AMD Confirms RX 480 At $199 USD, Other APU & Polaris Announcements

[koyoot]

To all that do not believe that RX 480 can hit 1600 MHz, here is screen from Retailer:

1600 MHz core, 10000 MHz memory.

 

[h9826790]

Nvidia GPUs do not overclock well because of extremely high core clocks. What do you expect? To be possible to clock them at 2.5-3 GHz? Not on this process...

I am not making overclocking potential of RX480 as assumptions, but already are the AIB GPUs with such high clocks listed in number of shops all over the world.

And yes, all of AIB cards have either 6+6 or 6+8 pin connectors. Only reference model has 1266 MHz core clocks and single 6 pin connector. And those with 6 pin connectors will always be limited to 1400 MHz max. Those with 6+8 pin can go right up to 1700 MHz. Highest so far I have seen is Asus Strix model with 1622 MHz and 10000 MHz on memory.

P.S. There is also very good reason on the silicon why the Nvidia GPUs do not clock high enough, and are not able to maintain high clocks for longer periods of time. I will shut myself up here to not again be called AMD fanboy, despite the fact that over the technological internet there is MASSIVE article about problems with Nvidia consumer 16 nm GPUs.

But hey, it will be also quite loud 1.5 years later, when they will fall on a massive scale.

Hopefully the RX480 will do well in high clock speed. In the past, AMD GPU not working well at high clock (low power efficiency), they can do it, but just very energy ineffective.

 

[throAU]

Wonder if Apple will stick one of these in the new iMac? Finally an all in one with half decent GPU...

 

[Squuiid]

Wonder if Apple will stick one of these in the new iMac? Finally an all in one with half decent GPU...

Looks like they're going with the 460 instead it would seem, judging by the Baffin drivers in Sierra.

 

[koyoot]

Or that there is enough room for adding another GPU deviceID's in future to the system.

 

[Fl0r!an]

While I'd love all those rumors and leaked Benchmarks to be true, I can't imagine why AMD would understate the performance so dramatically. If this card is actually (almost) as fast as a GTX 1070 for just half the money, I'd advertise it exactly like that (instead of: Two of them can compete with a single 1080).

 

[AidenShaw]

To all that do not believe that RX 480 can hit 1600 MHz, here is screen from Retailer:

1600 MHz core, 10000 MHz memory.

Good job at finding that typo...

https://skinflint.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-21260-00-20g-a1450841.html

Chip: Ellesmere XT (GCN 4.0) • Chip clock: 1120MHz, Boost: 1266MHz • Memory: 8GB GDDR5, 2000MHz, 256bit, 256GB/s

 

[ManuelGomes]

Yeah, we're getting too excited about this.
Let's wait a few more days and find out.
I really hope, for AMD's sake, that they have a winner here.
And that it comes inside the nMP.

 

[lowendlinux]

29 June

I'll be tuned into Phoronix

 

[throAU]

29 June

I'll be tuned into Phoronix

I'll be waiting for Anandtech. Reading phoronix makes my brain hurt, with the level of trolling, user brain damage and page clicks per article that could be summed up on one page....

 

[lowendlinux]

I'll be waiting for Anandtech. Reading phoronix makes my brain hurt, with the level of trolling, user brain damage and page clicks per article that could be summed up on one page....

He'll be the only one to fully test on Linux with more than one kernel and both driver options..

Yes Mr. Larabel is no lover of AMD but then again AMD always under performs..

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

Compute performance. A mixed bag that is sometimes higher sometimes lower than a GTX980

 

[Asgorath]

Compute performance. A mixed bag that is sometimes higher sometimes lower than a GTX980

Not surprising, given that it's really hard (bordering on impossible) to have a single OpenCL program that runs efficiently on both AMD and NVIDIA, given their vastly different compute architectures.

 

[koyoot]

 

[AidenShaw]

Compute performance. A mixed bag that is sometimes higher sometimes lower than a GTX980

If all it can do after all this hype is be more-or-less the same as Nvidia's last generation upper-midrange card - maybe ATI should extend the NDA timeout to 2020, not 29 June.

Can't wait for the apologists to spin this one into an ATI win.

And can't wait for the ATI marketing - "We're slow, but we're cheaper and use a bit less power."

 

[Stacc]

If all it can do after all this hype is be more-or-less the same as Nvidia's last generation upper-midrange card - maybe ATI should extend the NDA timeout to 2020, not 29 June.

Can't wait for the apologists to spin this one into an ATI win.

And can't wait for the ATI marketing - "We're slow, but we're cheaper and use a bit less power."

It's pretty clear that amd is and always has been targeting this as a mid range card. It makes sense for them considering this is going straight into upcoming consoles. Any enthusiasts hoping this will beat out nvidias 1070 or 1080 looks like it's not going to happen and will be waiting for vega. Maybe highly over clocked versions of the RX 480 will be in the same ballpark as the 1070 but it looks like amd will be playing the value card this round.

 

[pat500000]

Wonder if Apple will stick one of these in the new iMac? Finally an all in one with half decent GPU...

That's possible.

 

[AidenShaw]

Maybe highly over clocked versions of the RX 480 will be in the same ballpark as the 1070 but it looks like amd will be playing the value card this round.

I'm not sure that the "value card" actually has much value.

The embedded and integrated systems have taken over the low to mid-range space.

People looking at discreet PCIe GPUs aren't looking for IGPU performance - they want more.

If ATI's pitch is "a bit better than an IGPU but costs more" they'll have a hard sell.

Maybe it will make sense when ATI sells the Radeon business and closes everything else.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

If all it can do after all this hype is be more-or-less the same as Nvidia's last generation upper-midrange card - maybe ATI should extend the NDA timeout to 2020, not 29 June.

Can't wait for the apologists to spin this one into an ATI win.

And can't wait for the ATI marketing - "We're slow, but we're cheaper and use a bit less power."

That's an over reaction. The 480 still costs almost half the price of what a GTX980 still costs today and the 970 is still the best selling card. So this I going to be good business for AMD.

 

[Stacc]

I'm not sure that the "value card" actually has much value.

The embedded and integrated systems have taken over the low to mid-range space.

People looking at discreet PCIe GPUs aren't looking for IGPU performance - they want more.

If ATI's pitch is "a bit better than an IGPU but costs more" they'll have a hard sell.

Maybe it will make sense when ATI sells the Radeon business and closes everything else.

The RX 480 significantly outclasses anything Intel sells. Not to mention amd will be more or less first to market since we haven't seen the quad core plus iris skylake chips hit the market in any sort of volume. The RX 480 fits right underneath the gtx 1070 in both price and performance and may be a card that sells very well like the gtx 970 did for nvidia.

 

[koyoot]

I will put one thing into perspective: R9 290X in mining Ethereum gets 22.7 MH value. R9 480 gets 24 MHz. So it already has higher compute performance.

SoyCapitan: Don't take seriously that benchmark. It never reflects real world performance especially in OpenCL and CUDA.

The only drawbacks I see in this GPU are: 256 Bit memory bus, too narrow for 4K titles, and this is the same problem that affects GTX 1080 and 1070, and 32 ROPs also too small amount. On the other hand performance of this GPU is not on 32 ROPs level, when considered graphical performance.

 

[ManuelGomes]

Mem compression might help a bit there...
I guess the days of 512 bit wide and even 384 are long gone. Or maybe not.
Coming massive HBM2 designs we get back to wide

 

[Draeconis]

Mem compression might help a bit there...
I guess the days of 512 bit wide and even 384 are long gone. Or maybe not.
Coming massive HBM2 designs we get back to wide

With memory compression.. gonna be interesting.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

Mem compression might help a bit there...
I guess the days of 512 bit wide and even 384 are long gone. Or maybe not.
Coming massive HBM2 designs we get back to wide

Only Nvidia is using compression. They are currently on Delta Compression version 4.0 in the Windows drivers. We don't even know if the Mac web driver has version 1.0.

 

[thirrouard]

Hey guys ! I have a RX 480 in hand, tried on my Mac Pro 4,1 (patched 5,1), and the good news is that is starts and don’t give KP, it’s a good start. But bad news is that the fan were spinning super fast and 3D acceleration wasn’t working.
Card was recognized at “AMD Radeon R9 xxx 8192 MB”.
Maybe that’s where the problem is ? Didn’t recognize it was RX but recognized R9 ?
Unless AMD decided to change the name of the Polaris 10 cards, because I saw some places were also thinking the name would be R9 something

Anyway, 10.12 is in early beta still, and card isn’t released yet, so that’s why I said it’s a good sign… we might have working driver when 10.12 comes !



NB : photo is of the card is the one I shot