AMD Discussion

[cube]

Not enough faulty dies to make 2900X?

I don't care what the 1900X and Kaby Lake-X haters say.

 

[koyoot]

At this point there is no business point in offering 2900X on TR4 platform.

Why? Because 2920X will be dirt cheap to buy.

 

[cube]

At this point there is no business point in offering 2900X on TR4 platform.

Why? Because 2920X will be dirt cheap to buy.

2920X is not cheap.

1900X has reached an acceptable price some time ago. The problem is that there are no $200 motherboards.

 

[koyoot]

Nobody spooked about the matter that Rome will come both as 48 core and 64 core CPUs?

What is then the design of Matisse CPU, which makes SP4 and TR4 socket CPUs?

 

[cube]

Just in case people did not know this even before the start: WX is not SMP (P, not T).

 

[cube]

Intel said it will support VESA Adaptive Sync in future GPUs.

I would say they got triggered by APU passthrough (the new reason for TR4 APUs).

 

[cube]

GF stops 7nm development. It would cost 2-4 billion and the demand is not there. They might sell their two EUV machines.

Focus will be on 22FDX, 2.5D, 3D. 12FDX would be a thing in about three years.

 

[cube]

Athlon 200GE

 

[cube]

AMD will launch the Athlon 220GE and 240GE during Q4.

I hope this means 8 and 11 CUs respectively.

 

[cube]

Maybe the numbers do not map so well and it means at most 6 and 8 CUs.

It would make choices more straightforward.

They would also insert cleanly into the mobile product line.

With 2 cores and 11 CUs, a desktop part would probably have to cost $99 (more than Pentium Gold).

 

[koyoot]

Athlons are based on Banded Kestrel design. 2C/4T, 3 CU.

 

[cube]

I imagine if the higher models have not been announced yet, it will not just be a clock difference.

Halving the 4 core mobile parts would suggest 4 and 5 CUs for the new SKUs. It would play nicely as $10 per additional CU.

 

[koyoot]

I imagine if the higher models have not been announced yet, it will not just be a clock difference.

Halving the 4 core mobile parts would suggest 4 and 5 CUs for the new SKUs. It would play nicely as $10 per additional CU.

Compare the design to the specs of Athlon APU. 3 CU's is the top model.

There is a good reason why AMD is doing this SKU segmentation. Just wait for it.

 

[cube]

Are you telling me that Ryzen APU becomes Athlon? Or rather, just the locked versions?

 

[koyoot]

Are you telling me that Ryzen APU becomes Athlon? Or rather, just the locked versions?

Picasso, and Raven Ridge 2 lately leaked in Linux Drivers.

Both use Vega architecture. It means both are 14/12 nm designs, but separate platforms. Raven Ridge 2 is just 12 nm shrink of 14 nm Raven Ridge. What is Picasso then?

About AMD Rome, here you guys have confirmation what have I mentioned here:

Nobody spooked about the matter that Rome will come both as 48 core and 64 core CPUs?

What is then the design of Matisse CPU, which makes SP4 and TR4 socket CPUs?

The answer is that Rome is 64 core CPU, made from 9 dies: 8 CPU dies, with one I/O die.

Adored did great video on the matter.

 

[cube]

I saw someone questioning why AMD would need to make parts that are just a bit better than the 200GE when it would outperform any Pentium.

 

[cube]

It seems that there's a shortage of Intel CPUs and their prices are increasing. :facepalm

 

[koyoot]

In my country CHEAPEST Core i5-8400 is 280$. And I live in EU country, with very "normal" prices.

 

[cube]

The problem would seem localized.

 

[koyoot]

It isn't localized. The shortage is and will be global, because right now Intel has everything to manufacture on 14 nm process. Mobile, desktop, server, workstation CPUs, All of the chipsets. B360, H370, Z370, and Z390. Intel will outsource manufacturing of their own H310 chipset, and possibly other chipsets as well.

 

[cube]

I understand they denied that they will outsource manufacturing.

It seems to me that the main problem is that they moved to 10nm too quickly. I think they were bringing some fab back.

 

[cube]

I think the Intel hexacore mobile CPUs better be given priority.

And AVX-512 CPUs.

 

[cube]

 

[koyoot]

There supposedly is Rome leak, with Cinebench R15 perfomance, of over 12000 pts.

 

[cube]

There had been a supposed 2990WX leak of around 6300 when it actually does 5000.