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They also didn't promise 1070 and 1080 performance either. They hype machine called the internet did that.
Are we bitter?
Why do some people just pop up to attack specific comments from others?
I don't seem to recall any specific delivery date for Ryzen, or Vega for that matter, from AMD.
Even no specific details have been released so far, so what gives?
[doublepost=1483871497][/doublepost]All Ryzen models being unlocked and overclocking ready will put some pressure on Intel.
And an OC'er dream I guess. Not on that team anymore but it' good to know.
Why do some people just pop up to attack specific comments from others?
I don't seem to recall any specific delivery date for Ryzen, or Vega for that matter, from AMD.
Even no specific details have been released so far, so what gives?
[doublepost=1483871497][/doublepost]All Ryzen models being unlocked and overclocking ready will put some pressure on Intel.
And an OC'er dream I guess. Not on that team anymore but it' good to know.
Yes, it has been confirmed. CPC magazine stated that THEY have tested this internally with the A2 ES they got, and they stated it in an blog note.
Why it matters? Because the stepping was early one. What you do not know about Zen is that it will OC itself to infinity while it stays within thermal envelope. So depending on temperature, and your cooling solution quality, the better it is, the higher core clocks you will achieve. 4.6 GHz is easy with F4 stepping on ALL cores, and that is extremely close to 5 GHz mark, don't you think?
Confirmed lifespan of Ryzen to be 4 years:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3155...hitecture-is-expected-to-last-four-years.html
Some will say it's too long I guess.
Intel might have to make their cycles longer also I believe.
Unless they're really ditching x86 altogether with a new arch that will allow them to innovate more often.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3155...hitecture-is-expected-to-last-four-years.html
Some will say it's too long I guess.
Intel might have to make their cycles longer also I believe.
Unless they're really ditching x86 altogether with a new arch that will allow them to innovate more often.
AMD could have made Ryzen a whole new arch, free of x86 legacy stuff.
Still, it would have to be beefier for the emulation required at the time being.
Still, it would have to be beefier for the emulation required at the time being.
ARM now confirmed to be open for x86 support for everyone.
I could see ARM doing stronger cores for the desktop machines in he long run and give Intel a hard time.
This might be one of the reasons Intel wants to do away with x86 in the near future.
Will next gen Ryzen be based on ARM?
I could see ARM doing stronger cores for the desktop machines in he long run and give Intel a hard time.
This might be one of the reasons Intel wants to do away with x86 in the near future.
Will next gen Ryzen be based on ARM?
Few new information on current state of ES of Ryzen. 8C/16T F4 stepping with 3.6 GHz/4.0 GHz clocks draws slightly more than 95W of power, with 8% higher voltage than final silicon will have.
Secondly, AMD started shipping 8C/8T CPUs with B1 stepping, however we may not see them until Q2 2017.
Thirdly, 3.4 GHz/3.7 6C/12T CPU currently is 65W TDP CPU
. Its engineering sample, so it has higher voltage than final silicon.
Fourthly, IPC increase over Excavator is not 40% but... 55% according to some sources.
Forgot about fifth: Q1 mid to late, that is shipping date for Ryzen on shelves. Nothing too specific, there is just a timespan. There will be hard launch with number of CPUs in the stack on the shelves. From 4C/8T to 8C/16T.
Sixth. Just MSI alone created 20(!) AM4 motherboards, just for Ryzen. Pricing will be extremely interesting for the CPUs.
Secondly, AMD started shipping 8C/8T CPUs with B1 stepping, however we may not see them until Q2 2017.
Thirdly, 3.4 GHz/3.7 6C/12T CPU currently is 65W TDP CPU
. Its engineering sample, so it has higher voltage than final silicon.Fourthly, IPC increase over Excavator is not 40% but... 55% according to some sources.
Forgot about fifth: Q1 mid to late, that is shipping date for Ryzen on shelves. Nothing too specific, there is just a timespan. There will be hard launch with number of CPUs in the stack on the shelves. From 4C/8T to 8C/16T.
Sixth. Just MSI alone created 20(!) AM4 motherboards, just for Ryzen. Pricing will be extremely interesting for the CPUs.
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http://videocardz.com/65571/amd-ryzen-to-launch-at-gdc2017
Possible time of launch of Ryzen: GDC 2017.
Possible time of launch of Ryzen: GDC 2017.
But, but, but Macs aren't for gaming.
Do Mac users even know what GDC is?
If Zen/Pinto is the Jaybus platform to save absurdly expensive, geriatric Macs
wouldn't an Apple love fest with endless wooing make more sense,
where Phil the Shill could have an on stage epiphany?
"It's the greatest, most courageous computer we've ever made."
I wonder how long after launch the ship sails, I mean ships?
4Q'17, 1Q'18?
Hopefully we aren't hoodwinked with more innovative and profound roadmaps.
Do Mac users even know what GDC is?
If Zen/Pinto is the Jaybus platform to save absurdly expensive, geriatric Macs
wouldn't an Apple love fest with endless wooing make more sense,
where Phil the Shill could have an on stage epiphany?
"It's the greatest, most courageous computer we've ever made."
I wonder how long after launch the ship sails, I mean ships?
4Q'17, 1Q'18?
Hopefully we aren't hoodwinked with more innovative and profound roadmaps.
Few new information on current state of ES of Ryzen. 8C/16T F4 stepping with 3.6 GHz/4.0 GHz clocks draws slightly more than 95W of power, with 8% higher voltage than final silicon will have.
Secondly, AMD started shipping 8C/8T CPUs with B1 stepping, however we may not see them until Q2 2017.
Thirdly, 3.4 GHz/3.7 6C/12T CPU currently is 65W TDP CPU
Fourthly, IPC increase over Excavator is not 40% but... 55% according to some sources.
Forgot about fifth: Q1 mid to late, that is shipping date for Ryzen on shelves. Nothing too specific, there is just a timespan. There will be hard launch with number of CPUs in the stack on the shelves. From 4C/8T to 8C/16T.
Sixth. Just MSI alone created 20(!) AM4 motherboards, just for Ryzen. Pricing will be extremely interesting for the CPUs.
any idea what AMD's naples will be like? It'll be interesting to see how AMD can match up with the Skylake EPs Iirc the ryzen they showed off was competing with a broadwell E 8 core.
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Don't expect Skylake level of performance clock-for clock. Zeppelin cores are slightly than faster Broadwell uArch. cores.
Only thing I can tell you at this point about Naples is that server chips are expected in Q2/H2 2017. I will monitor what happens but the amount of rumors, let alone data is nowhere near the amount we have about Ryzen consumer chips.
Only thing I can tell you at this point about Naples is that server chips are expected in Q2/H2 2017. I will monitor what happens but the amount of rumors, let alone data is nowhere near the amount we have about Ryzen consumer chips.
Dual socket, you mean? There is not enough data about server chips at this moment to draw any sort of conclusions
. You can be right, tho.yes, but not only dual. Quad... which is even more remote of course.
I see no info on inter-CPU links, probably AMD's fabric.
I see no info on inter-CPU links, probably AMD's fabric.
That is the magic number of PCIe + 2x 6-pin.I read that the Vega 10 graphics card will use up to 225W.
Is that not the exact magic number of the cMP?
http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-naples-server-cpu-vega-gpu-platform/
"Ask and it is given..."
128 PCIe lanes. If this 32 core/64 Thread chip is made from four 8 core CPUs connected together with MCM's(which appears to be the case) 8C/16T CPU should have dual channel memory controller, and 32 PCIe lanes.