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Its WCCFTech. The same site that claimed Polaris 10 will clock up to 1650 MHz, and tie with GTX 1070, at half the price.
 
There are two Vega GPUs. RX 490 if anything will be based on Vega 11(small Vega). It can be and most likely like I have said many months ago, will be released this year. Vega 10 also can appear this year, however only for professional market.
 
Odd thing is that there is no word on Vega 11, not much at least. Will it be out in December?
It's supposed to replace Polaris 10, right?
Maybe the 4x5 refresh will be based on Vega 11.
Guess we'll have to wait.
 
Odd thing is that there is no word on Vega 11, not much at least. Will it be out in December?
It's supposed to replace Polaris 10, right?
Maybe the 4x5 refresh will be based on Vega 11.
Guess we'll have to wait.
No, It is not meant to replace Polaris 10 in mainstream market. In professional market - that is whole different story.

Let me give you a little perspective.

If AMD would base whole of their lineup only on Vega architecture they would have in consumer market only Vega 10 and 11 GPUs for highest end market with more than 7-8 TFLOPs of compute power. On the other hand, Zen APUs which are supposed to also fill mainstream market will have only 16 CU design - 1024 GCN cores.

So you would get this type of lineup. 4096 GCN cores - Vega 10. 3072 GCN cores - Vega 11. 1024 Cores - Zen APU GPU.

A bit of a hole, don't you think? ;)

For that bit is Polaris 10. However, AMD still discusses if they will offer Polaris 11 GPU, when they will be offering Zen APUs.
 
I'd be surprised if they go for a dual-Polaris card instead of Vega 10, but obviously I don't know anything. No reason to delay competing with Nvidia's high end any longer though.

Vega is the real canary in the coal mine for the Mac Pro though, so it's interesting to watch its progress. If it comes and goes, then the MP is surely dead. I doubt they'd go for Polaris, despite power envelope limitations, because even a downclocked Vega would probably be perform better than Polaris, with the new architecture.
 
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I believe Polaris was but a stop gap for Vega, and that Vega 11 will have cut down versions to replace Polaris.
I could see Vega 10 with 4096 cores, Vega 11 with 3072 and a Vega 11 dialed down to 2048 cores (Pro and XT if you will). But that's just me going wild. ;-)
When will they come? Beats me...
It would fit nicely on the nMP though.
 
Those are exactly same glitches my clients have with their MB 2016's on external monitor... and it started with OS X 10.12.1. I was guessing that it is Intel HD problem, but could be a Metal related issue now that there's this.
Wow, that is interesting.
 
So basically by using the logic of WCCFtech, Vega 10 with 4096 GCN cores, and 45% higher clock speed will be just 20% faster than Fury X.
 
Radeon Pro version is supposed to have 12 TFLOPs with 64 CU design. That means at least 1465 MHz on core. 415 MHz higher than Fury X, in the same CU design.

http://videocardz.com/63700/exclusive-first-details-about-amd-vega10-and-vega20
Vega 10 will be released in first quarter of 2017, it has 64 Compute Units and 24TF 16-bit computing power. Vega 10 is based on 14nm GFX9 architecture. It comes with 16GB of HBM2 memory with a bandwidth of 512 GB/s.
http://videocardz.com/63715/amd-vega-and-navi-roadmap
All of this was related to professional and server roadmap.

So either WCCFTech made stuff up, or they are talking about different GPU.
I am placing my bet on first idea.
 
"Supposed" is the right word, we don't know yet if 490 is based on Vega or Dual Polaris.
Don't know why, call it a gut feeling, but dual Polaris 10 seems to me more likely.
Hope not though.
 
"Supposed" is the right word, we don't know yet if 490 is based on Vega or Dual Polaris.
Don't know why, call it a gut feeling, but dual Polaris 10 seems to me more likely.
Hope not though.
Then the scores would fall in line perfectly with dual Polaris 10 GPU.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-rx-480-8gb-review,26.html
Scores for RX 480.

FireStrike Ultra: 2700 Pts.
FireStrike Extreme: 5300 pts.

Scores in WCCFtech info: 5000 pts for Ultra, 9500 for Extreme.

They fall in line too well...
 
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On the other hand... Fury X to get around 5000 PTS in 3dMark FireStrike Ultra would need to run at 1250 MHz core clock.

Declocking 4096 GCN core chip, with 225W TDP, and 1.5 GHz core clock to 125W TDP would require nerfing the GPU by around 250 MHz.

Also, the 3dMark FireStrike Ultra is very close to the one of Founders Edition GTX 1080...
 
I'm inclined to believe it will be a dual Polaris really.
Stacc, indeed the info there is not very reliable since they seem to only copy and paste from somewhere else and add some extra sauce, most of the times with no sense at all. But the rumors are coming to this.
Where did you read about the GPU for the nMP expected by May?
 
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