Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

AMD Discussion

C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
Not enough faulty dies to make 2900X?

I don't care what the 1900X and Kaby Lake-X haters say.
 
koyoot

koyoot

macrumors 603
Original poster
Jun 5, 2012
5,939
1,853
At this point there is no business point in offering 2900X on TR4 platform.

Why? Because 2920X will be dirt cheap to buy.
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
koyoot said:
At this point there is no business point in offering 2900X on TR4 platform.

Why? Because 2920X will be dirt cheap to buy.
Click to expand...
2920X is not cheap.

1900X has reached an acceptable price some time ago. The problem is that there are no $200 motherboards.
 
koyoot

koyoot

macrumors 603
Original poster
Jun 5, 2012
5,939
1,853
Nobody spooked about the matter that Rome will come both as 48 core and 64 core CPUs?

What is then the design of Matisse CPU, which makes SP4 and TR4 socket CPUs? ;)
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
Just in case people did not know this even before the start: WX is not SMP (P, not T).
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
Intel said it will support VESA Adaptive Sync in future GPUs.

I would say they got triggered by APU passthrough (the new reason for TR4 APUs).
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
GF stops 7nm development. It would cost 2-4 billion and the demand is not there. They might sell their two EUV machines.

Focus will be on 22FDX, 2.5D, 3D. 12FDX would be a thing in about three years.
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
AMD will launch the Athlon 220GE and 240GE during Q4.

I hope this means 8 and 11 CUs respectively.
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
Maybe the numbers do not map so well and it means at most 6 and 8 CUs.

It would make choices more straightforward.

They would also insert cleanly into the mobile product line.

With 2 cores and 11 CUs, a desktop part would probably have to cost $99 (more than Pentium Gold).
 
Last edited:
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
I imagine if the higher models have not been announced yet, it will not just be a clock difference.

Halving the 4 core mobile parts would suggest 4 and 5 CUs for the new SKUs. It would play nicely as $10 per additional CU.
 
Last edited:
koyoot

koyoot

macrumors 603
Original poster
Jun 5, 2012
5,939
1,853
cube said:
I imagine if the higher models have not been announced yet, it will not just be a clock difference.

Halving the 4 core mobile parts would suggest 4 and 5 CUs for the new SKUs. It would play nicely as $10 per additional CU.
Click to expand...
AMD-Data-Center-Presentation-2_VC.jpg


Compare the design to the specs of Athlon APU. 3 CU's is the top model.

There is a good reason why AMD is doing this SKU segmentation. Just wait for it.
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
Are you telling me that Ryzen APU becomes Athlon? Or rather, just the locked versions?
 
Last edited:
koyoot

koyoot

macrumors 603
Original poster
Jun 5, 2012
5,939
1,853
cube said:
Are you telling me that Ryzen APU becomes Athlon? Or rather, just the locked versions?
Click to expand...
Picasso, and Raven Ridge 2 lately leaked in Linux Drivers.

Both use Vega architecture. It means both are 14/12 nm designs, but separate platforms. Raven Ridge 2 is just 12 nm shrink of 14 nm Raven Ridge. What is Picasso then? ;)

About AMD Rome, here you guys have confirmation what have I mentioned here:
koyoot said:
Nobody spooked about the matter that Rome will come both as 48 core and 64 core CPUs?

What is then the design of Matisse CPU, which makes SP4 and TR4 socket CPUs? ;)
Click to expand...
The answer is that Rome is 64 core CPU, made from 9 dies: 8 CPU dies, with one I/O die.
Adored did great video on the matter.
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
I saw someone questioning why AMD would need to make parts that are just a bit better than the 200GE when it would outperform any Pentium.
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
It seems that there's a shortage of Intel CPUs and their prices are increasing. :facepalm
 
koyoot

koyoot

macrumors 603
Original poster
Jun 5, 2012
5,939
1,853
In my country CHEAPEST Core i5-8400 is 280$. And I live in EU country, with very "normal" prices.
 
koyoot

koyoot

macrumors 603
Original poster
Jun 5, 2012
5,939
1,853
It isn't localized. The shortage is and will be global, because right now Intel has everything to manufacture on 14 nm process. Mobile, desktop, server, workstation CPUs, All of the chipsets. B360, H370, Z370, and Z390. Intel will outsource manufacturing of their own H310 chipset, and possibly other chipsets as well.
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
I understand they denied that they will outsource manufacturing.

It seems to me that the main problem is that they moved to 10nm too quickly. I think they were bringing some fab back.
 
C

cube

Suspended
May 10, 2004
17,011
4,973
I think the Intel hexacore mobile CPUs better be given priority.

And AVX-512 CPUs.
 
Last edited:
koyoot

koyoot

macrumors 603
Original poster
Jun 5, 2012
5,939
1,853
There supposedly is Rome leak, with Cinebench R15 perfomance, of over 12000 pts.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom