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koyoot said:
Yup. Here in Poland they cost 259 PLN(60E).
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It is weird that it seems cheapest in Sweden. That would be already below MSRP + VAT.

The conversion looks wrong. It should be $73.

UPDATE: They fixed it and added the converted prices without VAT.

Well, they removed the full converted price column.
 
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There are shady 200GE vs Pentium youtube videos that do not make it obvious that they are using a graphics card (even 1060).
 
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Let's see if 220GE and 240GE bring more CUs.

For me, AMD is more competing against itself than against Pentium.
 
I think that the 220GE would need 5 CUs to beat the A10-9700 and the 240GE would need 6 CUs to beat the A12-9800.
 
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Looking at the 2200GE, the 220GE and 240GE could also be 35W parts.

As it would be indicated by the E.
 
It seems the main point of Vega 11 with respect to 8 is that you can play some games in 4K.

I think Vega 11 should have about the same power as RX 460, but is memory bottlenecked.

Vega 8 should be about as powerful as RX 550 but gets beaten.

Vega 6 should be about as powerful as RX 540, but will likely lose.
 
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cube said:
It seems the main point of Vega 11 with respect to 8 is that you can play some games in 4K.

I think Vega 11 should have about the same power as RX 460, but is memory bottlenecked.

Vega 8 should be about as powerful as RX 550 but gets beaten.
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Vega 11 for some reason is actually consuming less than RX 460. Ryzen 5 2400G is actually as fast as Ryzen 5 1400+ RX550 combo but is using less power.
 
koyoot said:
Vega 11 for some reason is actually consuming less than RX 460. Ryzen 5 2400G is actually as fast as Ryzen 5 1400+ RX550 combo but is using less power.
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Well, Vega 11 is not actually giving you RX 460 level performance.

Getting less than RX550 performance with 2200G for only 15 euro more than Ryzen 1200 actually looks very good.


 
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It seems the AM4 Zen+ maximum frequency with 4 sticks of single ranked RAM is 3333MHz.

There are still no Zen+ APUs, so in this case it seems the maximum is 2933MHz.

You can reach higher speeds with 2 sticks.
 
The amount of reserved memory for the iGPU has very little impact. It is not a limit, the system can allocate as much as needed.

 
cube said:
The amount of reserved memory for the iGPU has very little impact. It is not a limit, the system can allocate as much as needed.

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Obviously. Raven Ridge has system RAM as graphics memory. It will mean that no matter what you will do, the frame buffer will be limited to its speed.



In case of AMD Rome this is a video to watch:
 
koyoot said:
Obviously. Raven Ridge has system RAM as graphics memory. It will mean that no matter what you will do, the frame buffer will be limited to its speed.
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Yes, but the point is that you don't really need to lock 2GiB RAM to the video card.

What you're saying is that DDR5 (not G) and cheap HBM are really needed. Maybe this explains the Vega strategy.
 
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