It's a step back. MAYBE it's just iOS 17. Either way, it's just not as good of an experience as my 13 Pro was.
 
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Yep form is great, I love the decreased weight, the screen is great, the battery on the regular 15 Pro is pretty decent as well, it's quick usually - all true. But It's a step back. MAYBE it's just iOS 17. Either way, it's just not as good of an experience as my 13 Pro was.
I do agree the 13 Pro was a nearly perfect phone. I had the 13 Pro 6.1” model prior to my 15 Pro Max. It was great at everything, just missed out on some features I like-dynamic island, no always-on-display, no USB-C. If it had those features I wouldn’t have upgraded. I may upgrade again next year if some of the rumors surrounding the 16 Pro Max pan out: 4th super telephoto lens with 10x zoom, 6.9” display, capture button.
 

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It's not buyers remorse dude. I traded in my 13 Pro and my wife's to AT&T and got the 15 Pro's for free. In fact our bill went DOWN. I want to love the 15 like I do my 13 Pro. Look at my account, I have been active since 2008, an apple user since 1998. I am not complaining to complain, the iPhone 15 Pro or maybe iOS 17 in general is a step back.
iOS 17 has a lot of great features but it’s definitely been plagued with a ton of bugs. That seems to be the status quo for Apple software launches these days. They usually do a pretty good job addressing most of the bugs though.
 

mikeyteh

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No issues with my 15PM, coming from an annual upgrader. My only minor complaint might be battery life, and that's only because there was no change at all from 14 to 15, which is on me. The battery itself is fine but I always hope for a little bit longer stretch to the life and this year was the first in awhile that didn't have at least some improvement.
 
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LouisPiper

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Physically, I love almost everything about the 15 Pro Max. The natural titanium color is great, the size is great, the weight is great. I didn’t care about the smaller bezels but I noticed coming from the 14 Pro Max and they look fantastic. USB-C has already come in handy quite a few times.

The biggest issue is iOS 17. While it has lots of new features, it was a dramatic regression in battery consumption, overall smoothness, and bug count. My battery is about 6 hours screen on no matter what I do (5G, WiFi, etc). Sometimes it will fail to unlock in a timely manner and I have to lock and unlock again. Even just now I had messages freak out and overlay other messages on pictures in the same thread until I scrolled again and it sorted itself out. iOS 16 was rough until late in the cycle as well - it is systemic and it needs to be addressed. I’m all for new features but really pausing for a month and sorting everything out would be greatly beneficial. Normal people do not care about generative AI on their phone. They absolutely would care if Craig got back on stage and said “this year your battery lasts 2 hours longer, apps open faster, you have more storage space because we thinned the OS, etc.” just like he did for iOS 12. People would be ecstatic. We need a quick trip to the years of “it just works” before we head off to “Siri can write a novel for you” land.
 

nmart1214

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I’ve had zero issues with my 15 Pro Max, I’ve had the last few generations of pro iPhones and I’d say 14 pro/max is the weakest by far. I also restored the device out of the box because of iOS 17 having known issues with setup when it launched(at least known by the Apple Store).

It’s all anecdotal, just like many of the other examples that show the opposite. There’s millions of devices out there, what we see is the smallest possible sample size. Most of these devices on every generation are just fine.
 

That70sGAdawg

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Yeah I agree, it seems they all are kinda wonky until some of the first few updates. But I just feel like the 15 Pro is the most unpolished new release in a long time and it's a bummer. Hopefully it's all worked out soon.
Too many employees working from home & not collaborating in person to make software right. Even with the latest software my 15 pro doesn't register touches , freezes up (in Apple apps) and restarts overnight that I have to put in a passcode almost every morning! Ridiculous.
 

dotzero123

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I've not experienced these issues with my 15 pro. I would take it to the Apple Store, if you have one nearby, or call for tech support. They should be able to fix or replace it.
 

Howard2k

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People should stop saying "Am I the only one" when they are expressing a popular opinion, or at times even the majority opinion. Say it only when you see almost ZERO other person sharing the same opinion. But it is widely known that many people are not satisfied with the 15 Pro.

Am I the only one with an Apple product?
 

Howard2k

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Too many employees working from home & not collaborating in person to make software right. Even with the latest software my 15 pro doesn't register touches , freezes up (in Apple apps) and restarts overnight that I have to put in a passcode almost every morning! Ridiculous.


Yeah WFH is the issue for sure. It’s impossible to do any sort of remote collaboration or anything in that environment.
 

BugeyeSTI

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You are the "only one" who doesn't know that this is widely known. In fact, it is VERY widely known.

It has been in the news. On virtually all tech news, but also mainstream news like CNN, USA Today, Fox News, etc.
He's not the only one. As a matter of fact, people with your opinion are definitely the minority. iOS17 is the issue, not the hardware.. Pointing at news media as proof is an effin joke.. Media sucks the sweat from a dead mans testicles, always has..
 

JohnRckr

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I came from S23U to 15PM and I am happy, although nowadays I barely even use a phone and I got pretty much nothing installed on my 15PM. I love the display, how lighter it is, and the OS.
 

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He's not the only one. As a matter of fact, people with your opinion are definitely the minority. iOS17 is the issue, not the hardware.. Pointing at news media as proof is an effin joke.. Media sucks the sweat from a dead mans testicles, always has..
You missed the point. Referring to the news was to point out that an idea was widely known -- many people are aware of the idea. It has nothing to do with whether the idea is true or false, or whether it is nuanced enough.

For example, if someone says that "nobody" knows who the US president is, I could say that all kinds of news outlet have mentioned him, so that many people know who is president is. This has nothing to do with whether what the news says about him is accurate, or whether I support the president.

My opinion -- that many people (many can be hundreds or thousands, not necessarily the majority) are aware of problems associated with the iPhone 15 is certainly accurate. It has nothing to do with whether the problems are in fact related only to iOS 17.
 

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I'm really not liking the iPhone 15 Pro. Some of it is probably iOS 17 bugs but man, typing is still a chore, even after 17.1.1. It gets laggy and doesn't register touches always.

The audio recording automatically starts randomly in messages.

The animations get laggy.

In spotlight search some of my keys are highlighted for some reason.

I should have kept my 13 Pro - it was flawless (though I never had iOS 17 on it).

Just venting.

Had the same issues.

Returned my 15 Pro.

Went back to my 13 Pro.

Found that most of the issues (but not all) were because iOS 17 needs to call the Orkin man. Worse OS release ever.

Just really really terrible.
 
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BugeyeSTI

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You missed the point. Referring to the news was to point out that an idea was widely known -- many people are aware of the idea. It has nothing to do with whether the idea is true or false, or whether it is nuanced enough.

For example, if someone says that "nobody" knows who the US president is, I could say that all kinds of news outlet have mentioned him, so that many people know who is president is. This has nothing to do with whether what the news says about him is accurate, or whether I support the president.

My opinion -- that many people (many can be hundreds or thousands, not necessarily the majority) are aware of problems associated with the iPhone 15 is certainly accurate. It has nothing to do with whether the problems are in fact related only to iOS 17.
So by that train of thought, the 14Pro/ProMax had camera fluttering, battery performance and green tint on many displays until more than halfway through IOS16 so that phone had problems associated to it too. After software updates all seems fixed and now people consider it a good device.. Seems every new iPhone has issues and most of it is due to software that isn't optimized for the device.. Maybe if Apple offered better software at launch, more people could focus on enjoying their phone and not wondering if their issue is the next "gate"..
 
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CoffeeMacBook

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I’m on an iPhone 10 Max from 2018 and am having issues with my phone screen locking up switching apps and even the phone heating up just randomly. What stops the overheating is when I start closing apps the problem goes away. My iPhone 15 Pro is still on its way to my house, but at least for me; it seems like iOS is the issue, speaking as someone on a 2018 iPhone.
 
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