Cook has been around since the 90s and without him Jobs would have achieved much less. This has been Tim Cook's Apple for many years. Don't listen to stupid people on the internet who don't know Apple history.
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Cook has been around since the 90s and without him Jobs would have achieved much less. This has been Tim Cook's Apple for many years. Don't listen to stupid people on the internet who don't know Apple history.
I believe so. In fact, I don't recommend any GPU with more than 8gb video RAM due to the slow PCIe 2.0 port in the old Mac Pro.
Edit: This is kind of misleading. You will still get benefit from 16GB. PCIE 2.0 might potentially bottleneck only in some application. That's why I don't recommend Vega 7. But if you already have it, just enjoy it.
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ONLY way, no. External PSU is another option. Also PCIe expansion boxes, but likely cost prohibitive for most people. Saw one report of someone looking to use one of the newer beefy eGPU boxes as a PCIe expander, but have not seen an update posted recently.
FWIW, VRAM has no direct impact on power requirements. Look at the GPU's specs from manufacturer directly, what power they require and go from there. Some manufacturers modify from the "reference" design and require more power than MP can typically deliver. Anything more than dual mini 6-pin to standard 8-pin needs modification in some form, the vast majority of the time.
I have been using Apple products for 19 years - he was a supply chain guru i.e. a bean counter - and it shows in what Apple has released over the past decade.
This is the guy who gets the stuff made and makes sure the supply chain is efficient and profitable. That supply chain guru is a one in a million. To find someone that adept is extremely difficult. A person like that has to eat, sleep, walk, and think about the business 8 days a week. You can't employ some random bean counter to do this.
You are correct here. However, mentioned beancounter can only become active once a product is developed; a product that hopefully is in such high demand that you barely manage to manufacture enough of it. Perhaps a novel product. An innovative product. A well thought through product. In short, a product that people really, really want and don't hesitate to buy because its so great.
This is why Mr. Cook was very much the perfect Lieutenant for Steve Jobs. Jobs was a product development guy; he wanted the insanely new, the insanely great, but did not care so much about how to manufacture those things efficiently. Mr. Cook took that burden from Steve Jobs.
And here is the thing: There is no Steve Jobs any more whose great new products need a supply chain guru. And the supply chain expert is by no means an innovation guru being able to replace the innovator just like that. Being the crazy creative product guy requires a very different mindset compared to a beancounter. Which is why they complemented each other so perfectly. Steve Jobs was very likely not that good at counting beans. I wonder why so many assume Tim Cook is a good innovator because he was good at streamlining production. I'd rather assume the opposite: his mindset - kind of a bit pedantic with numbers - made him a great beancounter. But that mindset is not particularly suitable for an innovator.
Or in other words: no one can seriously dispute that Mr. Cook played his role in making Apple what it is today. But being a great bean counter does a priori make him a good innovator or good CEO. I take it as given that Tim Cook has earned his merits in keeping Apple together when the sun fell from the skies.
But in the case of product development (Mac division) and marketing decisions (Non-upgradeable, non-repairable products. Yuck) he was not that lucky. Just check out the plethora of "jumping ship?" or "leaving the platform?" threads here at MR.
Not too long ago one could rightfully call me an Apple die-hard. However, as of today I cannot recommend any Mac. Not a single one. Too glued, too soldered, way out of proportion expensive. I really like Mac OS, and I'd hate to have to switch to some other platform. Unfortunately it very much looks like it. A bit reminiscent of a frozen over hell.
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I have an amd radeon vii installed on a Windows workstation, but I would like to use it on my mac pro 5.1 and font have to buy another GPU like an rx 590 or something like that. is it advisable to install the amd Radeon VII with a dual sata to 8 pin cable added a dual mini 6 pin to 8 pin? thank you!
You already asked this & were advised against it, and also advised to go the Pixlas Mod route...
Jumping the ship threads don't mean anything. Forums and social media are places for people to post nonsense when they have nothing truly helpful to say and just want to trigger people for attention.
If you have to switch to another platform it means you weren't using the features of macOS that are impossible to replicate on another OS. Things long term users can't live without like Color Labels (doesn't exist on Windows), super easy color profile management (a mess on Windows), system wide support for HDR and wide color (a mess on Windows), Quick Look (doesn't exist on Windows), thumbnail previews for many common file types (Windows doesn't support thumbnails for many of them), so on and so forth.
As everyone knows I was the first person to install Windows 10 Bootcamp on a Mac Pro and give it the full test. It was a good release, but it has gone downhill since then. Microsoft are very talented at making everything a mess. Yesterday I tried to install the latest Fast Ring release on a PC and the installer refused to run because the release is incompatibly with some of my drivers and services. All my PC apps and hardware of them are very common and nothing strange.
Jobs left a philosophy at Apple and they have an in-house university to keep developing that philosophy. The philosophy starts with Jobs and Jef Raskin and goes in a straight line through Ive and Federighi (he was also at NeXT). If you watched the recent Apple Events you will already have been introduced to the next generation faces of Apple.
Supply chains need to change from time to time because of political situations. Now it is shifting from China and diversified into Vietnam, India and other places. Cook and his team are working extra time and overtime for the long-term vision.
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Scores:
51300 on Luxmark (with my Hackintosh 8700k / Radeon VII & Alphacool Eiswolf 240 GPX Pro AMD Radeon VII M01 - Black) - Mojave 10.14.5 beta 5
150804 Metal score Geekbench 4
152202 OpenCL score Geekbench 4
Fps: 76.0 Score 1915 Mini Fps:10.0 Max Fps: 207.7 Heaven Benchmark (1920x1080 Extreme 8xAA Windowed)
Fps: 80.4 Score 3363 Mini Fps:35.4 Max Fps: 177 Valley Benchmark (1920x1080 Ultra 8xAA Windowed)
51300 on Luxmark (with my Hackintosh 8700k / Radeon VII & Alphacool Eiswolf 240 GPX Pro AMD Radeon VII M01 - Black) - Mojave 10.14.5 beta 5
150804 Metal score Geekbench 4
152202 OpenCL score Geekbench 4
Fps: 76.0 Score 1915 Mini Fps:10.0 Max Fps: 207.7 Heaven Benchmark (1920x1080 Extreme 8xAA Windowed)
Fps: 80.4 Score 3363 Mini Fps:35.4 Max Fps: 177 Valley Benchmark (1920x1080 Ultra 8xAA Windowed)
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Unless your CPU is weak you should be getting better scores. The iMac Pro beats your system.
http://barefeats.com/imacpro_vs_pt5.html
BruceX my Mac Pro 5.1 with 2x6core 2.93 ghz and Mojave 10.14.4. I got 32 sec on my AMD7970
I purchased the Asus Vega 64 8 gig (External Power supply) and got 15sec
Very happy!
Vega 7 was released so returned the 64 and bought the 7 now crossing my fingers and hoping it will improve Bruce X again and all the Panasonic h264 422 footage I have to transcode in FCPX when 10.14.5 comes ( when will it appear!!! ) any thoughts?
For FCPX on cMP matter, better move to this thread now.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mojave-on-mp5-1-fcpx-with-amd-gpu.2180541/
If possible, please upload a short video (5-10 seconds is enough), and then I can tell you if that's possible to direct edit the RAW video without transcoding in FCPX on cMP.
This was already covered earlier in this thread. VII geekbench results are low, luxmark results are high. Not that those are reliable benchmarks.
Yes that’s why I’m asking. Wondering if the new beta versions of OS are showing improvements on Radeon and the Mac Pro 5.1. After all that’s the title of the thread.
Well thats a bore. Not sure if I should take it back for a vega 64 and give up a slot again.
I take Barefeat 's benchmarks : https://barefeats.com/imac-2019-580x-gpu-vs-vega-48.html
With my Radeon VII:
Gfxbench Metal: 15628,1 Frames / 243,05 Fps with The 1440p Aztec Ruins (High Tier)
Geekbench Compute : Metal score: 154042
OpenCl score: 156823
Luxmark OpenCL: with The Hotel Scene (Result: 7284), with The Luxball Scene (Result: 50720)
With my Radeon VII:
Gfxbench Metal: 15628,1 Frames / 243,05 Fps with The 1440p Aztec Ruins (High Tier)
Geekbench Compute : Metal score: 154042
OpenCl score: 156823
Luxmark OpenCL: with The Hotel Scene (Result: 7284), with The Luxball Scene (Result: 50720)
Something screwed about Geekbench GPU tests with Radeons in macOS. The results are much lower than on Windows and they don’t scale as expected between low, mid and high end Radeons.
But Luxmark shows the expected results and about the same results on both operating systems.
Is it because Geekbench expects and is optimized for OpenCL 2?