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AMD Confirms RX 480 At $199 USD, Other APU & Polaris Announcements
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I'm sorry as soon as I see WCCFTech, I kind of skim and don't read. My apologies. I stand corrected.
They've had silicon since at least late last year (perhaps earlier). The chip has been in development for years. Isn't it a little strange that they're claiming the drivers are still not done yet? Why was NVIDIA able to release a new generation of chips with a new shader architecture (Pascal) with excellent performance on day one? I guess we'll wait and see if they've been able to fix this in the last month for the RX Vega launch, but I have my doubts. Also, why would anyone spend $600-1000+ on an RX Vega only to have terrible performance out of the box, with some glimmer of hope that AMD will be able to improve the drivers over the next 6-12 months to the point where it's competitive with the now 2-year old Pascal architecture, just in time for NVIDIA to refresh it with Volta?
Fake news.
Maybe you have mistaken me with somebody else, but I have looked at this very thread in search of posts from April with Koyoot and WTFTech in it, and I cannot find a single one.
I am not posting WTFTech rubbish here from very long time. Whats more, what you have linked, has not been posted in this thread, you are making stuff up, and then blame everybody else for creating your own hype, yourself.
And once more. DO NOT REPOST WTFTECH's RUBBISH ON THIS FORUM! In any case. Its harmful for any thread.
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The W site isn't 'fake news' but they are very clickbaity. But I don't know a tech site that isn't.
The "Fake News" was about accusing me of posting WTFTech's Rubbish on this forum. I have even checked my history in web browsers. Over past 3 months I have checked WTFTech 4 times. Every time i stopped on front page.
How about this link, then?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-ama,5018.html
That's the actual AMA with the AMD guy on Tom's Hardware. You've posted so many links that it's hard to keep track of them all, not sure why you're being so defensive about it. Or are you in violent agreement with me that Vega will struggle to compete with NVIDIA?
Edit: For reference, I found the first link by searching for a Vega vs 1080 Ti comparison, but there were plenty of others as well.
There is nothing there that compares performance of Vega to GTX 1080 Ti.
The only mention I think was on Reddit AMA, and the Rep have said that the performance of Vega appears to be pretty nice.
It was later spun by "hype boys" that it is nice compared to GTX 1080 Ti, and created hype this way. You are affected by this as well.
Its funny that today it was blatantly pointed out on another forum.
AMD about Vega FE: This is not gaming card, wait for RX Vega if you want to game on it.
Consumers after seeing reviews of Vega FE: AMD FAILED! They overpromised and not delivered. Faildozer, again!
P.S. Actually thank you for this link. Woligroski actually confirmed, by declining to comment, that HBM2 APUs are coming to mainstream.
And that is what I am most excited about...
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http://www.tomshardware.de/vega-ben...ngsaufnahme-gaming,testberichte-242375-6.html
Here Vega does pretty well agains Quadro P6000.
Here Vega does pretty well agains Quadro P6000.
Everybody here are complaining how Vega FE is let down in games barely competing with GTX 1080, in current state of software.
Where professional benchmarks show that GPU is faster, or on par or slightly slower than Titan Xp.
Like I have said previously. This is the only forum that judges GPU professional usefulness based on gaming benchmarks.
I want to get the Mantiz to try my 580 with High Sierra
@Mantiz_John could you please let me know what your is warranty for Europeans? I can't find detail on the website. What happens if the Venus breaks?
@Mantiz_John could you please let me know what your is warranty for Europeans? I can't find detail on the website. What happens if the Venus breaks?
Why would anyone pay $1000 to be on the "frontier" of AMD's unfinished technology?
All of the "professional" apps you have been citing are mostly windows only. Lets try and figure out some analogues for macOS performance and tasks that Apple likes to market its machines towards.
Is VR content creation a professional workload? Apple certainly thinks so. They demoed it onstage almost immediately after announcing the Vega based iMac Pro. VR happens to be a workload almost identical to gaming. So its fair to judge Vega based on its "gaming" (i.e. graphics) performance.
The closest analogue we have to macOS Metal performance is probably windows Vulkan performance, where Vega is worse than a GTX 1080.
What about video encoding? Apple loves to advertise its machines for video editors. Vega does worse here too.
Efficiency is also a big disappointment. Vega FE is a 275 W card, being beaten in graphics workloads by a 185 W GTX 1080 and video encoding by a 250 W Titan XP.
Very often people on this forum accuse me for cherry picking benchmarks.
If you would be completely honest you would post also that in Video Encoding Vega is affected by bug which was apparent in blender for very long time, and affected stability and performance.
https://twitter.com/themikepan/status/881339581525762048
https://developer.blender.org/rBeb293f59f2eb9847b8fd593ac2dde2781ac8ace1
That is first thing. If you would be honest, You would actually show the power consumption of Titan X which is actually 267W under load, and said that only Reference GTX 1080 is 185W TDP GPU, and every other non-reference model is actually 215W GPU. If you would be totally honest you would also point out that non-reference model of GTX 1080 Ti are consuming 318W under load.
But obviously it is AMD which is inefficient one.
Its not one GPU. Most of GTX 1080 Ti's are inefficient, and not faster than Vega FE in compute scenarios. The only Nvidia Pascal GPUs that are efficient, are reference models. Oh, and phenomenal on this front GTX 1050 Ti, which is efficient regardless of the model.
VR content creation has very little to do with gaming performance. Overall content creation has little to do with gaming performance.
For example: 3dsMax performance of Vega FE, without signed professional drivers, compared to full Quadro P6000, with signed, professional drivers:
What we would see here if Vega would have signed, professional drivers? What we would see here if Vega would have proper BIOS, and drivers?
I am not going to bother to derail this thread further. The only place where Nvidia has clear win is gaming.
And that is why I have said: professionals on this forum base GPUs usefulness for compute only based on gaming benchmarks.
Very often people on this forum accuse me for cherry picking benchmarks.
If you would be completely honest you would post also that in Video Encoding Vega is affected by bug which was apparent in blender for very long time, and affected stability and performance.
https://twitter.com/themikepan/status/881339581525762048
https://developer.blender.org/rBeb293f59f2eb9847b8fd593ac2dde2781ac8ace1
That is first thing. If you would be honest, You would actually show the power consumption of Titan X which is actually 267W under load, and said that only Reference GTX 1080 is 185W TDP GPU, and every other non-reference model is actually 215W GPU. If you would be totally honest you would also point out that non-reference model of GTX 1080 Ti are consuming 318W under load.
But obviously it is AMD which is inefficient one.
Its not one GPU. Most of GTX 1080 Ti's are inefficient, and not faster than Vega FE in compute scenarios. The only Nvidia Pascal GPUs that are efficient, are reference models. Oh, and phenomenal on this front GTX 1050 Ti, which is efficient regardless of the model.
VR content creation has very little to do with gaming performance. Overall content creation has little to do with gaming performance.
For example: 3dsMax performance of Vega FE, without signed professional drivers, compared to full Quadro P6000, with signed, professional drivers:
What we would see here if Vega would have signed, professional drivers? What we would see here if Vega would have proper BIOS, and drivers?
I am not going to bother to derail this thread further. The only place where Nvidia has clear win is gaming.
And that is why I have said: professionals on this forum base GPUs usefulness for compute only based on gaming benchmarks.
None of those charts include Vega FE. Here is some "honesty"
Vega FE is about 25 W higher than 1080 Ti and 100 W higher than GTX 1080.
Looks like AMD was demoing Vega RX today at some sort of event in Budapest. It seems they are advertising Vega and a freesync monitor perform the same as a GTX 1080 and GSync monitor for $300 less. Thats a weak argument given that Gsync monitors seem to go for $100-$200 more than freesync monitors.
Maybe its just me, but AMD has not been hyping this nearly as much as they did with Ryzen. Probably not a good sign for how it will stack up gaming wise. Obviously this is all subjective, but it should only be a couple more weeks until they announce consumer/gaming Vega.
Maybe its just me, but AMD has not been hyping this nearly as much as they did with Ryzen. Probably not a good sign for how it will stack up gaming wise. Obviously this is all subjective, but it should only be a couple more weeks until they announce consumer/gaming Vega.